USAFA Waiting Thread C/O 2027

kenberland said:
TWE for my DS. Attached if you're interested.

3.9 GPA unweighted; Nom from CA 12. 1460 SAT; 5 on AP History and Comp & Lang. All AP Senior courses.
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If you are reapplying, I would consider retaking the SATs and reaching for a score in the 1500s. USAFA superscores. You only need to do better in one category.
What you have posted is pretty much an expected baseline. 3.9 GPA, many APs, 1400s SAT. Upping your SAT score to a more elite range is one way to be more competitive if you are reapplying.
 
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It's impossible to know without direct, insider experience, but I wonder if there is a logic to the waves of notifications? Geographical? Alphabetical? Appointed, followed by prep school appointments, followed by waitlists, followed by TWE? I know that last one isn't possible, but I am curious about the inner workings of all of the academies in this regard.
 
Osprey123 said:
If you are reapplying, I would consider retaking the SATs and reaching for a score in the 1500s. USAFA superscores. You only need to do better in one category.
What you have posted is pretty much an expected baseline. 3.9 GPA, many APs, 1400s SAT. Upping your SAT score to a more elite range is one way to be more competitive if you are reapplying.
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You may be right and probably know more than I, but I'd guess academics might not have been the impediment in this case. The last reported median SAT for an enrolled class was low 1300s. (See P. 16, attached.) Even if you take away Prep School appointees, I'd guess the median isn't much higher than 1400. There is always (well, almost always) room for improvement, but it probably pays to focus efforts on where they are most needed in any given case, right?

I guess my overarching thought is that academics aren't always the holdup or cause of non-appointment, are they?

 
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franknd said:
You may be right and probably know more than I, but I'd guess academics might not have been the impediment in this case. The last reported median SAT for an enrolled class was low 1300s. (See P. 16, attached.) Even if you take away Prep School appointees, I'd guess the median isn't much higher than 1400. There is always (well, almost always) room for improvement, but it probably pays to focus efforts on where they are most needed in any given case, right?

I guess my overarching thought is that academics aren't always the holdup or cause of non-appointment, are they?

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It is one simple test that would take 4 hours of time to retake and add to that a dozen hours of prep that gets you to a level that actually stands out. After polishing your academic credentials if you then focused on your "weak" spots, your overall application (adding in the favorable effort of a reapplication) may turn the tide.

It makes no sense to me that there is an idea that 1400 is good enough. Those 1300s are probably the candidates that are superpowered elsewhere. The nationally ranked athletes etc. (I am not saying that our D1 athletes can't be tippy top students) Staying with a 1400 may have worked for you this time and you may have an appointment but it's easier IMHO to spend that 16 hours to have that pillar stand out than go become a national ranked athlete.
 
Pattonsghost said:
I agree with this. Something hiding in the data is distorting the number here
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There has to be something else that is very special about that candidate pulling down the average. Nationally ranked in something. Fluent in a strategic language. etc... For NARP's (non-athletic, regular people - non-athletic only meaning not D1 athlete), I would expect a selective college level SAT score. That worked for us. YMMV. I bet the NARP SAT/ACT average is very high. I'd guess 1480-1510.
 
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