USNA Class of 2027 Waiting and Speculating

NavyBrazilUSA said:
Hi everyone, so my DS got 3Q and principal Nom congresswoman, how long will it take for us to be happy?
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That’s an unknown. No one here can tell you. During my son’s cycle, we knew a principle nominee to USNA that did not receive an appointment. USNA is not legally bound to offer appointments to principle nominees.

My question is how do you know your kiddo is 3Q? Typically USNA doesn’t tell applicants that information.

Regardless, hang in there. And support your kiddo tending to plans B-Z.
 
NavyBrazilUSA said:
Hi everyone, so my DS got 3Q and principal Nom congresswoman, how long will it take for us to be happy?
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Good deal to have a principal nom.

USNA usually doesn’t inform candidates they are fully qualified or “3Q.” The physical/CFA and medical/DoDMERB are the obvious two of the three qual factors. The academic, for want of a better term, generally includes the other aspects of the application that are evaluated. The nom, of course, is an additional admin requirement, and your son has that nicely covered, as principal noms force SAs to offer that candidate an appointment if found fully qualified, no matter how he or she compares to other candidates on the slate in USNA’s own ranking. Technically, the statutory language for USNA doesn’t absolutely require USNA to do this, but they usually do.

I think you can be hopeful but not absolutely certain. You can still wait until April or May, but those elected official slates start getting resolved in Feb-Mar. Continue to tend alternate plans. Your son should answer calls on his phone and set up a professional voicemail prompt, just in case the elected official decides to call (it’s their choice).

We’ll keep an eye on the appointment thread! Good luck!
 
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I just found out that someone from my congressional district who also got a nomination to USNA is being recruited for football. I know usually only 1 person from each district gets in from the MOC nomination. Is there any hope for me? I only got a nomination from my MOC.
 
justchillin said:
I just found out that someone from my congressional district who also got a nomination to USNA is being recruited for football. I know usually only 1 person from each district gets in from the MOC nomination. Is there any hope for me? I only got a nomination from my MOC.
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This is a misnomer. Several applicants can get in from the same MOC district. Just because you have heard they are being recruited doesn’t mean they are academically or physically qualified, are medically qualified, and nailed their application. You can’t see their teacher evaluation or their personal candidate statements. You don’t know the overall strength or weakness of their application. You don’t know how their interview went.

Let it go and control what you can.
 
Heatherg21 said:
This is a misnomer. Several applicants can get in from the same MOC district. Just because you have heard they are being recruited doesn’t mean they are academically or physically qualified, are medically qualified, and nailed their application. You can’t see their teacher evaluation or their personal candidate statements. You don’t know the overall strength or weakness of their application. You don’t know how their interview went.

Let it go and control what you can.
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I think they already got their appointment. I know I can't do anything now but just curious. Would someone be able to explain how multiple people get in from one district? Thanks.
 
Capt MJ said:
Good deal to have a principal nom.

USNA usually doesn’t inform candidates they are fully qualified or “3Q.” The physical/CFA and medical/DoDMERB are the obvious two of the three qual factors. The academic, for want of a better term, generally includes the other aspects of the application that are evaluated. The nom, of course, is an additional admin requirement, and your son has that nicely covered, as principal noms force SAs to offer that candidate an appointment if found fully qualified, no matter how he or she compares to other candidates on the slate in USNA’s own ranking. Technically, the statutory language for USNA doesn’t absolutely require USNA to do this, but they usually do.

I think you can be hopeful but not absolutely certain. You can still wait until April or May, but those elected official slates start getting resolved in Feb-Mar. Continue to tend alternate plans. Your son should answer calls on his phone and set up a professional voicemail prompt, just in case the elected official decides to call (it’s their choice).

We’ll keep an eye on the appointment thread! Good luck!
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Thank you so much ! Just adding I guess an 1300 SAT, being 85% in his IB class and captain of swimming team may fully qualify him right? But now I understand the details of 3Q. Thanks again, also applied for NROTC.
 
Heatherg21 said:
That’s an unknown. No one here can tell you. During my son’s cycle, we knew a principle nominee to USNA that did not receive an appointment. USNA is not legally bound to offer appointments to principle nominees.

