Used mj twice.. can I still get into usna?

No one in admissions is expecting any candidate to be perfect, but they can and should expect people to be honest. "Always try to be more honest than the day before."
 
An underage Mid in my Mid's company was detained at gate one for intoxication. During the board hearing he stated that it was a first time deal and it would never happen again. They then showed him a video that he had posted of him intoxicated and drinking in high school. Answer truthfully and stay off social media.
 
WP22 said:
Gupus27654 said:
I've heard on the medical part they ask you "have you ever..." and then so on. So that's what I'm referring to
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Just say no..... Don't let it affect your future
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WRONG, WRONG, WRONG ......the coverup is often worse than the offense.
I don't know whether MJ experimentation is even an issue anymore, but lying is.
Testing won't get you caught 2 years later, but everyone eventually goes through a security clearance process,
and they do go back to your home town and ask the question of friends, etc.

Bottom line --tell the truth, and deal with the issue.
 
I know it seems like a trivial thing, but trust me; especially in the military, it's a BIG thing. Get caught on a random drug test AFTER you're in service and you face all sorts of punishments up to and including court martial. I have sat as a member of several drug test failures court martials...it's NOT pretty.

+1 --Navy's drug policy is written in Sailor's blood. Zero tolerance/Random tests and mandatory seperations were initiated largely in response to a Flight Deck incident in late 70s/early 80's . Always keep in mind that they toys we get to play with after graduation, be it ships, sub, aircraft or just a single rifle, can be dangerous, and its not just your life at stake. I know society is more accepting of MJ use than in my time (its still a federal offense, no matter where you are!), but I can't imagine the Navy accepting it.
 
Old Navy BGO said:
I know it seems like a trivial thing, but trust me; especially in the military, it's a BIG thing. Get caught on a random drug test AFTER you're in service and you face all sorts of punishments up to and including court martial. I have sat as a member of several drug test failures court martials...it's NOT pretty.

+1 --Navy's drug policy is written in Sailor's blood. Zero tolerance/Random tests and mandatory seperations were initiated largely in response to a Flight Deck incident in late 70s/early 80's . Always keep in mind that they toys we get to play with after graduation, be it ships, sub, aircraft or just a single rifle, can be dangerous, and its not just your life at stake. I know society is more accepting of MJ use than in my time (its still a federal offense, no matter where you are!), but I can't imagine the Navy accepting it.
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So you think they'd reject me?
 
*Sigh*

Probably not, so long as you were truthful about it and explained that you would not partake again.

My DS admitted one time use and passed DoDMERB without needing any remedial ( except for an orthodontic statement from the DDS.)
 
WonderGirl1965 said:
I think the OP should be commended for even asking the question! Bless his heart, he really wants to put his best foot forward. Most wouldn't have had the nerve to even ask. The only word I can think of to describe him, based on the post, is brave. Good for you Gupus.... you're on the way to great things!
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Just saw this response. And thank you!! I'm doing everything is can to make my dream come true. Stuff like this really boosts my confidence. Thanks so much
 
Gupus27654 said:
FMHS-79 said:
The DoDMERB Report of Medical History (DD Form 2492) does indeed have questions regarding prior use of Amphetamines, Barbiturates, Cocaine, Narcotic Drugs, Marijuana, Alcohol, Chemical Inhalants, and Hallucinogens. Marking any of these as "Yes" will require an explanation.

The USAFA also requires completion of the Drug and Alcohol Abuse Certificate (AF Form 2030).

Sorry, I can't tell you how your prior use will impact your application to the USNA or another SA.
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Does marking "yes" mean that you automatically require a waiver to be considered?
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Not for USMA at least. I received an appointment and I checked yes on DODMERB. Same with USAFA. I was offered an appointment even with the Form 2030. No need to worry about prior use. They're primarily making sure you're not an addict etc.
 
rwjohnson416 said:
Gupus27654 said:
FMHS-79 said:
The DoDMERB Report of Medical History (DD Form 2492) does indeed have questions regarding prior use of Amphetamines, Barbiturates, Cocaine, Narcotic Drugs, Marijuana, Alcohol, Chemical Inhalants, and Hallucinogens. Marking any of these as "Yes" will require an explanation.

