USMAPS Info/Homeschoolers

FYI, ArmyStrong7, if you go to Page 4 of "Sad news Part 2" in the AFA section of the forum, you will see that USMA2020 was taken to task there as well. She is a new member and you are fairly new yourself, but this is a very gracious and helpful place to ask questions and seek information, however, folks' patience does wear thin after a while. I think it's always advisable to "lurk" a while before joining in any forum or community.
 
ArmyStrong7 said:
I already know what the military looks like. I've lived on Marine bases, I am currently in ROTC at my University, and *hint hint* I came from USMAPS being constantly surrounded by the Army, being put in multiple leadership positions, constantly surrounded by prior service men who have been deployed, had a 3 week basic training, and I lived at West Point for almost a year. I'm not on this thread for me, I'm on here for USMA2020. If you want to talk about my life, experiences, and background then you can send me a private message. As a matter of fact, why are you even bringing me up? We are talking about the way YOU, a GROWN man, are approaching a little 14 year old girl, not the way a 19 year old woman tried to stand up for her because she felt you were being a little disrespectful. If you were directing your previous comments to me then this conversation would have most definitely been held differently. There's a difference between approaching me and approaching her, especially since she just joined the forum. She really does not know any better and you just need to understand that. Like I've said previously: The way you approached this girl was unnecessary and immature. I'm not calling you immature, but your action was immature. I am not going to judge you based off your comments towards me and her, like the way you are judging us, because I was raised to leave the judging to someone higher. I am leaving this thread because you really are not worth wasting my time anymore and I don't want to continue to stir anything up. If you have a problem, then I ask you to respectfully approach me at a different time so we can discuss this problem. Other than that have a nice day.
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Hard to argue with the voice of such deep experience. Now climb down off the cross, please. Wood is in short supply.

If you think telling someone to google something is somehow mean or disrespectful, then I've got nothing for you. It's life. It's reality. Was it sarcastic? A bit, yes. I stand by that. Sarcasm is an effective tool for making lessons stick. It was also a graphic illustration of just how simply and readily her questions could be answered through her own efforts.

This forum, like any, isn't an information catering service. As others have already pointed out, taking up for yourself and showing initiative is step one. If she cares that much about the academy, she'll take the hint and jump in with both feet. If not, she won't. Simple as that.

Good luck on whatever happens next.
 
Ashleigh,
As a homeschooling mom, perhaps I can give you some practical advice. First, get on the website for USMA and see what they have to say about applying and what the requirements are for homeschoolers. If it's anything like USNA, the requirements are pretty much the same as for traditionally schooled candidates. I don't know if you are doing any online classes, or if your mom is teaching you, but she may need to provide course descriptions for all of your classes to include with your transcript when the time comes. It will be much easier for her to do this as you progress through high school than to wait until your senior year. Since you have no class rank, your SAT or ACT scores are going to be critical. Take a prep course, and/or get some prep books and work on getting those scores as high as possible. You should find some way to participate in extracurriculars - if not through public school, then through a private school or your community. Check into Civil Air Patrol, Sea Cadets, or Young Marines. What about Girl Scouts? 4H? How about serving in your church, or doing a community service project - preferably leading it yourself? Community sports teams or clubs, martial arts, 5k or 10k runs, cycling, swimming - these things don't have to be in a public school setting. You want to be able to show USMA that you are physically fit, and that you are a leader.
 
OK, I appreciate the way that people have stood up for me, but I am tired of the mud flying. I have been told very NICELY what I was doing, have apologized to the moderators, and I won't be doing that anymore. So, unless you have helpful comments can we please stop the dirt slinging? And thanks again to those who have stood up for me and left helpful comments.

