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3. Openings plus Time in Rank for O-1 thru O-3, same thing plus performance, advanced degrees, skills increasingly for O-4 and up. Definitely not for doing something heroic. I haven't heard of an O getting a promotion for heroism in the war on terror. I have heard of some NCO's at the Academy who got to E-5 on battlefield promotions however.

I can only speculate for the other services but Surface and Sub normally get promoted fastest in Navy. SEALs the slowest. I've heard AF treats non-flyers like 2/c citizens but ask Pima. I don't know about speed of advance but MC infantry and probably Army too b/c a Ranger tab in the Army automatically puts you on the top.
 
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I am the parent of a student who would like to attend the AFA. I am not in the military but I am an Air Force Brat. Dad served 20 years.

My son had this same fear about a family. My response to him is that the his service experience would be what he made of it. If he wanted to have close family relationships, being in the military wouldn't stop him from doing that. Going through an experience like the military, can bring a family closer together in just depends on the reaction you have towards it. When he is ready to have children, he will be able to give them incredible learning experiences. He can take them to places I could only dream of taking our kids in the states or abroad.

Whatever you choose to do in life, some of the choices you will make will put you miles from your family. You might live year by year not knowing where you will have to move to keep your job. (An experience close friends are going through right now.) You might have to rely on your spouse more than other times to help with the kids. Relationships have problems with or without the military.

Life is what you make of it, so make it great! If you want a close family, you can have it wherever you go, you just have to make it happen. If you want your kids to experience life instead of reading about in a book, take them with you (if possible). If you want a strong relationship with your spouse, do all that you can to make it as strong as possible even when you are away. Your life is designed by you. Make it what you want it to be.


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You've gotten some great responses here. Pima always hits the nail on the head (except when she bashes the Army life :yllol:). I am married to a retired Army officer. I met him when we were in college. He was ROTC and I didn't realize it at the time. My Dad was Army enlisted when I was little and got out because my Mom didn't like the lifestyle. He went back into the Reserves when I was in high school and stayed to retirement. So I knew a little about bit about the Army. I always swore I would NEVER marry a man in the Army. Ooops! But I went in with my eyes wide open and a bug in my ear from Dad that if the Army wanted him to have a wife, they'd have issued him one with the duffle bag. I don't regret any of it! It wasn't always fun and there were times I was unhappy. But I learned something and grew from each of the bad times. I've seen plenty of civilians go through bad times too. That's life. I've learned that you play the cards you are dealt and make the best of it. :thumb:

As for worrying about your spouse's career, that is not limited to folks in the military. It is a given these days for any couple. Our son is about to graduate from college. His girl friend attends a college about an hour away from his school. She is also graduating. That means they are both embarking on some serious job searching. They're not ready to commit to marriage. So what are the odds that they'll both find jobs near to each other? DS has already had to reconsider his plans for entering the Peace Corps because of the relationship.

As you've probably gathered, DS is not the reason for my screen name. That's our DD. The little traitor is now in the Navy reserve. :eek: What Pima said about one day joking about the sister service and the next praising and supporting them is very true. At one point in our Army career, we moved 4 times in 5 years. In the midst of that, we made the decision to homeschool. It gave the kids continuity for their studies. But they were always involved in Boy and Girl Scouts (or Girl Guides when we lived in Canada for 2 years.) There were always organizations they joined. DS learned curling while we were in Canada, a sport he continues to enjoy and that he was able to participate in here in Belgium. DD danced for years. How many kids would whine "Do I have to go to Paris again when Grandma comes to visit?" :shake: Don't ask them to list the number of countries they have visited! There aren't many in Europe they've missed. They call themselves spoiled!

My husband's career was never on the fast track. Sometimes I thought he spent too much time looking after his soldiers and he was known to stand up to superior officers in defense of his soldiers. I think he made the better choice. But it meant he was never going to advance beyond Lt. Col. So be it. We had some really fun assignments. In the end, we were able to stay in one place for the kids to finish high school where they started. The Army let DH extend a year for DS to finish. Then he chose to retire and take a civilian job here so DD could also finish. At one point they even asked him to come back onto Active Duty. But he decided it wasn't fun any more, so he turned that offer down.

Yes, there are stresses and deployments. Yes, we moved a lot. But we also got a lot out of the experience. My career aspirations went on hold. But it worked out for the best because I finally realized what I really want to do as a profession and have started back to school. Maybe it will soon be his turn to follow me around now. I know folks in their mid-40s sound old to you, but we're easily young enough to start again - and that retirement pay makes I nice cushion. :thumb:

Oh, on promotions, through O-3 they are pretty much automatic by time in grade. Then you go before promotion boards based your year group. They look at schooling - both military and civilian, evaluations, jobs, assignments, etc. when choosing who to promote. You will be reviewed multiple times for promotion. My husband was always selected within the zone - at the average time. What didn't happen was selection for on site schools and a combat arms battalion command. It actually freed him up to take some fun assignments. The retirement pay is a bit less (OK, it does add up to a lot over time), but we live quite comfortably and he had a job he loved.

Best of luck as you make your choices!
 
Chock,

This might be a shocker to you, but I believe the most successful officers at the higher ranks, are MARRIED! The reason why this occurs is due to the fact that the home is their grounding place.

KP,

You made me laugh. I can't tell you how many times the kids said, do we have to go to Portage Glacier again or Really, I have been to the Smithsonian so many times I could be the tour guide!

Now, that they are older, I laugh at them when they say to me, do you realize most of my friends don't know thar Mt McKinley is really Denali? Or how they love it when they tell people that they were born in England, and the normal response is "which state in New England?" Only for them to turn and say "NO, I meant England, the country". Of course, they also hated us when they were doing college apps, and had to state they were born overseas, which automatically throw them into the International pile! I can't tell you how many hours I have spent by their side searching the bowels of the school ap to state they are US citizens...UGGGHHH!
 
Thank you for the help :smile: Thread is bookmarked. I feel better now...:smile:
 
On the lighter side. . .
Our son (USMA class of 2014) mentioned to a friend's dad, a retired career officer, that he currently had a girl friend. With a stern, straight face the gentleman told him in jest, "If the Army wanted you to have a girl friend, they'd issue you one!"
 
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