USACC Changes

armydaughter said:
If component decisions are moving toward Aug/Sept, will cadets do their preference sheets at the end of the MSIII school year?
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Yes, I looked back and found this in the notes. Everything finished before going to CLC, that way the only thing left to add in are the standardized tests which will be during week 1 of CLC.

As far as attrition rate, I think that refers to those that leave before commissioning. I don't know much about the CBEF, that came around after I was in the scholarship process.

I agree with most of the other comments as well. No matter what you use to determine an OML, an OML is racking and stacking.

I like some of the changes, including a greater focus on developing critical thinkers in a new way other than as a squad leader, but I'll wait to see the new curriculum and the entire program overhaul to take effect before I start drinking the Kool aid.
 
Thanks for posting! great info. I will pass along to DS (MS2) for his info (if he does not already have it, and just hasn't mentioned.)
One does wonder how people get out of college, let alone promoted to Major, without some basic reading/writing skills. And half the Majors not being selected for advancement training? That is not anticipating a little 'trimming' or 'fine tuning.'
 
JMS said:
And half the Majors not being selected for advancement training? That is not anticipating a little 'trimming' or 'fine tuning.'
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Only 50% of majors were selected for the resident ILE course, but the others do distance education ILE.
 
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Im a mom of one son who is a mechanical engineer major & one son who is a public policy/applied economics analytics major.


It is odd to think that my Mech E major son has more value than my son who is a public policy/applied economics analytics major. My Mech E major got a 36 on the math ACT (so has math skills for sure) but scored a bit lower in reading and english. It is doubtful than any specific lessons he learns in an engineering class will apply itself as a newly minted ensign in the fleet or a 2nd Lt in the corps.

My public policy/applied economics analytics major who got a 35 or 36 on every section of the ACT but chose to be a public policy/applied economics analytics major is a far far better reader, writer, rapid problem solver, critical thinker. But he would automatically get 3-4% points taken off of his 'value' (OML).

It makes little common sense to me.
 
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Bull,
thanks so much for posting this information. It was so helpful to have a foundation of information to start from (though I had to look up every other word) without people like you (and others.... you know who you are....) us further back on the path would not have the map to follow. Thanks a bunch!

Vista123
 
Vista123 said:
Bull,
thanks so much for posting this information. It was so helpful to have a foundation of information to start from (though I had to look up every other word) without people like you (and others.... you know who you are....) us further back on the path would not have the map to follow. Thanks a bunch!

Vista123
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A big part of the emphasis on technical majors, in my limited experience, is that they are, in general, as a whole, and usually, more difficult than Humanities and other non-technical majors. Referring to the "Commitment vs. Intelligence" comment, simply because most technical majors are more difficult and require more classes, the resulting extra effort required is likely seen as the reason for caring about majors. I have plenty of friends that have 3.5+'s that share my Political Science major. I have friends who are engineers that I know who are much, much smarter than I, and spend FAR more time studying, doing homework, and in class, and their GPA is lower, sometimes significantly so. An engineering major absolutely requires more commitment than History or English (and I love my humanities majors, I despise math, but I know this to be true). Intelligence is entirely subjective, but I would feel its safer than other methods to assume someone who graduates as an engineer to be smarter than someone who graduates with a BA, all other things equal.
 
This is all great information that I wish I had when I was a one and two... I am an MS4 right now and sweating bullets on if I will make AD or not.
 
pkarmy6 said:
They also don't consider adsos before they decide on ad or rd this year right?
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The special degree program used last year sets aside a limited number of slots in certain branches for Cadets with certain degrees. If you mean the old urban legend of "ADSO for Chem, nobody wants it so you'll get active duty," no. This is a myth. ADSOing for Chem Corps is not going to give you an active duty slot just because Chem is unpopular.
 
mbitr said:
The special degree program used last year sets aside a limited number of slots in certain branches for Cadets with certain degrees. If you mean the old urban legend of "ADSO for Chem, nobody wants it so you'll get active duty," no. This is a myth. ADSOing for Chem Corps is not going to give you an active duty slot just because Chem is unpopular.
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Not as much of a myth anymore. With the new Special Branch Program a cadet can ADSO for Chem, have the right major, a min. 2.75 GPA, and if they are below the AD Cutoff they will be bumped up to AD. So in a way, yes they can now ADSO for AD Chem Corps.
 
Yes. For Cadets in a limited number of degree programs. But the old rumor of "If you ask for Chem you'll make active duty because nobody wants Chem" is very much a myth.
 
mbitr said:
Yes. For Cadets in a limited number of degree programs. But the old rumor of "If you ask for Chem you'll make active duty because nobody wants Chem" is very much a myth.
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Your right, but Chem is one of those limited Branch/Degree programs.

But for everyone else, a total myth.
 
If there's a Service Academy Forum award for seriously helpful and general awesomeness, I nominate -Bull-

I have read through the initial posts in this thread, I think four times now. Extremely helpful to have this kind of info.

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Thanks for the kind words all, I'm definitely nothing special. I'm just a conduit of the news.

I've always found it helps to share as much information (that isn't restricted) with as many as people as possible. Especially when there are not many interpretations and filtering between the source (CG) and the destination (cadets). It eliminates the telephone game filtering down the channels and curbs (some) speculation.

Hopefully this helps everyone that had questions on these subjects and saves some speculating bandwidth. Who knows, it could all change again next week.
 
payit +1

-Bull- said:
I've always found it helps to share as much information (that isn't restricted) with as many as people as possible.
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Bull, feel free to pm me any of that restricted information. :biggrin: Mum's the word.
 
cb7893 said:
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Bull, feel free to pm me any of that restricted information. :biggrin: Mum's the word.
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Absolutely! Just know, something happened to the last two guy's I was passing info to. One turned into a girl and is currently residing in the Ft. Leavenworth area, while the other got tired of American life and decided to move to Russia (I guess he was secretly friends with Putin, but I don't know for sure). Anywho, I've got a free one year guest pass to use my security clearance that I can share with anyone, so I'll just PM you the details.


*NSA/CIA disclaimer- The above is clearly sarcasm.
 
What happens if you are an MS4 this year, who has completed LDAC, but is an engineer major who graduates as an MS5?
 
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