Thank you again!A letter inside BFE states, "you should accept or decline this appointment no later than May 1, 2020."
Thank you again!A letter inside BFE states, "you should accept or decline this appointment no later than May 1, 2020."
And Congratulations!!!A letter inside BFE states, "you should accept or decline this appointment no later than May 1, 2020."
RCs will be chasing down appointed candidates who haven’t accepted appointments by mid April so that they can gauge how many spots there are to fill.Really I thought I read that they were shortening the timeline this year. Ok thank you
98) Adopt3/DS/LOE/11 Feb 2020/undecided/LA/Congressional & Senatorial/Direct Appointment1) leephi / DS / LOA / 12-Nov-2019 / Accepted / KS / Senatorial / Direct Appointment
2) Spartan19 / Self / LOA / 12-Dec-2019 / Accepted / IL / Congressional, Service Connected / Direct Appointment
3) wanlime / Self / LOA / 11-Dec-2019 / Accepted / NJ / Congressional / Direct Appointment
4) usma2024 / Self / LOA / 11-Dec-2019 / Accepted / NJ / Congressional / Direct Appointment
5) GLJQ / DS / LOA / 25-Oct-2019 / Undecided / PA / Presidential / Direct Appointment
6) desertlover12 / Self / LOA / 20-Dec-2019 / Undecided / AZ / Senatorial / Direct Appointment
7) Artemis24 / DD / LOA / 18-Dec-2019 / Undecided / NM / Congressional, Senatorial / Direct Appointment
8) USMAGRAD1988 / DS / LOA / 26-Dec-2019 / Accepted / PA / Congressional / Direct Appointment
9) Ditka089 / Self / LOA / 21-Dec-2019 / Undecided / WA / Congressional / Direct Appointment
10) knightsmom2024 / DD / LOA / 13 Jan 2020 / Accepted / NC / Congressional / Direct Appointment
11) Mikoviman / Self / LOA / 13-Jan-2020 / Accepted / FL / Presidential / Direct Appointment
12) sicem99 / DS / LOA / 12-Jan-2020 / Accepted / TX / Congressional / Direct Appointment
13) wellsee / Self / LOA / 20-Nov-2019 / Accepted / CA / Congressional / Direct Appointment
14) AppMom2023 / DD / No LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Will Accept / AL / Congressional, Senatorial / College Re-Applicant
15) eyfdshv / Self / LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Will Accept / CA / Congressional / Direct Appointment
16) USMACandidate123 / Self / No LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Accepted / CA / Congressional / Direct Appointment
17) GADestiny / DS / LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Accepted / TX / Congressional / Direct Appointment
18) JacksDaChen / Self / LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Will Accept / NY / Congressional / Direct Appointment
19) armymike7 / Self / LOE / 06-Feb-2020 / Accepted / CT / Congressional, Senatorial / Direct Appointment
20) MightyWings2001 / Self / No LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Undecided / PA / Congressional, Presidential / College Re-Applicant
21) WD1 / Self / No LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Undecided / MI / Congressional / Direct Appointment
22) lucianoborjas / Self / LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Will Accept / CA / Congressional / Direct Appointment
23) TexasAggie204 / DS / LOE / 06-Feb-2020 / Undecided / PA / Congressional, Senatorial / Direct Appointment
24) ORArmyMom / DS / No LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Will Accept / OR / Congressional, Presidential / AOG Prep Re-Applicant
25) buckeyeguy20 / Self / LOE / 06-Feb-2020 / Undecided / OH / Congressional, Senatorial / Direct Appointment
26) s-xuer / Self / LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Accepted / WA / Congressional / Direct Appointment
27) boxmm24 / DS / LOE / 06-Feb-2020 / Will Accept / PA / Congressional, Presidential / Direct Appointment
28) gtboy7 / Self / LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Accepted / GA / Congressional / Direct Appointment
29) HCopter / DD / LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Undecided / TX / AJROTC / Direct Appointment
30) id14 / Self / LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Will Accept / GA / Congressional / Direct Appointment
31) cck88 / DS / No LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Accepted / VA / Senatorial / Direct Appointment
32) snArfff_ / Self / LOE / 06-Feb-2020 / Accepted / NJ / Congressional / Direct Appointment
33) CatC / DS / LOE / 06-Feb-2020 / Will Accept / MI / Congressional / Direct Appointment
34) G22 / Self / LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Will Accept / CO / Congressional / Direct Appointment
35) NWW005 / Self / LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Accepted / MD / Congressional / Direct Appointment
36) Wildcat715 / DS / LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Accepted / NJ / Congressional / College Re-Applicant
37) troc8500 / DS / No LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Will Accept / NY / Congressional / Direct Appointment
38) sunnytrail / Self / LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Will Accept / TX / Congressional / Direct Appointment
39) js6343 / DS / LOE / 06-Feb-2020 / Will Accept / IL / Congressional / Direct Appointment
40) mjdgmom / DS / LOE / 06-Feb-2020 / Accepted / WI / Congressional, Senatorial, ROTC / Direct Appointment
41) Read12378 / Self / No LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Will Accept / GA / Senatorial / Direct Appointment
42) sfbc2024 / Self / LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Accepted / IN / Congressional, Senatorial / Direct Appointment
43) MedrewUSMA2024 / DS / LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Will Accept / AZ / Congressional, Senatorial / Direct Appointment
44) 2024WestPoint / Self / LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Will Accept / MI / Congressional / Direct Appointment
45) JacksDaChen / Self / LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Accepted / NY / Congressional / Direct Appointment
46) TheRev / DS / LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Will Accept / AL / Congressional, Senatorial / Direct Appointment
47) usma_2024 / Self / No LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Accepted/ VA / Congressional, Presidential / AOG Civil Prep
48) jbeattie501 / Self / No LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Accepted/ TN / Congressional, Senatorial / Direct Appointment
49) SADad / DS / No LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Undecided / TX / Congressional / Direct Appointment
50) Fiona1124 / DD / LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Will Accept / WA / Congressional / Direct Appointment
51) ShilloFi / Self / No LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Accepted / NY / Congressional / Direct Appointment
52) OkCountry / DS / No LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Accepted / OK / Congressional / Direct Appointment
53) TX_20 / Self / No LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Will Accept / TX / Congressional, Presidential / Direct Appointment
54) usma2024hopeful / Self / LOE / 06-Feb-2020 / Will Accept / TX / Congressional / Direct Appointment