My question is how do you know your kiddo is 3Q? Typically USNA doesn’t tell applicants that information.

Regardless, hang in there. And support your kiddo tending to plans B-Z.
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I now understand that the third Q is academics, we then “think” he is as he is in IB program, GPA and SAT above average. We really do not understand the system as this is all new. Sorry for stating something wrong
 
justchillin said:
I think they already got their appointment. I know I can't do anything now but just curious. Would someone be able to explain how multiple people get in from one district? Thanks.
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Start with reading the note pinned at the top of the Nominations forum. Browse that forum. This topic comes up again and again every year, and has already been popping up since last fall.

- Candidates on a slate may have gotten noms from other sources, and that is where their appointment is being charged to.
- USNA may choose other fully qualified candidates off the slate and defer them an appointment, but they charge it to nom authorities they control. Not the MOC.
- One candidate on that slate will have their appointment charged to that MOC.

Please assure us you applied for the VP nom.
 
NavyBrazilUSA said:
I now understand that the third Q is academics, we then “think” he is as he is in IB program, GPA and SAT above average. We really do not understand the system as this is all new. Sorry for stating something wrong
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Not to worry - good to come here and get clarification. No one knows the formula used by USNA to evaluate the whole candidate, the weight assigned to leadership roles and programs, sports participation, etc., all that stuff aside from the usual stats.
 
Capt MJ said:
Start with reading the note pinned at the top of the Nominations forum. Browse that forum. This topic comes up again and again every year, and has already been popping up since last fall.

- Candidates on a slate may have gotten noms from other sources, and that is where their appointment is being charged to.
- USNA may choose other fully qualified candidates off the slate and defer them an appointment, but they charge it to nom authorities they control. Not the MOC.
- One candidate on that slate will have their appointment charged to that MOC.

Please assure us you applied for the VP nom.
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Thanks for the info. I'll check out that forum. And yes, I did apply for the VP nom.
 
NavyBrazilUSA said:
I now understand that the third Q is academics, we then “think” he is as he is in IB program, GPA and SAT above average. We really do not understand the system as this is all new. Sorry for stating something wrong
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Don’t be sorry!!! It’s okay to ask and to not know. This process is crazy!
 
Capt MJ said:
Not to worry - good to come here and get clarification. No one knows the formula used by USNA to evaluate the whole candidate, the Wright assigned to leadership roles and programs, sports participation, etc., all that stuff aside from the usual stats.
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Thank you
 
NavyBrazilUSA said:
Thank you so much ! Just adding I guess an 1300 SAT, being 85% in his IB class and captain of swimming team may fully qualify him right? But now I understand the details of 3Q. Thanks again, also applied for NROTC.
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That sounds fairly typical, so he’s in good company with hundreds of other applicants.

The stark truth is that each year, hundreds of fully qualified applicants with excellent stats and a nom, are not offered appointments. There is simply not enough room in the class.

That principal nom should be enough to snag him the appointment if he can float over that last “Q” bar.
 
Capt MJ said:
That sounds fairly typical, so he’s in good company with hundreds of other applicants.

The stark truth is that each year, hundreds of fully qualified applicants with excellent stats and a nom, are not offered appointments. There is simply not enough room in the class.

That principal nom should be enough to snag him the appointment if he can float over that last “Q” bar.
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Any chance to know the minimum requirements for the last Q bar?
 
Your best shot at these metrics is looking at the stats for the class of 2026, 2025, and 2024.

Each year USNA shares the ‘class profile’ an easy web search.

See where your stats sit in comparison to those who received their offer of appointment. Bear in mind there are intangibles you cannot see and admissions considers with each applicant.
 
Capt MJ said:
Nope. Admissions has various class-building goals, and each year, assembles a unique puzzle from an overflowing box of top-quality puzzle pieces. They do not publish their whole candidate scoring algorithm.
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In that case… I‘ll keep on praying !
 
When placed on the NWL do they just accept by overall score or do they still take into account geographic location and other factors like that?
 
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