USMAPS Congressional Nomination

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  1. jllera1

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    Hello, this is my 1st time asking a question, as I have been able to read through and get most of my questions answered. THANK YOU!!

    I am a mom of a HS Senior/Female that has completed her application for USMA. She just finished her Dodmerbs today. I had spoken with the Chief Operations person for the Congressman the day of her nomination interview and he mentioned that they only allow 1 nomination per candidate/per Academy...in other words the Senator's/Congressman's staff do not duplicate nomination to give more opportunities, so you couldn't get both a Nomination from a Senator & Congressman (I have read in these forums that this can happen, but it seems was not going to happen now). Anyways, she received a call from her USMA liaison (she was also on our Congressman's Board for Nomination and her husband works for WP in some capacity) and she called to congratulate her last week. She told her she had received a nomination. Needless to say... she was super excited. We stopped by the Congressman's office today to pick up a hard copy of the nomination, as she hadn't received one and was told by the same Chief Operations person that she was not high enough on the list, so the Liaison for USMA had recommended her to USMAP, as her Math scores was not good. I asked him, as I read, somewhere on the USMAPS, that a nomination was needed to be recommended to USMAPS, but he said they had done it for the past 8 yrs and they only recommend 1 candidate per year to USMAPS and have been successful for the 8 yrs. My daughter called her USMA Liaison and she said that she was in a good position to get USMAPS and to reach out to her Regional Commander, which she called, left a vm and sent an email, to further assist her going forward. My question is...how does this sound? Does anyone know when they will send out information on if she gets in? Any feedback is very appreciated.

    Here are her stats:

    ACT: 28 (English: 32; Math: 24; Reading: 30; Science: 28)
    SAT: 1190 (English: 650; Math: 540)
    GPA: 3.3 (3.6 weighted).
    Her class ranking is: 142/592.
    She is very involved in her MCJROTC at school and is the XO. She has oodles of awards, community service, etc. She did Volleyball for a year and is currently taking Kickboxing.

    Thank you :)
     
  2. tug_boat

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    A couple of things to consider. You don't need a NOM for USMAPS, however you do when you finish. The NOM source can recommend MAPS, however, your DD must be considered by admissions academically DQ'd.

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  3. jllera1

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    Thank you tug_boat. The Congressman's Chief Operation person said she would be their Prim-Nom, once she successfully completes USMAPS. You think she would qualify to USMAPS with her stats? She has one more SAT & ACT to go, before they said the cut off was, so fingers crossed she brings up the Math. I have her being tutored for it this time.
     
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    Let me add to my previous post.......and for others who are reading this. USMAPS is reserved for those who need to be brought up to academic standards. WP has set trends for recruited athletes, prior enlisted and underrepresented candidates. Trends, meaning things are fluid. You can not apply to MAPS, only recommended and must be academically disqualified. Attending MAPS is conditional, which means you must have improvement to pass academic standards, physical standards and you will need a NOM.

    If you are not selected to attend MAPS, please research the civilian prep schools like NWP, MMI, NMMI, Grey Stone and many others. They are all different and you need to find one that fits you. Attending a civilian prep school may be a "Free Agent" which means, you are footing the bill (scholarships and grants are available) or "Sponsored". Sponsored students have received a AoG scholarship. (West Point) Assc of Graduates offers 45 to 50 scholarships a year for students recommend by their RC, FFL or admissions.

    Please research your Plan B and work on it!

    Push Hard, Press Forward
     
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  5. Mere2033

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    This is what I foresee happening with my DD. She has her congressional nomination interview this weekend. She has a 4.05 weighted GPA but 1200 sat score 630 math, 570 English. ACT 28 math 25 English. she's a huge athlete and strong leader but ultimately the scores are what will get her in the end. Luckily, she would happily attend USMAPS.
     
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    Thank you. I understand. She has Plan A, B, C and D... I was curious to find out when they let the Candidates for USMAPS know. Anyone know???
     