55) iprefer2024 / Self / LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Accepted / MS / Congressional, Senatorial, Presidential / Direct Appointment
56) 2PilotMom / DS / LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Undecided / MT / Senatorial / Direct Appointment
57) Aina Haina / DS / LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Will Decline / HI / Congressional / Direct Appointment
58) glj104 / DS / LOE / 06-Feb-2020 / Undecided / SC / Congressional / Direct Appointment
59) armyarmryarmy / Self / LOE / 06-Feb-2020 / Undecided / TN / Congressional, AROTC / College Re-Applicant
60) allyoop / DS / LOE / 06-Feb-2020 / Undecided / SC / Congressional, Senatorial / Direct Appointment
61) butcher / DS / LOE / 06-Feb-2020 / Undecided / WI / Congressional / Direct Appointment
62) 2024Fighter / DS / LOE / 06-Feb-2020 / Undecided / OK / Congressional, Senatorial / Direct Appointment
63) westpoint2024 / Self / LOE / 06-Feb-2020 / Undecided / IL / Congressional / Direct Appointment
64) Aellison / DS / No LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Will Accept / IL / Congressional, Senatorial / Direct Appointment
65) curiousandreading / DD / LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Will Accept / IL / Congressional / Direct Appointment
66) Nailbird / Self / LOE / 06-Feb-2020 / Will Accept / CA / Congressional / Direct Appointment
67) CO2024 / DD / No LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Undecided / WV / Congressional, Senatorial / Direct Appointment
68) LFG / DS / No LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Undecided / CA / Congressional / Direct Appointment
69) tryingmybest / DS / LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Will Accept / PA / Congressional / Direct Appointment
70) ilusma / self / LOE / 07-Feb-2020 / Will Accept / TX / Congressional / Direct Appointment
71)PantherMom/DS/LOE/07-Feb-2020/Will Accept/ MO/ Congressional/ Direct Appointment
72) EagleMurphy6 / self / LOE / 10-Feb-2020 /undecided / MI / Congressional / Direct Appointment
73) js6343/ DS/ LOE / 6-Feb-2020 /Will Accept/ IL/ Congressional / Direct Appointment
74) AGP2024 / Self / No LOA / 6-Feb-2020 / MI / Congressional / Direct Appointment
75) blacknight2024 / Self / No LOA / 06-Feb-2020 / Will Accept / RI / Senatorial / Direct Appointment
76) mdmomma /DS /LOE /10-Feb-2020 / Will Accept / MD/ Congressional /Direct Appointment
77) Mr.Coconut /Self /LOE /10-Feb-2020 / Undecided/ MN/ Congressional /Direct Appointment
78) USMA85 / DS / No LOA / 10-Feb 2020 / Undecided / GA / Congressional / Direct Appointment
79) CyberRanger / Self / No LOA / 10 Feb 2020 / Accepted / NJ / Congressional, Presidential, ROTC / College Re-Applicant
80) westm / Self / LOA / 11-Feb-2020 / Accepted / FL / Congressional / Direct Appointment
81) lacrosse27 / Self / LOE / 11-Feb-2020 / Accepted / CO / Congressional / Direct Appointment
82) Zaggs / Self / LOA / 11-Feb-2020 / Undecided / AL / Congressional (House & Senate) / Direct Appointment
83) Rhode512 / Self / LOA / 11-Feb-2020 / Accepted / AZ / Congressional, Presidential / Direct Appointment
84) AndrewPerry/ DS / LOA / 11- Feb-2020 / Accepted / OH / Congressional (House & Senate) / Direct Appointment
85) CampcMom/ DS / LOA / 11 Feb 2020 / Undecided / NC / Congressional, Presidential / Direct Appointment
86) ArmyAFMom/DS/No LOA/6 Feb 2020/Undecided/FL/Congressional/Direct Appt
87) H_Caesar_76/ Self / No LOA / 11 Feb 2020 / Accepted / NC / Congressional, Senatorial, HROTC / Direct Appointment
88) ColGa / DS / LOA / 11 Feb 2020 / Will accept / GA / Congressional / Direct Appointment
89) Pineapple74 / DS / No LOA / 11 Feb 2020 / Undecided / CA / Congressional / Direct Appointment
90) hchen5041/ self/ no LOA/ 11 Feb 2020 / Accepted / WA / Congressional and Senatorial / Direct Appointment
91) 2020WPAF/self/ no LOA/ 11 Feb 2020/ Undecided/ WA/ Congressional/ Direct Appointment
92) STF16 / DS / No LOA / 11 Feb 2020 / Declined / KS / Pres / Direct Appointment
93) EvelynG / DD / No LOA / 11 Feb 2020 / Undecided / ID / Congressional / Direct Appointment
94) ChoirDude / DS / LOA / 11 Feb 2020 / Accepted/ TX / Congressional / Direct Appointment
95) Hopefulplebemom2024 / Self / No LOA / 12 Feb 2020 / Will Accept / VA / Congressional (Principal) and Senatorial / Direct Appointment
96) richard_miao / DS /No LOA / 12 Feb 2020 / Undecided/ GA / Congressional / Direct Appointment
97) Ems410 / Self / LOA / 13 Feb 2020 / Will Accept / NY / Congressional / Direct Appointment
98) Adopt3/DS/LOE/11 Feb 2020/undecided/LA/Congressional & Senatorial/Direct Appointment
99) Delmom/DD/No LOA/13 Feb 2020/Will Accept/DE/Senatorial- principal/Direct Appointment
FAQ: The Admissions Process For Information, Not Endorsement |
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Q: The instruction booklet indicates that a background check is to be performed by each jurisdiction. I would like clarification on a couple of points as a previous post seems to have interpreted this differently.
Example: We live in a city within county A. Our son attends a private school in another city which is in county B. I interpret the instructions to require a Record Check Form be completed by the police in each of the 4 jurisdictions: our city of residence, our county of residence, the city where his school is located and the county where his school is located.
Secondly, we moved across the country 18 months ago. How far back do we need to go in having these forms completed? Our son has recently moved back across the country to complete his high school and graduate with his life long friends. He is residing with grandparents for this purpose. They live in a different county than we did prior to our move. How does one go about obtaining additional Business Reply envelopes for this purpose?
A: As to the multijurisdictional, we obtained our county police record check and also the state police record check. Again, this was four years ago. You need to contact your admissions representative to ask for additional business reply forms and specific answers to these questions.
A: And two years ago, as stated in an earlier post, we went to our local small-city police department, and were able to have all jurisdictions checked from there. They ran our cadet's name, etc. through their national computer network, the chief signed the form, and we were on our way. Again, unless something more is now being requested or has changed, this should be all that's necessary. The best advice again, as stated, is to check with (your) admissions contact to be sure.
Regarding Bank Accounts For CadetsA: Laws concerning obtaining an individuals police record also vary State to State. In Massachusetts, police agency is allowed to release a police record- even to the individual. They are limited to releasing information only within their files. An individual who wishes a complete copy of their record must apply to the Criminal History System Board in Boston - forms are available at the local Departments the charge a small fee (of course!)