Ashleigh
 
futuremarinemom said:
Ashleigh,
As a homeschooling mom, perhaps I can give you some practical advice. First, get on the website for USMA and see what they have to say about applying and what the requirements are for homeschoolers. If it's anything like USNA, the requirements are pretty much the same as for traditionally schooled candidates. I don't know if you are doing any online classes, or if your mom is teaching you, but she may need to provide course descriptions for all of your classes to include with your transcript when the time comes. It will be much easier for her to do this as you progress through high school than to wait until your senior year. Since you have no class rank, your SAT or ACT scores are going to be critical. Take a prep course, and/or get some prep books and work on getting those scores as high as possible. You should find some way to participate in extracurriculars - if not through public school, then through a private school or your community. Check into Civil Air Patrol, Sea Cadets, or Young Marines. What about Girl Scouts? 4H? How about serving in your church, or doing a community service project - preferably leading it yourself? Community sports teams or clubs, martial arts, 5k or 10k runs, cycling, swimming - these things don't have to be in a public school setting. You want to be able to show USMA that you are physically fit, and that you are a leader.
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I am working on those things and plan to talk to the admissions officer as soon as possible. Thanks so much.

Ashleigh
 
scoutpilot said:
Hard to argue with the voice of such deep experience. Now climb down off the cross, please. Wood is in short supply.

If you think telling someone to google something is somehow mean or disrespectful, then I've got nothing for you. It's life. It's reality. Was it sarcastic? A bit, yes. I stand by that. Sarcasm is an effective tool for making lessons stick. It was also a graphic illustration of just how simply and readily her questions could be answered through her own efforts.

This forum, like any, isn't an information catering service. As others have already pointed out, taking up for yourself and showing initiative is step one. If she cares that much about the academy, she'll take the hint and jump in with both feet. If not, she won't. Simple as that.

Good luck on whatever happens next.
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As for you, it was pretty rude, and I considered sending you the same thing back, and as I said, I am tired of the rude comments. Please get back on topic.

Ashleigh
 
Dixieland said:
Ashleigh, bookmark this page and keep an eye out for updates: http://portal.dean.usma.edu/admissions/Pages/SoutheastEventsMain.aspx When an admissions event comes to your area, grab your parents and go. There will be plenty of folks available to speak with your family, excellent videos, and folders of information to take home and look at.

West Point likes go-getters. Jump on these obstacles and take action. You will see on the forum that plenty of candidates go to schools that don't employ class ranks and West Point has a way to work around that. Your SAT/ACT scores will figure in that so when the time comes to take these tests, prepare in advance and knock 'em dead!

Finally, you end most of your posts by mentioning that your mother doesn't want to get involved with the public schools. What exactly does this mean?
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Thanks. Not to brag, but I did get a 1320 in 7th grade, which got me state-wide recognition. So I am definitely working on that.

That is another thing I am dropping now, but the truth is, I have been home schooled all my life, the school system set up in SC allows them to not know I exist and with some pretty bad things going on with political leaders getting into disputes here over the issue, my mom is just worried about getting things messed up.

Ashleigh
 
scoutpilot said:
From the mouths of babes...
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Please look at the PM. You are being exceptionally rude, and I am not going to back down on this. I have been cussed out, in my face, with words that I don't even like to think, and walked away, saying only for them to have a good day. I am not angry, but this is getting ridiculous. I am laughing right now.

Ashleigh
 
USMA2020 said:
Please look at the PM. You are being exceptionally rude, and I am not going to back down on this. I have been cussed out, in my face, with words that I don't even like to think, and walked away, saying only for them to have a good day. I am not angry, but this is getting ridiculous. I am laughing right now.

Ashleigh
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I'm not sure what the point of that anecdote is supposed to be, or why you feel as though something in this thread is akin to a vicious attack or exceptional rudeness.

Again, this forum is both an instructive and informative place. Both functions are vital to helping candidates decipher the process of becoming a member of a service academy. Part of that process has to be a candidate becoming intimately involved in the process of gathering and sharing information.

Hopefully you've gathered that point now, as it's been reiterated to you in several threads.

Of course, as always, if you've generated any specific questions, you should ask them.
 
My point was, don't expect me to back down. I can see where I worded that badly. You are much better than that.

I know that, but I don't appreciate rudeness, and incinuating that I don't know how to google something is pretty ridiculous.

Yes, and by MOST in a very nice way.

That goes without saying. Although I may do them in PMs until things cool down, as someone has offered me that option. I am working on research right now, but mostly I am trying to work as I have been told to do.