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    I actually thing it is an awesome opportunity and gives them that extra push, along with being even better prepared for USMA. I have read so many posts on how it helped them and even more so than others who went straight through. Fingers crossed for our DD's :)
     
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  10. Teragram

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    DD got contacted by her RC yesterday asking if she would consider USMAPS should she not get a direct appointment. She has very high GPA in honors/AP/dual enrollment classes, high English SAT and ACT scores, varsity sports, leadership and good CFA...just struggling with Math. She is taking both tests again this month to try and get Math up, but if she does not she would be thrilled to have opportunity for a prep year. Sounds like they are starting to put some of the puzzle pieces together now that Noms are starting to roll in!
     
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    My understanding from my DD's USMA Liasion is that unless she would get a Prim-nom or maybe rank #2 that the better option is to be recommended for USMAPS, because over 80% went from USMAPS to USMA this year and she said that since she was also on the Congressional board that for the last 8 yrs USMAPS has accepted the 1 person that they have recommended, so we are hopeful. We are just curious to see if anyone knows when the candidates for USMAPS will know for sure. Anyone know when it happened for the class of 2020???
     
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    After reading some further posts regarding USMAPS, I was confused by what was potentially hurting DD because although not her strongest score, her math test score was not below the qualifying level (she has a 26). We assumed it must have been the reason for RC asking about prep because the rest of her file is strong and the math score was not in the 25-75% of previous class profiles. We did not realize that in order to be considered for USMAPS you had to be 2Q and not the 3Q which we had assumed she was with a LOE (after complete app), cleared DODMERB and CFA pass. Now we were really confused how she would ever qualify for prep, so she contacted her RC and asked for further clarification. SURPRISE! The WRITING score can be used to disqualify a candidate and make them eligible for USMAPS if they feel an extra year of academics would better prepare them for plebe year. She has above average verbal scores on both ACT and SAT but as her RC put it scored a little low on essay section. We had NO IDEA they used writing section for anything other than placements and no one ever discusses what scores would be below, at or above average. She only took essay portion once for each test and we have no clue what is considered qualifying in that area...any thoughts?
     
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  14. Teragram

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    To add she actually was feeling good about an opportunity to attend USMAPS as she does worry about the math and only having through pre-calculus in high school. She was excited about having a year to strengthen her skills and feel better prepared...guess things will work out as they are supposed to but funny it isn't the math score that may provide her the opportunity
     
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  15. Mere2033

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    That's interesting. I would never have thought of the essay. I don't think my DD did that well. 18 out of 24 I think. She scores low in English and higher in math so prep is very likely.
     
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    We gave no thought to the writing portion either! It is the forgotten test score
     
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    I think we need to start a USMAPS class of 2021 roster :) I know my DD will benefit from it. She got a 98% in her jr. year for her pre-calculus honors class, but she had the 4 math and decided to take 4 AP classes and 4 JROTC this year. Math is a really stong subject for her, and always has been, but she scored low on both ACT & SAT, so maybe a blessing in disguise. Should she even take them again? I was going to get her a tutor and she was going to take them again, but what happens if she gets a great score???
     
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  18. Teragram

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    DD retakes SAT this Saturday and has been really prepping hard for Math but now we find out this! Oops. She has always been strong in math also but during sophomore year Algebra II she struggled with a teaching style and feels she had a gap going into pre-calculus junior year and in turn struggled through that (only grades on transcript under 90). She opted out of AP Calculus this year and is taking Dual Enrollment Statistics knowing she didn't have a strong foundation and feared it would affect her other AP and dual enrollment classes this year if all her time was spent concentrating on trying to pass Calculus. She is taking a college algebra class on her own next semester through community college to fill in the gaps and then planned to retake pre-calculus first semester of college. Whether it's because of writing or math I truly believe she could greatly benefit from a prep year. She is also young (just turned 17) so another year of maturity wouldn't hurt either!
     
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    I completely agree with you Teragram. My DD too just turned 17 yrs a few mos ago. I think a prep year will not only help them, but once they get into USMA they will already be one step ahead on all of the rules, regulations and customs, along with their academics , of course.
     
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    Hello all, sorry for posting on an older thread but I have a question pertaining to the prep school and nominations. A few days ago my congressman released his slate of nominations to the press. On the slate was a student who currently attends the prep school. Does that mean this person is automatically going to win the slate?

    Thanks!
     

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