I am not sure if other States have similar requirements - Mass., has very strict CORI Laws - even people who are legally allowed access to this information ( such as Army recruiters) must go through theCHSB- Local Departments can access this informationn for their own purposes - but can not release it.
Q: What advise is there regarding bank accounts for cadets? Is it best to have one at home or closer to West Point? I understand that cadets can cash checks on post with proper ID but received a suggestion that a NY-based bank may be preferable when the cadets evenually get to venture off the post.
A: You will hear many opinions on the issue of bank accounts. Simply, which bank a cadet chooses to use is purely a personal matter. Some cadets maintain accounts in their hometown bank, while others open accounts at West Point. Were I to guess, I would speculate that two of the more popular banking choices for cadets are the PENTAGON FEDERAL CREDIT UNION (The West Point Federal Credit Union merged with PFCU on 1 April 2002) and/or USAA. The PFCU maintains an office in Highland Falls, and has a branch office right in the cadet area, and an ATM machine located up located up at the Commissary/PX complex. Hence, maintaining money at the PFCU is easy and painless, and can be accessed at almost any time, whereas physically accessing another bank, even in Highland Falls, will be limited to weekends when walking privileges are permitted, and most banks are closed. PFCU also offers online banking at no charge, and use of the ATMs at school are likewise at no charge. See www.penfed.org
USAA is also a popular option with many military members, as they will rebate a certain number of ATM charges per month. See www.usaa.com Many "cows" have their "cow loan" with USAA, and so, open accounts with this entity. Down the road, your son/daughter will likely become familiar with USAA, as it offers many services, including insurance. USAA rebates the fee charged by other banks for using their ATM machines up to 10 visits per month.
One of the nice aspects of these two institutions is that they have a long history of serving military members and are aware of their particular needs, particularly if/when deployed, or on TDY. Also, both PFCU and USAA are worldwide. Obviously, another option is to maintain an account at home and have access to either PFCU or USAA. That way, the cadet has the benefit of the military-friendly aspects of these two institutions, and Mom and Dad can easily transfer money when needed.
ATM charges are the big thing for you to check. Will your hometown bank charge your son/daughter every time he uses his ATM card at West Point? As they often withdraw such princely sums as $20.00, ATM fees will add up quickly.
When our older son entered West Point, he opened his account at the WPFCU (now PFCU)... he groused when the bank changed to PFCU - now he proudly tells me that PFCU offers one of the best savings rates... These kids learn quickly... When he receives his "cow" loan, he will (I believe) be required to switch his direct deposit over to USAA - However, recognizing the value of added interest, he has decided to maintain both accounts - internet transfers of sums make it quick and convenient for them to switch money from savings to checking, etc...
Some parents like to maintain the local bank, as it is easier for them to transfer funds into their son/daughter's account. Like the decision of giving your son/daughter an "allowance" or extra money, this is simply a family decision - no right or wrong. We felt that the Army salary was more than sufficient to meet his needs (and it's amazing how much $$$ they blow on CDs, videos and food) - note needs v. wants.... And, as we live geographically close, our son has the benefit of his personal banker - i.e., Mom - whenever I see him, he seems to have an empty wallet - often he refuses money, but when he was on his way down to NYC to enjoy 500th Night weekend, I made the mistake of asking if he had cash.... his reply "No, I'll have to run to the ATM before we leave"... well, luckily for him (not so for me) I *happened* to have cash on me, thereby saving him the trip to the ATM (and the money) Do I expect/want to see that $60 back? No....Does he repay me for other things? Absolutely....
Old adage ... first one out is the best one dressed - certainly applies in this household.
A: A member asked if the cadet candidate can do the paperwork for joining PFCU = Pentagon Federal Credit Unionon R Day. Short answer: NO.
In one of the many packets you will receive between now and R Day will be adirect deposit form. The USMA Treasurer requests that this be filled outand returned -
Make life as simple for your son/daughter as possible. R Day will be incredibly stressful - the LAST thing they want is to have to stand in YET another line, because they didn't have some paperwork completed in advance as required. Log onto the bank, or call - explain that you have a son/daughter entering USMA, and ask to speak with the representative who sets up and handles West Point accounts.... Five minutes of your time now (and likely a $5.00 deposit) will save years of their life.....
This member also asked about the cow loan... VERY briefly, because I do not believe in inundating y'all with an overload of information before it is relevant - during spring of cow year, all cadets with finances in good standing (and yes, they do credit checks) are offered a low interest loan - amount of the loan and interest rate varies from year to year - this year it's like a $24,000 or $27,000 loan - Repayment doesn't start until after graduation, and the interest rate is something like 1.5% This is the "seed money" that many cadets use to purchase cars, their uniforms for when they graduate, their Class ring, fund their IRAs...... Don't worry about the cow loan now.... that's another lifetime away!
.....AND... while we're speaking of lifetimes - when you get closer to R Day, you will receive much advice about having your son/daughter AND you guys take it "One Day At A Time"... Basically, the concept being that the entity, in its entirety, can be overwhelming - but your job is only to make it through today .... tomorrow is sufficient time to worry about tomorrow....My husband has/had a different take on this advice - in his mind "One Day At A Time" can, in and of itself be too long - too overwhelming ..... his advice to all our folks .... take it "One Meal At A Time."
A: Each of these sites had all the info necessary and both are available to candidates for purposes of the direct deposit choice:
Banking OptionsA: You can use an account at a bank at home and use a debit card or credit card or check and avoid the cash machine.
Q: A short time ago, there was a message regarding banks/credit unions available around West Point for new cadets. I have lost that message, and would like to know what some options are other than our home town bank. Thank you.
Direct Deposit FormA: You may wish to consider the banks that many military personnel find helpful. Visit www.penfed.org or www.usaa.com . The first referenced bank has physical locations right in the garrison area of West Point (real people located in Washington Hall) plus ATM machines up at the PX/Commissary complex and a branch office/ATM in Highland Falls. The second referenced bank also has an ATM machine in Highland Falls, but as it deals exclusively with military folk, also rebates up to 10 ATM fees per month.
Both banks referenced are very good (We personally have used both). They both offer a great deal of services. The second referenced bank is the one that just issued the cows their "cow loan" and also has "the lock" on great insurance rates for military families.
Cadets are likely equally split as to which of these two they prefer.
Q: We have a son going to West Point. We are having trouble with the Direct Deposit Form (ie: claim or payroll ID number, type of payment, etc.). I would appreciate any help in filling this out.
