USAFA Waiting Thread C/O 2027

[n8erger05]

Still waiting here our sons friend from the same school received an appointment for usafa but he is still undecided.it was a hit to our son the are using the same nomination source but no twe yet so the other kid is holding out for usna. He did receive a three year rotc scholarship today so we are moving in the right direction

Hoping the best for your son...
What state and district is this coming from?

 

[Broncomom07]

Tigers2023- I would seem to disagree with that. My application file was just reviewed by the board mid last week, only 6 days ago! I bet many people are in the same boat, not hearing because their file has not even been reviewed.

RiceCube- Im in the same boat as you! There has been very minimum input from people in PA. When I spoke to admissions at a prior time, the lady said that "they haven't made it to PA yet." This was just a few weeks ago. Hearing that, it really does seem like most of the appointments go out by state. Especially seeing multiple of each state on the appointment list pretty much at the same date. Example TX.

I really do believe that there is another appointment push because of the delay of application reviews and the seemingly lack of input from many of the Northeastern States.

I think this might be likely also. My DD ALO said that of the 10 or so candidates he works with none have yet received an appointment so it sounds like area related but who knows. We are in Oklahoma.

 

[1967chevy]

Tigers2023- I would seem to disagree with that. My application file was just reviewed by the board mid last week, only 6 days ago! I bet many people are in the same boat, not hearing because their file has not even been reviewed.

RiceCube- Im in the same boat as you! There has been very minimum input from people in PA. When I spoke to admissions at a prior time, the lady said that "they haven't made it to PA yet." This was just a few weeks ago. Hearing that, it really does seem like most of the appointments go out by state. Especially seeing multiple of each state on the appointment list pretty much at the same date. Example TX.

I really do believe that there is another appointment push because of the delay of application reviews and the seemingly lack of input from many of the Northeastern States.

How did you find out when your file was reviewed?

 

[n8erger05]

How did you find out when your file was reviewed?

I spoke to a member of admissions about uploading supporting documents to better my chances. She said that once your file is reviewed, nothing turned in after is looked at for admission decisions. I asked if mine was yet reviewed, and she told me that it was just finally reviewed on 03/21/23. Which is just one day after the most recently reported appointments.

 

[Tigers2023]

Tigers2023- I would seem to disagree with that. My application file was just reviewed by the board mid last week, only 6 days ago! I bet many people are in the same boat, not hearing because their file has not even been reviewed.

RiceCube- Im in the same boat as you! There has been very minimum input from people in PA. When I spoke to admissions at a prior time, the lady said that "they haven't made it to PA yet." This was just a few weeks ago. Hearing that, it really does seem like most of the appointments go out by state. Especially seeing multiple of each state on the appointment list pretty much at the same date. Example TX.

I really do believe that there is another appointment push because of the delay of application reviews and the seemingly lack of input from many of the Northeastern States.

This could be true, but in our case, our ALO has had appointments already. At least one that we know of for sure. I’m not sure if it’s the same MOC, but even if that’s the case, my son has a Pres nomination also.
It will happen or not, but fortunately he has lots of great options. Hoping for the best, preparing for all possibilities!

 

[franknd]

The last 3 years have each seen about 190 offers of appointment reported on this forum. Since there are only 115 reported for this year, it would seem likely that there are a significant number of offers still be be reported.

Stay positive, but keep your contingency plans in place.

Right, and breaking it down even further, to direct appointments from HS, I count 88 so far. (IIRC, there were two that left that column blank, and I guessed 1 was HS.) On the last three appointment lists, there were 151, 162, and 162 appointments direct from HS. So by that measure, there are anywhere from 40-45% of direct appointments from HS still to go.

What I am curious about, though, is why there seems to be a lot of thought that this is tied to geography. It's been my general understanding that it's more to do with application strength. Generally, the tippy top candidates -- whom USAFA wants and believes it will be in competition for -- get offered first. And so on, which leaves the applicants who are right on the line of admissibility until the end to backfill open slots, etc., including in rare situations converting some Prep/Falcon offers to direct appointments. That's been my general understanding, but I'm certainly open to learning differently.

 

[Enzo2027]

Hoping the best for your son...
What state and district is this coming from?

Fl district 7

 

[Bamagirl33]

Right, and breaking it down even further, to direct appointments from HS, I count 88 so far. (IIRC, there were two that left that column blank, and I guessed 1 was HS.) On the last three appointment lists, there were 151, 162, and 162 appointments direct from HS. So by that measure, there are anywhere from 40-45% of direct appointments from HS still to go.

What I am curious about, though, is why there seems to be a lot of thought that this is tied to geography. It's been my general understanding that it's more to do with application strength. Generally, the tippy top candidates -- whom USAFA wants and believes it will be in competition for -- get offered first. And so on, which leaves the applicants who are right on the line of admissibility until the end to backfill open slots, etc., including in rare situations converting some Prep/Falcon offers to direct appointments. That's been my general understanding, but I'm certainly open to learning differently.

I hope you’re right!

 

[Jetbill]

Right, and breaking it down even further, to direct appointments from HS, I count 88 so far. (IIRC, there were two that left that column blank, and I guessed 1 was HS.) On the last three appointment lists, there were 151, 162, and 162 appointments direct from HS. So by that measure, there are anywhere from 40-45% of direct appointments from HS still to go.

