usma food

Not trying to steal the thread, but are cadets able to bring/buy/get supplements like creatine to help them stay healthy at WP?
Creatine doesn't really "help you stay healthy", but after beast you can have supplements. Creatine will really dehydrate you and is mainly just for increased performance, as soon as you stop taking it you won't be able to do as much because you won't have the same water stores in the muscles.


2019 WestPoint class appointee

Recipient of 4 year army rotc scholarship.
 
Scout & Civic, let me quote the banner. "This is a place to ask questions and give answers to general questions for prospective service academy members." Now where did I go wrong. I am sure you can illuminate me.
 
I don't want a cadet in my class to only be there because spaghetti was on the menu, I want him to be there because he wants to serve and give his best effort. If food is the difference that will affect his life and the lives and well being of others for the next 12 years I don't know if I want that kind of person standing by my side on Rday if all he's looking forward to is a good meal and a free education.


2019 WestPoint class appointee

Recipient of 4 year army rotc scholarship.
 
I've just reread the original post and, I'm speculating I know, but perhaps OP was concerned about how the menu offerings would effect OP's weight, or perhaps put OP's philosophical/religious beliefs under tension.
I'm only saying...can the forum help answer the question?
 
Scout & Civic, let me quote the banner. "This is a place to ask questions and give answers to general questions for prospective service academy members." Now where did I go wrong. I am sure you can illuminate me.

We answer questions. We also give advice and dispel myths and misconceptions. We have discussions and strive to provide advice and input that is in the best interest of the candidate and the SAs themselves.

If a candidate asked "Which SA will get me the biggest salary and maximize my chance of becoming a Senator?" or a young female said "Am I more likely to be able to marry a fighter pilot at USNA or USAFA?" would you fall all over yourself like a good little sycophant and offer up your thoughts on which SA to choose in the interest of his desire for money and power and her desire for her dream date? Or would you perhaps tell them get their noses back in joint about what the SAs' purpose is and tell them to seriously consider whether he wants to serve his country?

That's what I thought.
 
Not trying to steal the thread, but are cadets able to bring/buy/get supplements like creatine to help them stay healthy at WP?
Yes. Many will have parents send supplements and/or use online retail stores to order and have it sent, and Grant Hall does offer supplements. However, creatine "may" not be allowed. Its been proven ( And I don't want to start a whole big conversation about this) creatine makes muscle fibers less elastic and break. (NFL teams don;t allow it) The whole foods you consume will give you all the necessary nutrients you need. So its argued supplements are a waste of money.

Again, food is consumed for energy. When you are out in the field, you'll learn to consume MREs (Meals Ready to Eat). Its not home cooking but it will give the calories to push forward and stay hydrated. USMA food will never replace moms home cooking.

Mom is the only one who includes her secret ingredient into every dish; Love!

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I do know at Grant Hall they have a cool little shake machine. The shakes are in a cooler, you make your selection, take it over to another machine that whips it up and boom there it is!!

At 800 calories a serving!!!:eek3:

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We answer questions. We also give advice and dispel myths and misconceptions. We have discussions and strive to provide advice and input that is in the best interest of the candidate and the SAs themselves.

If a candidate asked "Which SA will get me the biggest salary and maximize my chance of becoming a Senator?" or a young female said "Am I more likely to be able to marry a fighter pilot at USNA or USAFA?" would you fall all over yourself like a good little sycophant and offer up your thoughts on which SA to choose in the interest of his desire for money and power and her desire for her dream date? Or would you perhaps tell them get their noses back in joint about what the SAs' purpose is and tell them to seriously consider whether he wants to serve his country?

That's what I thought.

Im gonna have to side with scoutpilot on this one......

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Didn't realize that this would be a big issue. It's not like I've even gotten into any of the service academies to join much less choose from. I was just wondering about the menu because to be honest I'm sort of picky in food choice and I've read that there's really no big difference between my top two choices (USMA and USNA) since they're both great academically and great officers have come out of each so I was just going to use food just as 50/50 tiebreaker if it went down to that. But then again, I will agree that it is premature for me to ask about it.
 
scoutpilot, I think you are being a bit aggressive on your verbal attack. Yes, I did ask about food, but there is a reason why the official webpages for the academies do post out their respective dining facilities. I was not trying to say that food would be my deciding factor, but rather trying to see what I was going to eat for the next few years. Also, your analogy is a bit flawed in my opinion; supposed I had asked about the salaries coming out of USNA vs USMA respectively, you probably would have also shot down my question like you have here. But you would have failed to give the benefit of the doubt; what if money was an issue to the respective candidate and his/her family? You knew nothing about my background or medical history before you responded to my dining question, yet that did not prevent you from verbally attacking me. Likewise, my concerns with dining is not comparable to that of your analogy; I don't know about you, but when I visit schools, I do visit the cafeteria because if I just cannot eat the food, yes, I do find it hard to spend my next 4 years living there. To me, food is of some significance (again, albeit very small) in deciding my future and because at this point I still have a choice between attending the service academy or going to a civilian school, I see no problem trying to wrestle out as much information as I possibly can from both sides before making my decision.
there is no reason to verbally attack others (calling someone a "sycophant") who are just trying to help me in the best way they can or to gloat ("that's what I thought"). if you have any issue, they should be addressed towards me, and me alone, not to those merely trying to help.
 
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I was not trying to say that food would be my deciding factor...

luckydoggy1234 said:
I was just going to use food just as 50/50 tiebreaker if it went down to that.
Huh.



luckydoggy1234 said:
supposed I had asked about the salaries coming out of USNA vs USMA respectively, you probably would have also shot down my question like you have here.

I would've told you that they're almost equal and that that is a horrible reason to choose one academy over another.

I just cannot eat the food, yes, I do find it hard to spend my next 4 years living there.

This leads me to think that you're probably better off not joining the military at all. If you just can't stand not having food you like, military service will not agree with you.
 
I might have to print out and frame this thread, this is gold.

Luckydoggy, I heard USNA gets the premium MREs, I'd choose them for sure.
 
Luckydoggy, I think your best bet is to ignore scoutpilot and to continue researching as much as you can about the academies. Don't let anyone discourage you! Attention to detail is the military way and it seems like you have that going for you.

Good luck with everything.
 
Luckydoggy, I think your best bet is to ignore scoutpilot and to continue researching as much as you can about the academies. Don't let anyone discourage you! Attention to detail is the military way and it seems like you have that going for you.

Good luck with everything.

Attention to detail is fine, depending on the detail, food quality at an academy as pointed out would be a detail that doesn't deserve much attention.

The OP hasn't stated any reason other then the quality of food, if food allergies were a concern it would be a moot point since he most likely would not make it through Dodmerb, if he has religious restrictions, he hasn't mentioned them, so I assume he just wants to know who has the best food.

To be honest if he hadn't posted again I would have thought the question was a joke. To use food quality as a factor, any factor, in which branch of the service to join is beyond most reasonable thinking. He may want to re-think the military if food is a concern before he gets introduced to MREs.

Ignoring a USMA alum and Major in the Army is not the best bet for new applicants to any branch. Nobody is discouraging the OP, just advising him to keep his priorities in check.
 
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