A: A careful reading of the instruction booklet section on Form 1099A with the form in front of you to permit easy reference should result in successful completion of the form. We have restated and rearranged the instructions below to assist you in the process: There are five steps to the process:
1. Complete Section 1, items A through G of Standard Form 1199A as indicated below:
2. Sign your full name and date the form in the Payee/Joint Payee Certification Block.
- Block A: Name of payee, address, telephone number. Print the address and phone number to which the financial institution can return the completed standard Form 1199A to you. Do not forget the postal zip code.
- Block B: Same name as payee.
- Block C: Print your Social Security Number.
- Block D: You must open a checking account (not savings).
- Block E: Enter your account number.
- Block F: Type of payment is: Fed Salary/Mil. Civilian Pay.
- Block G: Leave this blank.
3. Complete Section 2 as follows: In the Government Agency Name Block, enter U.S. Military Academy; In the Government Agency Address Block, enter West Point, NY 10996.
4. Send or take the completed Standard Form 1199A to the financial institution of your choice. The financial institution will complete the form and return all but their copy to you.
5. Bring the completed form with you when you report to West Point. It will be collected from you after June 30th by a representative of the Defense Military Pay Office - West Point.....
... Any questions regarding completion of Standard Form 1199A should be directed to the Chief, Military Pay at (845) 938-6112/6109."
Accepted Candidate Changing High School Sports ParticipationA: This might help.
Q: The question was posed whether there would be any Academy-related consequences if an Accepted Candidate dropped high school baseball in favor of club rugby. It was further noted that the cadet candidate does not intend to play baseball at/for USMA....
High School Graduation Gift SuggestionsA: Participation in high school sports is entirely up to your son. He is not a recruited athlete, and USMA did not offer an appointment to him as a recruited athlete.
The ONLY potential glitch (and no real problem) is IF he put on his activities sheet that he was participating on the high school varsity baseball team in 12th grade.... which is unlikely, as the candidates typically only report what they have DONE, not what they intend to do.
If, however, he did make that representation, a quick e-mail to his Regional Commander at the Admissions Office notifying him/her that he will not be playing baseball will keep the files accurate with reality.
Q: Any suggestions for High School graduation gifts for a West Point-bound student?
A: Yes, rest, lots of water and things to do, such as cardio-pulmonary and leg development, to keep occupied and far away from HS graduation revelry.
Completing Instructions For Accepted CandidatesA: *Phone cards are probably tops on the list. They are not only a less expensive way to make long-distance calls home, but they give cadets an opportunity to stay in touch with high school friends (after Beast Barracks, of course!) spread out across the country.
*Cash is always a welcome gift. Cadets will be purchasing a printer, school supplies, and various items from the Cadet Bookstore/PX once classes start. They also tend to order food out a lot (again, after Beast) and appreciate not dipping into their own funds for that.
*McDonald's is just outside Thayer Gate and they deliver to cadets, so gift certificates are also a good idea.
*Religious reading material is permitted, so a couple of encouraging books are nice to have. We provided a journal for family and friends to write in at our cadets' high school graduation parties. It was just one book to carry but it was full of encouragement and memories.
*I was surprised that my new cadet took pictures during Beast with disposable cameras. I ended up mailing a few. (They can receive packages during Beast, but no FOOD.....you'll hear more about that as time nears). You might put this idea on the back burner till your new cadet lets you know whether or not he/she would want them during Beast.
Also, the Parent Forum webpage has gift ideas. Scroll down and click on "Gift Ideas Page". Scroll to the bottom of the page and look for "Gift Ideas for Incoming or Future Cadets".
Q: We are filling out the measurements card and it directs you to Defense Logistics Agency(Warfighters Clothing Support) for help in how to take measurements, yet there are many more measurements at the site than asked for on the card. The chest measurement asked for on the USMA card does not specify for women if it is the "bust" measurement or the "upper chest measurement". Do you have any contacts that can answer this question? The other measurements seem to be easily explained by the above website they referenced on the card.
The second issue is with regard to the vision survey card that asks for the date of the "Last Complete Eye Examination" other than USMA Application Physical Exam. My daughter has always had good vision per her physicals, which are not Complete Eye Exams, but rather are reading off a chart as a screening mechanism. It does not say she needs to have an exam. She passed the DODMERB Complete exam. Should she leave the date blank, insert the word "none" or schedule an exam?
The third question is related to the birth certificate. When we were at West Point in February, the office took a photocopy of a Cadet Candidate's certified copy of his Birth Certificate. If a photocopy will meet the requirements, I would like to avoid ordering a new one. I can send a photocopy tomorrow, but wanted to confirm that it would meet the requirements before acting.
Leg Inseam Size for Accepted CandidatesA: Take measurement on the bust so shirt is large enough that bust doesn't invite attention.
No, she does not need to go out and get an eye exam. That part is mainly for those who wear glasses and DAD needs the prescription so they can have the glasses ready on R-day.
Birth certificate requirement is for a certified or notarized copy of the birth certificate. To send a notarized photocopy of the certified (raised seal, stamp, colored ink, etc) birth certificate: photocopy certified (raised seal, stamp, colored ink, etc) birth certificate in front of notary. Or, use this to contact your local authority and possibly order a birth certificate online.
Q: We're completing the Uniform Data Card that came in the Instructions for Candidates Offered Admission booklet.
We're wondering about Leg Inseam Size. The illustration on the warfighter web site seems to show measurement to the floor, whereas when buying slacks, the inseam measurement is usually to the shoe heel top.
Our son wears slacks with a 32" inseam while his body-to-floor measurement is 34".
Any suggestions on what to indicate on the card? Thank-you.
A: I would just give his normal inseam length. West Point wants this info just so they have some approximate information on what sizes they will need and have them available. When they arrive on R-day, they will be completely measured and given the size that fits best.
If you take the Uniform factory tour over your Plebe Parent Weekend, you will discover that most of the uniforms for the class of 2007 have already been made. They fit what they already have and then tailor from there if necessary.
Low Quarter Shoes and Combat BootsA: The safest way to send in measurements is to take your son/daughter to a professional tailor. They know how to do the measurements, and will be happy to help.
I would not take any warfighter web site as gospel, particularly as the cadets are fitted for many different uniforms, most in the line of dress pants..... not BDUs (battle dress uniforms) also, your illustration may have been without shoes, which would make a difference.
... One other thought .... most young men do not know anymore where their waist is.... pants at West Point are not worn slung low, so certainly don't go by his current style of pants to judge waist size!
New cadets will be re-measured at West Point for the proper fitting of all their uniforms - this will give the uniform factory some idea of who will need what size on R Day....while all other uniforms will be issued later.
Q: In my son's acceptance packet, it states that at a later time he will receive a letter authorizing him to purchase a pair of low quarters. Is that pair the pair of black shoes he needs to take with him on R-day? Or does he need to go out and buy another pair from the mall?
