USMA Admissions Officer - AMA!

No. The NWL is for those with nominations who did not win their slate.

Stealth_81
I thought it was more along the lines of everyone who is 3Q with a nom goes on the list, slate winners are determined, then the next 150 on the list based on WCS must be offered appointment by law, then Admissions rounds out the class. Guessing there is some tweaking in there for situations where candidates have presidential and congressional noms. Guessing it’s up to Admissions as to how they charge the appointments while complying with the regs.
 
Does everyone who is on NWL get notified? What about those who have been notified that a waiver has been requested?
Don’t think you can be in the NWL without being fully qualified, so if you are awaiting a waiver decision, you would not be on the NWL.
 
I thought it was more along the lines of everyone who is 3Q with a nom goes on the list, slate winners are determined, then the next 150 on the list based on WCS must be offered appointment by law, then Admissions rounds out the class. Guessing there is some tweaking in there for situations where candidates have presidential and congressional noms. Guessing it’s up to Admissions as to how they charge the appointments while complying with the regs.
That was my understanding as well, I just want to make sure I am not misinformed.
 
Don’t think you can be in the NWL without being fully qualified, so if you are awaiting a waiver decision, you would not be on the NWL.
But if you get a waiver, would you then be placed on the NWL? The math seems to work against those waiting for waiver decisions at this point. Why grant a waiver if you can fill the class with the existing NWL?
 
I thought it was more along the lines of everyone who is 3Q with a nom goes on the list, slate winners are determined, then the next 150 on the list based on WCS must be offered appointment by law, then Admissions rounds out the class. Guessing there is some tweaking in there for situations where candidates have presidential and congressional noms. Guessing it’s up to Admissions as to how they charge the appointments while complying with the regs.
As far as I can reason, it really doesn't matter if all 3Q with nom go on the NWL and slate winners come off as appointments are issued, or if all 3Q with nom go on the NWL after slate winners are first chosen. It's all the same in the end and either works as a mental model. The actual mechanics seem uninteresting to me. JMHO
 
As far as I can reason, it really doesn't matter if all 3Q with nom go on the NWL and slate winners come off as appointments are issued, or if all 3Q with nom go on the NWL after slate winners are first chosen. It's all the same in the end and either works as a mental model. The actual mechanics seem uninteresting to me. JMHO
How does one know if they are on the NWL following the loss of thier slate?
 
How does one know if they are on the NWL following the loss of thier slate?
If they are 3Q with a nom then they are on the NWL by definition. There is no notification needed, since it's by definition.
 
But if you get a waiver, would you then be placed on the NWL? The math seems to work against those waiting for waiver decisions at this point. Why grant a waiver if you can fill the class with the existing NWL?
I don’t think the 150 mandated by the regs fills the class. The delta between the regs - presidential, MOC slate winners and the 150 - and the total class size is completed by Admissions. This gives them the ability to check the boxes - demographics, athletes, scholars, etc. - on how they round out the class.
 
But if you get a waiver, would you then be placed on the NWL? The math seems to work against those waiting for waiver decisions at this point. Why grant a waiver if you can fill the class with the existing NWL?
I also think there are likely cases where the candidate awaiting a waiver, if granted, would have a much higher WCS than the remaining NWL candidates such that WP continues to pursue the waiver process. Also agree with your general summation that you may be fighting hard against the math if you are in this situation. Most importantly, though, it’s not over until WP says it is for everyone still waiting so all you can do at this point is stay strong, healthy, fit, and patient. And work on making sure the alternate plans are in place if needed.
 
I also think there are likely cases where the candidate awaiting a waiver, if granted, would have a much higher WCS than the remaining NWL candidates such that WP continues to pursue the waiver process. Also agree with your general summation that you may be fighting hard against the math if you are in this situation. Most importantly, though, it’s not over until WP says it is for everyone still waiting so all you can do at this point is stay strong, healthy, fit, and patient. And work on making sure the alternate plans are in place if needed.
All good thoughts. The other aspect of the waiver process is that the timing of the waiver consideration doesn't appear to be based on WCS scoring, but rather when they get to the file. As we've seen on this forum, candidates can be in limbo waiting for a waiver decision for months. And I believe Mr. Mullen has said that waivers are considered by the SAs on a first in first out basis.
 
All good thoughts. The other aspect of the waiver process is that the timing of the waiver consideration doesn't appear to be based on WCS scoring, but rather when they get to the file. As we've seen on this forum, candidates can be in limbo waiting for a waiver decision for months. And I believe Mr. Mullen has said that waivers are considered by the SAs on a first in first out basis.
I think you will also find on this forum that they won’t seek waivers for candidates they don’t deem competitive.
 
I thought it was more along the lines of everyone who is 3Q with a nom goes on the list, slate winners are determined, then the next 150 on the list based on WCS must be offered appointment by law, then Admissions rounds out the class. Guessing there is some tweaking in there for situations where candidates have presidential and congressional noms. Guessing it’s up to Admissions as to how they charge the appointments while complying with the regs.

You may be correct and I am explaining the mechanics incorrectly. Hopefully Thomasvlogs can explain it correctly for us.

Stealth_81
 
Hey everyone,

I hope you're all staying safe and healthy during this turbulent time.

I know it's been awhile since I've posted on here but wanted to make myself available to answer any questions you might have. My name is First Lieutenant Tuan Le and I am an Admissions Officer at the United States Military Academy at West Point. I personally manage the Southeast region but I am open to helping all candidates (or redirecting you to the right resource/person).

Short intro on me -- I graduated from West Point in 2016 and majored in EV Science/Engineering/Pre-Med. Prior to attending West Point, I attended the University of Minnesota and served as a combat medic (68W) in the Minnesota National Guard. While at West Point, I was accepted into medical school (but deferred my acceptance to serve on Active Duty) and commissioned as a Medical Service Corps (MS) officer. I've been in positions as a medical platoon leader, battalion medical operations officer, and an environmental science engineering officer (ESEO). I was stationed at Fort Riley (Kansas), Fort Sam Houston (Texas), and more recently at West Point (New York). I also did a rotation out to Europe in Poland and Germany.

If you would like to learn more about the admissions process, cadet life, medical/grad school, active duty life or connect with other candidates, cadets, old grads -- feel free to PM me for more information.

I look forward to connecting with you all soon! Good luck on your academic pursuit and thank you for your commitment to serving our country.

- Long Gray Lessons :cool:
Greetings - fellow grad here, '84. Just noticed a post that led me to your YouTube channel. Love it. Sending it to my fellow FFRs in TN. Go Army!
 
As some of you have mentioned in previous discussions, Boys and Girls State have been cancelled in some states. To date – Maine, California, Indiana and New York have all cancelled their Girls and Boys states programs. Some of you may be concerned that you will not get the appropriate leadership scores if you were selected and could not attend. If you were selected but it is now cancelled, a letter from the Legion President will suffice for us. Please have it signed, dated, scanned, and emailed to your regional Admissions officer or technician.

Hi! My state (Florida) cancelled this morning, how would I go about getting the appropriate letter from my state president? I volunteer at the legion post but haven't had a chance to check in since COVID-19
 
Is the class of 2024 full, or are appointments still being offered?
 
Same question as jrice, I would assume after the 4/15 cutoff for medical, offers that are currently held open waiting medical waivers will be dropped, and additional candidates 3q will fill those openings, then essentially the class will be filled up, except for those that decline offers? One final question would be approximately how many are still in the running, that have not received TWE, vs approximately how many slots are left?
 
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