USNA and minorities

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I am a minority and have been researching how much your ethnic background affect it has on your application. Generally seen people talking about black and hispanic when talking about minorities at the academy. Are asians and pacific islanders considered different? I don't mean any disrespect, I am just wondering why asians and pacific islanders are not usually mentioned.
 
I am a minority and have been researching how much your ethnic background affect it has on your application. Generally seen people talking about black and hispanic when talking about minorities at the academy. Are asians and pacific islanders considered different? I don't mean any disrespect, I am just wondering why asians and pacific islanders are not usually mentioned.

I could be wrong, but I don't think that asians are considered minorities anymore.
 
I could be wrong, but I don't think that asians are considered minorities anymore.
Of course they are. It is just that they are not targeted since the Academy receives sufficient quality applications to meet the desired goals.
 
Mongo's on the money. I don't believe being a Korean or Samoan lends any priority or allowance for alternative standards ... unless he can run a 4.4 forty or fling it like the Throwin' Samoan! If so? Who was that QB?
 
wondering if anyone know which groups are the Underrepresented minorities? African Americans,. Hispanics, Native Americans? I have read the forums about "targeted minorities" Can anyone clarify?
 
throwin samoan

Jack Thompson from Washington State (a cougar), played pro...can't remember which team. I sawhim throw one 70 yds in the air right into the bread box.
 
Of course they are. It is just that they are not targeted since the Academy receives sufficient quality applications to meet the desired goals.

As more of us that are not interested in contributing to the 20percent+ Asian student population at Ivies, some of us will consider a SA as where we want to be.

Not to be racist, but under common intense family academic pressures, many of us do fairly well academically. My graduating class is all Asian for top 12 ranking (out of 248).

I would not worry about whether you are or or not a minority. If you are, do not let others think you were less qualified. If you are not a minority, work harder to make yourself stand out.
 
Just at thought

My kid plans to apply. She is female. She has reads the threads on this site and asked about minority consideration. I told her those with the appointments are the only minority. Those without an appointment are the majority. She better have her act together and be prepared to compete on her record. Doing it any other way is just an excuse to be substandard.
 
Frankly I think all candidates (to any school) should revieve a number and let their application speak for its self.... why should race even be a question?
 
Frankly I think all candidates (to any school) should revieve a number and let their application speak for its self.... why should race even be a question?

I can't speak for other schools but, at the Naval Academy, racial diversity has been mandated from above.
 
^^^

However, it should be noted that what was communicated to BGOs is that USNA must make more efforts to find talented, highly-qualified minorities. These individuals exist but may not know about USNA, may not have considered USNA, etc. And the traditional recruiting efforts were arguably not finding these individuals.

The mandate was not to grab anyone off the street because they happen to be a minority.
 
Most colleges strive to put together a diverse class each year. Diverse in many respects: race, gender, backgrounds, talents and ambitions. It is not a perfect science and maybe as much an art as science. At the most competitive colleges these selected candidates are all smart, hard-working people capable of being future leaders and innovators in many different roles. Take a look at some of the best companies on the planet - AAPL, GE, JPM and DIS to name a few - they all have diversity programs and even offices. It is not because they are trying to be PC - they consider it to be a competitive advantage. The idea being that bringing together a diverse group of people with different backgrounds and talents and having them work towards a common goal creates a more innovative and stronger company. I don't have any insight into the inner workings of the admissions board but I'd bet that they believe all the selected candidates are capable of being productive future military leaders. At the same time they have certain mandates to follow and needs to consider when selecting applicants. I was at the Navy/Delaware game the other week and noticed the cheerleaders - I thought "oh yeah they need cheerleaders as well as football players. I wonder who didn’t get in because they needed a cheerleader.”
But I’m sure the cheerleaders (both male and female) are also perfectly capable of making great future military officers.
 
My kid plans to apply. She is female. She has reads the threads on this site and asked about minority consideration. I told her those with the appointments are the only minority. Those without an appointment are the majority. She better have her act together and be prepared to compete on her record. Doing it any other way is just an excuse to be substandard.


What a superb lesson you have imparted to your daughter, Craig. She's lucky to have you.
 
My DS is classified as a URM. He is associated with the URM group with the least representation at most schools. He is 3Q from what we have been told with a nom. We have NOT seen ANY favoritism given to him by the USNA admissions process to date. No LOA or appointment yet. (has had a 100% completed app since Aug)

What we HAVE seen is a lot of "special" interest from civilian universities. Phone calls offering to "help him complete his application... encouraging him to do so ASAP"... and so on.

Just wanted to share the experience we have had thus far. If the USNA gives any bump for being a URM, it has not been shown to us so far. The civilian colleges have been much more aggressive!
 
My kid plans to apply. She is female. She has reads the threads on this site and asked about minority consideration. I told her those with the appointments are the only minority. Those without an appointment are the majority. She better have her act together and be prepared to compete on her record. Doing it any other way is just an excuse to be substandard.


Good quote! I may use this one in the future! :thumb:
 
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