A: The low quarters are precisely the shoes the cadet candidates will report in. Wait for the letter and get the right shoes - it will make a world of difference during Cadet Basic Training!
A: Well, not necessarily precisely . That being said, using the certificate/letter is not mandatory...it is an option/benefit for those who wish to...and who can...take advantage of it.
The certificate/letter will mandate the use of an authorized outlet...some of which will be too far for many candidates to reasonably access unless you want to try mail order, which I would NOT recommend due to the importance of the shoes and the fit required to insure success.
If the military outlet is too far away, you still have some viable options. First understand that your cadet-candidate will be issued regulation low-quarter shoes on R-Day. However, one of the primary purposes of having a pair ahead of time...in addition to the requirement to bring a pair...is getting used to them/breaking them in. If they are the same or a similar regulation shoe, the better. In the event your new cadet must wear them for whatever reason while they're breaking in the new ones, or they don't have the correct size (rare), they'll be ready with the pair they brought/wore.
You can try and locate a similar pair at an Army-Navy or similar military-type store, or even at a uniform or industrial shoe outlet. My son did exactly that 2 years ago and was none the worse for it. Rest assured, MANY (if not most) cadet-candidates will show up on R-Day WITHOUT the exact regulation shoes...but instead wearing a reasonable facimile, or worse.
If you know where any police officers in your community get their shoes, that may be a good place to look (but remember, they must be polishable leather uppers, with plain, round toe...not corfam or other glossy finish).
Don't panic if you can't locate the exact shoes...do the best you can according to the candidate instructions and get them broken in...and polished! This will be the least of their worries on R-Day, I assure you.
A: Your local field force rep should be able to direct you with greater specificity. The ones for my daughter that we got at the West Point PX were as described above, lace-up, plain toe, low heel, polish-able leather uppers with a synthetic thin sole. I highly recommend trying them on with the relatively thin black socks as we went through two pair before getting the right fit. I though they looked great, but daughter wasn't about to start wearing them to school.
A: Probably questions about combat boots will surface soon, following on the low quarter shoes discussion. Some may hear about "breaking in" footwear and wonder if combat boots or low quarters are meant.
Thus this advice, which surveys topics besides footwear.
A: As far as the boots go, don't worry about shining them. You will have ample opportunity to do so during Beast. To break them in during Beast, we wore them into the shower and walked around in them until they were mostly dry. This seemed to do the trick for me. Also if you did not get two pairs yet, wait. They will issue another pair to you and this helped me great deal because by then my feet were pretty swollen and my bigger boots came in handy when my feet were swollen during road marches and what not. They were just big enough to accommodate some swelling. In general just make sure they fit well. If you think you will get blisters(not everyone does) bring stuff to put on them. [Cadet name omitted] likes moleskin but I'm a big fan of second skin.
Finding a Local West Point Parents' ClubA: I am assuming you just bought one pair of plain ol' combat boots. Make sure they fit really well...so if you bought them thinking you would grow into them more or something that won�t work. Because if you boots are a little too big or a little too small you will get terrible blisters (I speak from experience). (If you are worried about blisters at all (you will be on your feet ALL the time) it might be a good idea to bring some mole skin with you to Beast. You also get issued another pair of boots during the summer. What you will end up doing is using one pair about for training (a pair you can really beat up and are pretty comfortable for road marches) and one pair when you are just around the barracks and stuff (this will be the cleaner, shinier pair). I recommend trying to break in the boots you have now and designate them as your field (training) boots...so don't worry too much about shining them.
As far as breaking them in....just start wearing them...go for a hike or even a run, or just wear them when you are doing regular stuff (I know that sounds really embarrassing but with a pair of blue jeans no one will notice you are wearing them. However, if you would like to try and shine them... Get an old t-shirt and a can of black Kiwi shoe polish. You will take a finger or two and wrap in the cloth, then dip it in water, then put some polish on it, and then start applying it to the shoe in small circles. With boots, it will take a pretty thick layer of polish before it ends up turning up a shine (I don't think I ever got a quality shine on my boots until after Beast was over). Don't stress about this stuff too much, you learn these sorts of things when you get here.
Q: How do I contact a West Point Parent Club in my area?
A: In the past, the Public Affairs Office at West Point has been able to the President's of all West Point Parents' Clubs across the country about new cadet candidates coming to the Academy from their respective states. Many WPPC host picnics and/or luncheons to welcome the new cadet candidates and their families.
Unfortunately, new security measures prohibit disclosure of new cadet candidates names to the Parents' Clubs. You, as the parent of the new cadet candidate, must reach out to your respective club. Mrs. Delores Salvatore, of the Public Affairs Office, will be happy to provide the email address of any WPPC President. Delores can be contacted by email at the following address: "Salvatore, D. MRS PAO" yd2883@exmail.usma.army.mil or by telephone at 845-938-5650.
In the meanwhile, the President of the WPPC- IOWA, Jan Worthern, has asked me to post her email address, with the invitation for any new cadet candidates from IOWA to contact her. Jan's email address is jworthan@hotmail.com .
A: In the past, the Public Affairs Office at West Point has been able to the President's of all West Point Parents' Clubs across the country about new cadet candidates coming to the Academy from their respective states. Many WPPC host picnics and/or luncheons to welcome the new cadet candidates and their families.
Unfortunately, new security measures prohibit disclosure of new cadet candidates names to the Parents' Clubs. You, as the parent of the new cadet candidate, must reach out to your respective club. Mrs. Delores Salvatore, of the Public Affairs Office, will be happy to provide the email address of any WPPC President. Delores can be contacted by email at the following address: "Salvatore, D. MRS PAO" yd2883@exmail.usma.army.mil or by telephone at 845-938-5650.
In the meanwhile, the President of the WPPC-IOWA, Jan Worthern, has asked me to post her email address, with the invitation for any new cadet candidates from IOWA to contact her. Jan's email address is jworthan@hotmail.com .
The Upfront DepositA: Check the following web site for information on West Point Parents Clubs in your area: http://www.west-point.org/parent/parent_clubs.html
Q: What is the story on the upfront deposit of @ $2400?
A: IF your finances permit, the routine procedure is for parents to send the deposit to Treasurer, USMA so that it is received prior to R Day, 30 June. West Point addresses this issue very clearly. "Parents and candidates should make every possible effort to meet the initial deposit requirement. Requests for a waiver or deferment of the deposit are considered on a case-by case basis. A request for a waiver should be sent to: Treasurer, USMA." (page 3...Instructions for Candidates Offered Admission - Class of 2007)
That said, USMA does NOT expect any candidate to turn down the appointment because the $2,400 would cause dire family circumstances.... There have been circumstances in the past, and there will be circumstances in the future, when a number of candidates simply cannot come up with the $2,400.