Ashleigh
 
ArmyStrong7 said:
I already know what the military looks like. I've lived on Marine bases, I am currently in ROTC at my University, and *hint hint* I came from USMAPS being constantly surrounded by the Army, being put in multiple leadership positions, constantly surrounded by prior service men who have been deployed, had a 3 week basic training, and I lived at West Point for almost a year. I'm not on this thread for me, I'm on here for USMA2020. If you want to talk about my life, experiences, and background then you can send me a private message. As a matter of fact, why are you even bringing me up? We are talking about the way YOU, a GROWN man, are approaching a little 14 year old girl, not the way a 19 year old woman tried to stand up for her because she felt you were being a little disrespectful. If you were directing your previous comments to me then this conversation would have most definitely been held differently. There's a difference between approaching me and approaching her, especially since she just joined the forum. She really does not know any better and you just need to understand that. Like I've said previously: The way you approached this girl was unnecessary and immature. I'm not calling you immature, but your action was immature. I am not going to judge you based off your comments towards me and her, like the way you are judging us, because I was raised to leave the judging to someone higher. I am leaving this thread because you really are not worth wasting my time anymore and I don't want to continue to stir anything up. If you have a problem, then I ask you to respectfully approach me at a different time so we can discuss this problem. Other than that have a nice day.
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BTW, this was an awesome post, and I appreciated it. I wish I could come back that well.

Ashleigh
 
Dixieland said:
FYI, ArmyStrong7, if you go to Page 4 of "Sad news Part 2" in the AFA section of the forum, you will see that USMA2020 was taken to task there as well. She is a new member and you are fairly new yourself, but this is a very gracious and helpful place to ask questions and seek information, however, folks' patience does wear thin after a while. I think it's always advisable to "lurk" a while before joining in any forum or community.
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I am not sure that I understand what you mean. And I personally spent several months looking at this forum off and on before joining. Don't think you are criticizing, but I do agree, and want to find out what this means. I am trying hard to learn.

Ashleigh
 
USMA2020 said:
My point was, don't expect me to back down. I can see where I worded that badly. You are much better than that.
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I think you've mistaken this for some sort of contest or fight. It's not. You can get as mad at me as you want. You can call me a great big doodoohead. As we like to say, usually jokingly, "I got mine." My USMA degree is hanging on my wall. If you want to call me a chowderface and hate me forever, it doesn't affect me. If you want to "not back down" in the face of some imaginary contest, that's also fine. Again, Scoutpilot's world is intact.

Or...if you want to maximize your gain from this forum, heed the advice several people have given you.

Succes is at least 50% technique...
 
I wasn't being sarcastic, and I don't doubt that. I am not mad at you in the least, although I thought you were mad at me. I would appreciate it if you could tell me exactly where you stand. I am not trying to pick a fight, I just thought that you were. I really prefer not to fight. I also would prefer it if we could discuss this in a private message instead of publicly. Just to be honest, I feel like I started this and made a big mess. I have done my best to fix it, have contacted the moderators concerning MY mistakes, I realize where I have messed up, and I hope that you aren't angry with me. I take full responsibility for my lack of thought in posting, and anything that I may have done to offend anyone. My world is intact also, and I hope that we can start over and act like this never happened. In fact I would prefer it be taken down, because I have acted childish in some, OK a lot of my posting, and I wish I hadn't.

Thanks,
Ashleigh
 
scoutpilot said:
I think you've mistaken this for some sort of contest or fight. It's not. You can get as mad at me as you want. You can call me a great big doodoohead. As we like to say, usually jokingly, "I got mine." My USMA degree is hanging on my wall. If you want to call me a chowderface and hate me forever, it doesn't affect me. If you want to "not back down" in the face of some imaginary contest, that's also fine. Again, Scoutpilot's world is intact.

Or...if you want to maximize your gain from this forum, heed the advice several people have given you.

Succes is at least 50% technique...
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Scout - Just a personal question if you don't mind. Do you have children?
 
Folks...

I'm not the MOD for this thread but...enough.

Back on topic please; the personal "issues/comments/seconds" here need to go offline or just end.

Steve
 
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