The USAFA also requires completion of the Drug and Alcohol Abuse Certificate (AF Form 2030).

Sorry, I can't tell you how your prior use will impact your application to the USNA or another SA.
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Does marking "yes" mean that you automatically require a waiver to be considered?
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Not for USMA at least. I received an appointment and I checked yes on DODMERB. Same with USAFA. I was offered an appointment even with the Form 2030. No need to worry about prior use. They're primarily making sure you're not an addict etc.
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Would you mind pming me? I want to get some more information. Thanks so much
 
Well it's not 3, its like 10 or more daily just to function. They shut down if they don't have it in their system.
 
Trackgirl1999 said:
How do you illegally use an over the counter drug--take 3 Alleve instead of 2? :scratch:
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Or, you use an OTC drug that warns you about drowsiness and operating machinery - then you drive. Using OTC drugs as directed or recommended, is the key.
 
I really wish people would stop asking this question... be honest always, stop worrying so much. Plenty of my classmates have experimented with marijuana and they are fine midshipman. Never lie, but be truthful in your intent to never do it again because they drug test randomly.
 
WP22 said:
Gupus27654 said:
I've heard on the medical part they ask you "have you ever..." and then so on. So that's what I'm referring to
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Just say no..... Don't let it affect your future
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So WP22.... You are about to enter one of the most prestigious schools - and one with a very strict Honor Code (or Concept) which explicitly states that "A Midshipman (or Cadet) will not Lie, Cheat or Steal, or Tolerate those who do" on the basis of a LIE?

Doesn't this strike you as inconsistent? I would like to hope you are being facetious but I am afraid you are not!

GOPUS 27654:
We all have to live with the decisions we make - but Integrity requires that we take accountability for our actions. This is a GREAT topic for one of your essays - and the lessons learned from this are significant. But lying about it should not be one of the lessons learned.
 
My DS asked me a similar question when he was filling out his application. He said "well I have had a sip of beer before here at home with you and Mom - so I guess the answer is yes - right?"
I just responded with "you just answered your own question". He was later asked in his DoDMERB physical what the "yes" was all about. The doctor said "so all you did was have a few sips of beer at home with your folks?" (my DS said the doctor seemed truly shocked that someone would say "yes" to "using alcohol" if all they did was try a few sips of beer). My DS responded with "yes, but technically that means that I have "used alcohol", so the answer is yes". The doctor told him, "okay, I'm going to note to that effect that in my exam paperwork, so it doesn't come up again".

Always answer with the truth, because it's way too hard to remember what you lied about later!

Here's another pearl for you: Honor is doing the right thing and making the right choices, even though you're absolutely sure that no one is looking.
 
I know this is something a lot of people have already addressed. But is there a limit to how much is acceptable to past marijuana use? Well no =t really acceptable, but rather tolerable and forgiving.
 
No one here can answer that. It's an individualized determination by the Character Board. Some of things they likely consider . . . how many times someone used; age at time of use; whether there were other bad acts at the same time (e.g,, crime, vandalism, etc.); whether the person returned to use after some sort of penalty (recidivism); whether the person "learned" or matured after initial use(s); whether there is a history of other substance abuse (alcohol, "spice," other illegal drugs or illicit use of Rx drugs); and on and on.

USNA (and the US military) has a zero tolerance policy for drugs, including MJ, regardless of what civilian law allows. USNA obviously is concerned about whether someone who has used in the past can "control" him/herself going forward and stop using. Thus, a single experiment at age 15 probably won't be an issue. Conversely, the more someone has used in the past, and if there is evidence to suggest that the person has continued to use over time -- especially if it occurs after some sort of "punishment" -- the more difficult the issue will be to overcome.

I would encourage folks to be honest in describing past usage. The Character Board has seen a lot over the years and has a pretty good sense of the types of actions that don't end up being a problem once the person gets to USNA and the types of things that lead to problems. At the end of the day, if someone can't break free of MJ or any other drug permanently, failure at USNA or in the Fleet is merely a matter of time.
 
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