Advice should you find yourself in this situation: Contact Treasurer, USMA AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, explain your situation, and request additional time to pay, a payment plan, etc. Worst case scenario is that the $2,400 will be added to the cadet candidate's already hefty "loan" and his cadet account will be charged, and possibly his monthly pay will be a bit less over time to repay the additional money....
Unless you ask for a waiver, no one will offer it... If you need it, don't hesitate to ask - West Point will work with you to make it happen...
High School Awards AssembliesA: Thought we would add a note on deposits and $'s. Our now 1LT (USMAPS '97, USMA '01) sold his car when he entered Reg Army after HS graduation ('95). He put that money in some funds (simple things that $2000 would get him into). While at USMAPS, he was still receiving his Reg Army pay (back then PVT FC wasn't a big money maker if that's what you might be thinking), but had to save for his deposit during the year (at that time there were check points on his bank account to prove that he had enough funds for his USMA deposit). He saved his $'s while at USMAPS (even gave up some fun times so as not to dip into this account). He still has his original investments to which he added his USMA Cow loan $'s in lieu of buy a car. (Investments at that time seemed a good thing?) The car purchase came back after USMA graduation ('96 Saturn) that will probably have it's wheels run off it after he returns from Korea. Thought this might be of interest to prior service/USMAPs parents that are preparing for Class of 2007!
Q: I have been asked by my son's school to provide a document from the USMA stating the dollar value of a USMA scholarship. How can I obtain a document such as this?
A: USMA Admissions Office gives it as $375K as of the Spring of 2003.
Q: Can you talk about the high school awards assemblies at which Accepted Candidates are presented their Appointments to the Academy with some fanfare?
A: A member asked many questions about awards ceremonies. I will attempt to answer them as best I can, utilizing the memorandum supplied by USMA to all Admissions liaison officers. First and foremost, USMA will NOT be sending anything to any guidance department/local school. When a candidate is offered admission, West Point sends out a copy of the awards certificate in a picture folder with proposed comments for the awards ceremony to the member of the DAD field force listed as the ZAC for that candidate (MALO/field force, etc). West Point expects the field force to make arrangements with the schools to have a USMA representative (the local field force) present at the awards ceremony.
As the Zip Area Coordinator for CT A/C, my husband has been receiving these certificates throughout the spring - every time a candidate is offered admission - and in fact, I have a very busy spring planned for him - attending various awards presentations and graduations....
In addition to the memorandum sent to all ZACs for how to handle the awards ceremonies, West Point provided a sample presentation script - text that the presenter can read verbatim, or incorporate into his own style... The script provided this year indicates a dollar value of the scholarship of $280,000.
Personally, I have heard higher values - however, as this is coming directly from USMA DAD (Directorate of Admissions) I reckon we'll go with their figures
If you have not been contacted by your local ZAC/MALO/Field Force whatever up to this point, you can either contact your Regional Commander at USMA DAD, and he will be able to tell you who is "your" ZAC .... If you prefer, I can also try to get this info for you .... if you tell me what city you live near, I can access the data bank and find "who's out there".
As indicated, I also have the script - so just in case your ZAC is not able to attend , I can fax or retype the script and send it to you...
Having the ZAC/MALO, etc. making the presentation is always really a show stopper .... the pause before the dollar amount is mentioned is always followed by a tremendous gasp thereafter..... It's a nice script provided by West Point.... you'll be happy.
Terminology IS Important: To Parents of Accepted/Cadet CandidatesA: Regarding some suggested comments at the awards assembly: http://www.west-point.org/academy/malo-wa/hndbk/AwardSuggRemark.html
Q: As we approach R Day, I would like to give you a heads up on a few things. From this moment on, terminology IS important... it may seem silly to you, but trust me, if you can save your son/daughter a few too many push-ups by addressing mail properly, etc., it will be a much appreciated gift.
What To Bring On R-DayA: Okay, so as to terminology:
* At the present time, everyone who is a candidate for the Class of '07 falls into one of the following categories: candidate - they are still in the application process - no appointment has been made cadet candidate - YEAH ... that lovely green folder has arrived, and the appointment has been made and accepted
* From the time they accept the appointment up until the MOMENT they take the oath, they are referred to as cadet candidates... you will likely hear this often in the early moments of R Day
* New cadet - Once the cadet candidate takes the OATH, they become New Cadets. From that moment on, they will be referred to -in our case, for example - New Cadet Hostler. Just New Cadet Last Name - no first names will exist...Throughout Beast, all mail should be addressed to New Cadet So and So... Johnny left home and So and So took his place
* On Acceptance Day, they will officially be welcomed into the Corps, and, in addition to receiving their white hat, will lose the "New"... They will then be Cadet So and So... Unless things change this year, plebes do not officially have first names until promotion, and if you are anything like me, you will silently shudder to hear them calling each other only by their last names in public... Don't fret ... in the warmth and coziness of the barracks (okay, so now you KNOW I've lost it they do unofficially call their friends by first name (though likely not during Beast, as they may be too busy quivering
Lots of little rules - lots of little hints that can make you (and their) passage through this four year roller coaster a tad bit easier....
Q: What should or is recommended to be brought to R-Day?
Bugle NotesA: From the Red Book "Instructions for Candidates Offered Admission Class of 2007", bring the following:
Optional:
- Copies of Tickets and Lodging Receipts for reimbursement after the 30th.
- Copy of Immunization Record.
- Completed Direct Pay deposit Form 1199A.
- Social Security Card.
- Dental X-rays if not already sent to West Point
- One piece of luggage, tagged with your full name.
- Comfortable travel clothes-do not bring extra clothes
- $40.00 in bills and $1.00 in change.
- For Women: 9 white or beige bras-durable, modest & supportive (3 of the 9 to be athletic-strong support while running).
- Wear one pair of "broken in" inexpensive, black leather laced shoes with plain toes and rubber heels when reporting.
- One pair good quality running shoes, designed for running with maximum shock absorption and balance of motion control and cushioning characteristics. Not "cross training" and must be "broken in".
- Combat boots-2 pair, "broken in"
- Razors or depilatories.
- For women: clear or hair colored devices to hold hair above the collar.