What I am curious about, though, is why there seems to be a lot of thought that this is tied to geography. It's been my general understanding that it's more to do with application strength. Generally, the tippy top candidates -- whom USAFA wants and believes it will be in competition for -- get offered first. And so on, which leaves the applicants who are right on the line of admissibility until the end to backfill open slots, etc., including in rare situations converting some Prep/Falcon offers to direct appointments. That's been my general understanding, but I'm certainly open to learning differently.

By far, the largest # of appointments are charged to US Representatives. 5 for each Rep at each Academy at any given time. (Freshman-Seniors). So it follows that a states population is the main determining factor effecting how many cadets it sends to SAs. TX, where we live has 38 Representatives. OH has 15, PA has 17.
Obviously ea state has 2 senators, ensuring as many as 250 cadets at ea Academy, very evenly spread geographically.
Other factors that may, or may not influence geographical spread, include states that more veterans reside in, leading to Presidential Appointments (100 I believe, to ea Academy). It follows, perhaps, that a state like TX may have more veterans whose children seek appointments, than a state like Wyoming, that just has a lower population. Or any state that simply has a lower per capita veteran population, might be very slightly less represented. There are a few other appointment sources involved, that might not be geograpically driven necessarily, but those #s are relatively small. So appointments are indeed, very much dispersed geographically. It's based on population. That way Academy appointments are a mostly fair representation of the entire country. End result not exactly matching the Electoral College, but fairly close.

 

[franknd]

By far, the largest # of appointments are charged to US Representatives. 5 for each Rep at each Academy at any given time. (Freshman-Seniors). So it follows that a states population is the main determining factor effecting how many cadets it sends to SAs. TX, where we live has 38 Representatives. OH has 15, PA has 17.
Obviously ea state has 2 senators, ensuring as many as 250 cadets at ea Academy, very evenly spread geographically.
Other factors that may, or may not influence geographical spread, include states that more veterans reside in, leading to Presidential Appointments (100 I believe, to ea Academy). It follows, perhaps, that a state like TX may have more veterans whose children seek appointments, than a state like Wyoming, that just has a lower population. Or any state that simply has a lower per capita veteran population, might be very slightly less represented. There are a few other appointment sources involved, that might not be geograpically driven necessarily, but those #s are relatively small. So appointments are indeed, very much dispersed geographically. It's based on population. That way Academy appointments are a mostly fair representation of the entire country. End result not exactly matching the Electoral College, but fairly close.

Right, I probably didn't explain my comment well enough. I was referring to the idea that some commenters seem to have that appointments followed some sort of geographic order.

 

[Luke Gs Dad]

DS was an EA for the USCGA appointment granted and still waiting for the USAF. As this is his 1st choice.
Hard to understand the process when he already was appointed in November.

 

[Avidreader]

Any Virginia folks hear anything? Lots of TX & CA, very few from VA

 

[Jetbill]

Any Virginia folks hear anything? Lots of TX & CA, very few from VA

This is likely because more appointments come out of CA and TX, based on # of congressional districts. (Compare electoral college vote #s for rough idea).
Wishing you the best. Seems there are plenty more to come!

 

[franknd]

DS was an EA for the USCGA appointment granted and still waiting for the USAF. As this is his 1st choice.
Hard to understand the process when he already was appointed in November.

Keep in mind that AFA (and other SAs) don't have EA. So that forces some sort of decision by the CGA -- yes, no, maybe -- much earlier in the process for EA applicants. Also, each SA has a different application pool, and CGA's is doubly different since nominations aren't a factor, different interview, different physical fitness test, etc.

 

[99Gold]

Keep in mind that AFA (and other SAs) don't have EA. So that forces some sort of decision by the CGA -- yes, no, maybe -- much earlier in the process for EA applicants. Also, each SA has a different application pool, and CGA's is doubly different since nominations aren't a factor, different interview, different physical fitness test, etc.

All of this and the fact that nomination slates aren't due until Jan 31st makes it a completely different timeline. USAFA can't even begin to resolve slates and offer those appointments until the slates are submitted and applications from those candidates are complete. USCGA has a lot more freedom to decide who they get to appoint and when.

 

[Luke Gs Dad]

All of this and the fact that nomination slates aren't due until Jan 31st makes it a completely different timeline. USAFA can't even begin to resolve slates and offer those appointments until the slates are submitted and applications from those candidates are complete. USCGA has a lot more freedom to decide who they get to appoint and when.

Keep in mind that AFA (and other SAs) don't have EA. So that forces some sort of decision by the CGA -- yes, no, maybe -- much earlier in the process for EA applicants. Also, each SA has a different application pool, and CGA's is doubly different since nominations aren't a factor, different interview, different physical fitness test, etc.

This makes sense.
Thanks.

 

[Broncomom07]

Just a curiosity that someone may know. If a candidate is Legacy does the selection board know that info and does it have an impact?

 

[Tigers2023]

Just a curiosity that someone may know. If a candidate is Legacy does the selection board know that info and does it have an impact?

They know if you selected the block that asked if one of your parents attended the academy.

I’m sure it’s a positive impact, not sure how much, but it certainly won’t hurt!

 

[MDRDV]

They know if you selected the block that asked if one of your parents attended the academy.

I’m sure it’s a positive impact, not sure how much, but it certainly won’t hurt!

Agreed. I'll also point out that the application asks about family members that served. Having knowledge of military life style and likely accompanied military propensity is a positive. Given two candidates that are equivalent in the scoring system, one with no military background, the other with, which would you appoint?

 

[usafacan2023]

I just spoke with admissions today and my file has not been reviewed yet. Is this a bad sign?