USMA lengthens service obligation to 6 yrs??

cb7893

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But, giving yourself an opportunity to command a company and develop Lieutenants is the epitome of leadership. Being responsible for up to 150 of America's sons and daughters is enormous. It gives you the opportunity to deeply understand logistics, manage an arms room, develop a maintenance program, develop and execute a training strategy, administer discipline through the Uniform Code of Military Justice, contribute to the fulfillment of the Battalion commander's mission and intent...among others.

These are meaningful things you should experience before deciding to leave the Army. There is a HUGE difference between leading a platoon and commanding a company.

I always encouraged officers to command a company before they depart.

I don't know anything about the change in service obligation...but 6 years means a couple of duty stations....and an opportunity to command.

An additional year...and an exponentially increased leadership experience.
This^ x1000.

A year may seem like a long time to an 18-19 year old, eager to keep moving to the next adventure. It may seem like a flash in time to an old guy like me. In any event, for most people, one's 20's are arguably the most critical years. Those are the years when one has an educational/work experience base to build upon as well as the energy, freedom and wide-eyed curiosity to fully exploit the opportunities. You carry that into your 30' and 40's which await you with ever decreasing amounts of freedom and latitude.

The military is unequalled as an employer in its willingness to heap "managerial" responsibility onto the shoulders of JO's, regardless of their commissioning source. Whether to goal is to be a lifer like @Soldiergriz or to get out into the civvie that extra experience is money in the bank.
 

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This is similar to the discussion earlier about AF pilots serving 10 years from flight school graduation. Army AV just recently extended the flight school ADSO from six to eight years for rotary that doesn't begin until you complete flight school. Its a separate ADSO from your commissioning source but effectively means you'll be on AD for the entire period of your commissioning ADSO. The ADSOs run concurrently (not added to one another).

Where can I find the recent change in ADSO for Army IERW? The Army website still states 6 years after completion of flight school.
 

Casey

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Where can I find the recent change in ADSO for Army IERW? The Army website still states 6 years after completion of flight school.
I'll see if I can find a link to send you that puts it into writing. This came from a brief I attended with MG Francis, the AV branch CG, within the last month.
 

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6 years is a pilot program. Only those applicants who indicated they would be willing to accept a 6 year commitment in previous surveys were selected for this commitment.
 

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6 years is a pilot program. Only those applicants who indicated they would be willing to accept a 6 year commitment in previous surveys were selected for this commitment.
Correct, but they thought they were taking a survey and were not told that it was a pilot program and that everyone else would only have a 5 year commitment. Reminds me how I felt on an airplane the last time I asked they guy in the seat next to me what he paid for his ticket. 🤢

Also, the methodology creates a grossly biased sample - unless they are trying to determine how truthfully people answer survey questions.
 

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Hate to bring this back to the top of the list again, but where would you find the letter that states 5 vs. 6? Does it only appear just before you accept or can you go back afterward and look at it? DS plans to be in for the long haul so he doesn't care, but I think he should probably be aware for future reference. No unkind comments about how he wasn't attentive to detail before he accepted, please. :)
 

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Those offered admission with a 6 year ADSO were RANDOMLY selected from the group of candidates (nearly 4000) who answered “yes” to the question on the candidate application of whether or not you were willing to serve on active duty for 6 years.

If you answered ‘yes’ your name went into the pool. A very small group of offered candidates has been put in this category. This is a study initiated by the Department of the Army. If you were offered an appointment with a 6 year ADSO and feel betrayed or snookered by the academy then simply decline the offer and allow someone else to step into your slot.
Wonder if the person declines the 6 year offer, will his/her alternate be offered 5 years? We will never know.
 
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The Senate Armed Committee wants a detailed report by Apr 2020 regarding possibly increasing the active duty service commitment for military academies. The 5 and dive increase is getting someone's attention in Washington D.C. with not only academy grads but also with ROTC full scholarship graduates as well. Perhaps the Army is getting a head start on this issue. And 6 years may not be enough.

I can't belief the gov't is actually taking an interest in seeing how tax money is being spent. Good for them, if they are.
 
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