Then there are additional items recommended by cadets from experience:
- Non-electric alarm clock
- A framed picture, not larger than 8X10
- Sunglasses
- Plain wristwatch (Note that military time is 24 hour clock)
- Musical instrument
- Small hand-held dryer and/or curling iron
- Electric razor
- Religious reading material
http://www.west-point.org/academy/malo-wa/inspirations/GradAdvice1.html
By the West Point Parents' Club of Michigan:
http://www.west-point.org/parent/wppc_michigan/handbook.html
And by the West Point Parents'Club of Washington:
http://www.west-point.org/parent/wppc-wa/pubs/PPHndbk02.doc
Note that foot care products such as Gold Bond powder, mole skin and band-aids, gel insoles for combat boots, wool socks/nylon socks or liners, extra crew socks (plain white), and spandex shorts to prevent chafing under BDU's are some of the items commonly recommended.
Q: What are Bugle Notes; how can it be purchased; and does it need to be memorized prior to R-Day?
A: Bugle Notes, for those whose interest has just been peaked, is the official bible for all cadets ... small, (as in tiny 2 x 3 but 200+ pages) but packed with all sorts of "stuff". It is issued every year to the incoming class, so the only Bugle Notes now would be that issued to the Class of '06.
Tabbing the APFT During Cadet Basic TrainingA: A member asked how to get a copy of Bugle Notes. They are available by calling the Cadet Bookstore at Bookstore (845) 938-5193, and if I recall correctly, cost approximately $40.
There is always some traffic before R-Day whether incoming candidates should memorize Bugle Notes. Short answer: NO. First of all, much is informational (Message from the Superintendent, Message from the Commandant, Message from the Dean, etc....History of West Point, etc. etc. etc.). Yes, there will be some "knowledge" that all new cadets must learn that is contained in the Bugle Notes, BUT the handy-dandy little New Cadet Handbook, which will also be issued, becomes the REAL official bible of all new cadets. It tells them week by week what knowledge they must learn, and whether they must learn it verbatim or general concept. It's even tinier than the Bugle Notes, and the print is about 10X smaller. It is the new cadet handbook that they will carry with them everywhere.
The New Cadet Handbook is obviously not available for purchase, and is not even yet published for the current class. The Bugle Notes from last year may make a nice graduation gift, and your new cadet candidate may wish to peruse some of the information, but it should not be a matter of stress or a feeling that everything must be learned before R Day.
Remember also, that it will become a dust collector in your home when your son/daughter departs for USMA. They will be issued their very own Bugle Notes. So as long as you are willing to spend the money for a nice little reference book that you will have much longer (and may also like to peruse) call the Cadet Bookstore.
Also check these sites:
http://www.west-point.org/academy/malo-wa/inspirations/buglenotes.html
http://www.west-point.org/parent/wppc-wa/pubs/NCPrimer02.doc
http://www.usma.edu/uscc/dca/Pubs/Bugle.html
Q: What is the level of performance for tabbing on the APFT during CBT?
Cadet Free Time On Acceptance Day (A-Day)A: To tab (B+) the APFT (and get the patch) you must score a 270 or above and get a 90 or above in every event. Be ready for the first one. We took it the third day we were there, and I was really bad. Make sure you drink water but really make sure you eat as much as you can so you don't get weak. You'll be really tired, too, so be prepared for that. Knowing about all of this should help you, so don't worry about it too much.
Run = 15:30; push-ups = 38; sit-ups = 78
15:27 two mile gets 100+ points
38 pushups gets 91 points
78 sit-ups 100 points
Q: My husband and I were thinking about coming back to West Point (from Oregon) for Acceptance Day weekend. (We will be there for R Day.) I was reading about this weekend and am wondering if our son will have too much to do and if we would be in the way? It sounds like new cadets will have recently assigned homework, new roommates, duties, etc. I don't want to stress him out any more than he might be, especially if he has a lot of homework, nor do I want to be in the way or interrupt other activities he should be doing. I read in earlier postings that new cadets had quite a bit of free time during the weekend, but maybe that isn't really the case. Maybe it would be best to leave him to adjust to new friends, school, homework, etc.
Is this an OK time to come or not? For us it involves coming from a long way away, airline tickets, hotel, car rental, etc., which we can afford to do if this is a good weekend to come. We are coming for Plebe Parent weekend in Oct. Your thoughts??
Walking Privileges for New Cadets and PlebesA: The question was asked whether it would be appropriate to come out for Acceptance Day, or if, perchance you would be in the way. Acceptance Day weekend is the first opportunity you will have to see and spend time with your son/daughter since R Day. They will be exhausted, but exhilarated ... too tired to talk, too much to talk about to stop talking ... anxious about classes, desperate to do something other than sit in their barracks room ....
YOU, as the parent will be desperate to see them ... and likewise they will be anxious to see you. If you can make arrangements to travel to West Point, by all means *do*. Some time shortly (relative term after the parade, the new plebes (no longer new cadets!) will be released to spend time with family and friends. They will have from mid Saturday afternoon to late Saturday evening, and then the majority of Sunday to spend time with you ... and oh, the stories they will tell ... and the food they will want to eat ... and the stories ... and the food .... and they will likely fall asleep ~ perchance even standing up (our older son did). The little pleasures that we all take for granted will be special treats on Acceptance Day .... including, for our son, wearing his *own* glasses for the first time since he was issued his "beloved" TEDs (he didn't even attempt the contacts until Labor Day, as he was too tired!)
Yes, they will have homework to prepare ... and they may get itsy Sunday afternoon ... or they may decide to spend every possible minute with you, and stay up late on Sunday night!
IF however, you are not able to come for Acceptance Day, please rest assured that your son/daughter will be adopted by any number of families who are at West Point to visit their sons and daughters ... In 2001, very dear friends of ours were not able to come out for Acceptance Day (they did, however, come out for Labor Day).... We adopted their daughter for the weekend, and made sure that she was well fed, slept and had a phone available for a looooooooooong phone call home ....
Q: Please explain walking privileges. Is there any problem with booking a room at the Thayer Hotel for R-Day, A-Day, or Plebe Weekend? Someone mentioned that the New Cadets and Plebes may be restricted due to a problem with walking privileges.
A: If you have reservations at the Thayer Hotel, you won't need to worry about where the walking privilege area is because the hotel is right in the middle of it. The Thayer is pretty expensive for some people.
For R-day, you won't have to worry about the walking privilege area because your New Cadet won't have any time off once he/she reports in the morning.
For Acceptance [A-]Day, your New Cadet will have completed Cadet Basic Training and will most likely be allowed to take Walking Privileges. This means that he/she can leave the post but must stay within an area roughly bounded by the Hudson river on the east, Route 9W on the west, Washington gate on the north and the Bear Mt. traffic circle on the south. They can go anywhere within this area.
For Plebe Parent Weekend, your New Cadet will have "Off Post Privileges" which allows them to go a little farther.
Detailed information on all this on Plebe-net after about March 23 when the class of 2007 is allowed on that listserv.
Also, you are very smart to be making hotel reservations for any events that you already know the dates. There are very few close-in hotels to West Point and they get filled up early. I'll give you an example, my cadet graduates this June. I have had a room reserved at a local hotel since October of 1999 and had to pay in-full when I made that reservation...the up side is that my hotel is very close.
A: For years, Walking Privileges boundaries have been as follows:
North - The North side of the USMA post, out to Washington Gate, then following highway 218 past the golf course and ski slope to its intersection with highway 9W and highway 293.
West - Highway 9W. Businesses on the West side of highway 9W are within the boundary as long as they front directly on highway 9W
South - Where highway 9W meets the Bear Mountain Bridge traffic circle. An exception has been made for Bear Mountain State Park, which is directly across the traffic circle on the South side. As long as the cadet is driven to Bear Mountain State Park all parts of that park are open to the Cadet, including the Bear Mountain Inn, which is within the park.
East - The West bank of the Hudson River.
Also, Round Pond has been authorized as a place where cadets can go and be consider within the boundaries of Walking Priviliges. Round Pond is about a mile West of the intersection of Highways 218, 293, and 9W (the junction of the North and West boundary) but still has been authorized. As with the Bear Mountain State Park the cadet must be driven to this location.
I would expect that these boundaries will stay the same, however, cannot guarantee it. There is a new Commandant at USMA and lots of things have changed this year.
On Purchasing A PrinterA: During Plebe Parent Weekend there is another type of privilege authorized for plebes. That is "Off Post Privileges (OPP's)". For previous Plebe Parent Weekends plebes have been authorized OPP's with a restriction of travel to within 75 miles of West Point. Under OPP's plebes are authorized to travel to any location within 75 miles of West Point, including Cornwall. If things don't change then OPP's will probably again be authorized during Plebe Parent Weekend (and only during Plebe Parent Weekend) for plebes.
When your cadet leaves USMA to join you somewhere they must sign out in the Company Orderly Room. When they sign out they must indicate whether they are departing on "Walking Privileges" or "Off Post Privileges". What they write down describes what they can do.
Q: What type of printers have cadets purchased, and when do we take care of that purchase? I did read that there is a website I can check out and that the printer shouldn't be purchased prior to the end of August. Can cadets purchase one at West Point or do parents purchase one and then ship it out in August?
Plebe PayA: By R Day, the purchasing agent for the USMA Cadet Bookstore will have researched all printers that will be compatible with the chosen computer (specs are not out yet, and the computer contract will not be bid for quite some time) .... On R Day, Grace at the USMA Cadet Bookstore will have a table (USMA Cadet Bookstore) and the representative from the chosen company (last year it was HP) ... several models will be available for purchase by the parents with delivery to the new cadets upon their return from Camp Frederick at the end of Beast Barracks.
Grace has always had a rather long window in which parents can order, so that even parents who cannot attend R Day have the opportunity to purchase a printer at the low, discounted price she is able to offer. We, the moderators of Plebe Net, will be publishing that information for your benefit this summer. When our '04 son entered, we had to purchase by 9 August to ensure delivery by 15 August .... There will be a similar window of opportunity.
Printers are not required. However, they are a great convenience, and if you are financially able to purchase this "gift" for your son/daughter it will be very much appreciated. If it will create even the least financial hardship, it is not worth it. In our son's case, he was initially in a four man room. Only two of the four had printers .... and all in the room preferred our sons. They networked (I'm so glad THEY are computer literate) their computers, so they all shared the same printer .... Cadets always help each other out.
I would STRONGLY recommend, however, that if you plan on purchasing a printer, that you ONLY purchase one through Grace at the USMA Cadet Bookstore. That way, you are assured that it is compatible with the systems at WP, and most importantly, if something goes amiss with the printer, Grace will be the point person to get it fixed (rather than that additional burden falling on the cadet or you - long distance) ..., and will also be able to lend a printer to the cadet until his/her printer is fixed .... If you purchase it elsewhere, you are on your own ......
Q: What Are Plebes Paid?
Languages at West PointA: The present (February 2003) pay rate for Cadets is 35% of the base pay of a 2nd Lieutenant with less than two years of service. At the present time the gross monthly pay for a 2nd Lieutenant with less than two years of active duty service is $2,183.70 per month. A cadet is paid 35% of that or $764.30 per month.
After expenses are deducted from a Plebe's pay, present (February 2003) Plebe "take home pay" is $220 monthly.
The base pay and take home pay increase each year a Cadet is at the Academy.
Current Military Pay schedules are here.
Q: I want to go to West Point but it does not offer Japanese, which I study avidly. USAFA offers Japanese but I do not really want to go there. Any advice on this matter would be greatly appreciated.
A: West Point does not offer Japanese and has no plans to do so in the future - quite simply as the needs of the Army do NOT call for it. There will likely be increased emphasis on other languages and dialects, but Japanese will NOT factor into the program at West Point in the foreseeable future (and that is directly from the Dean, by the way)
As to whether you would have a need or use for it in the Army as opposed to the Air Force... possibly, but highly doubtful. The Air Force find it helpful as they have personnel stationed in Japan... the Army doesn't have such needs. Even in MI (military intelligence branch) we are really not in the "deep throat" context here.... plus, any Japanese MI officer would likely speak English! Need? Highly doubtful... However, knowledge of any language is helpful as a member of this global society, and the more languages you know, the more qualified you will be to tackle whatever challenges you find....
As to your age... You will hopefully be a plebe in 2006 - fingers and toes... that means you are currently a freshman in high school, correct? You have a long time to prepare - and this is the right time to ensure that you are taking the courses that you need to make yourself as attractive to USMA and to all other colleges, as possible. You may wish to contact your local MALO or field force rep, and start a mentoring relationship with them... or someone else who can guide you from through the long process and your ultimate goal. There is also an excellent book entitled something like The West Point Candidate: How to Prepare, How to Get In, How to Survive.... It is an excellent resource, and best referred to OFTEN during the high school years (good tips even on Congressional interviews, etc)... I lent my copy to someone, so don't have it in front of me, but can get the exact name and ordering information, should you desire. I have supplied our local high schools with copies of the book that I purchased - I thought it was *that* good and *that* important to have in each high school guidance office...
A: The USMA Prospectus may be read online and so may USMA Curriculuminformation.
A point of interest upon which you might ruminate is that when he was President of Washington College, now Washington and Lee University, in Lexington, VA, Robert E. Lee, USMA Class of 1829, felt that Spanish would become a widely used language in orbits of interest to United States leaders and citizens, and accordingly he urged students at Washington College to become proficient in that language. As on so many others, President Lee was prescient on this point.
I believe Spanish is now or soon will be accounted the second Lingua Franca, following English.