VMI/The Citadel/Norwich Question?

I am currently a senior. But i am worried i wont get accepted into any SMC. I plan to recieve a comission in the navy. I considered applying to norwich but VMI has been my first choice. If i applied with the following, would i have somewhat of a chance to get accepted right after highschool?

- 2.5 weighted gpa
- 150 community hours in library and church
- 1450 SAT overall score
- been to multiple clubs at my school
- Have taken honors classes throughout my Highschool along with one AP class. Junior year i had Cs in my honors.
- Sports: Swimming, Tennis, and Baseball (outside of school)
- Reccomendations from 1 Former army officer who was my sophmore teacher, and someone currently attending there.


What would you consider my chances of getting accepted? I live in Florida so im out-of-state.
 

repatriot

Banned
Florida,
In the order of toughest acceptance rates:
VMI --53%
Norwich--65.7%
Citadel--75.5%
So just scratching the surface I'd say your chances of acceptance to VMI are tough...
However, Norwich or Citadel may be good options for you. I'd also look at North Georgia, Texas A&M, and Virginia Tech.
Understand there is more to this story than just the acceptance rates. For example, VMI keeps the ratio at over 60% of it's cadets must matriculate from Virginia, so out-of-state applicant acceptance is more like 30%...
Remember, these schools are after the most "well-rounded" students, so if you want to go, I say apply where you think you will succeed and see what feedback you receive. Never know unless you apply...
Good Luck.
 

Lawman32RPD

5-Year Member
If you put in the terms "freshman profile NAME OF SCHOOL" into most search engines you can get a look at what the statistics are for each school. That said, the "average" means about 50% had better scores and about 50% had lower scores. When our kids were going through it I liked the information I got from the college data site, I think it is collegedata.com but I could be wrong - like I said, hunt around a bit and you'll get the information. Those scores are under the averages for Texas A&M and Virginia Tech. If you are senior in high school the application deadline has long past for most of these schools for the fall, 2017 semester. Try to visit a school - it is worth the investment of time and money. Talk to your parents about what is and what is not financially possible - the cost of out-of-state students is roughly equivalent to that of many private institutions. If the Virginia Military Institute is what you want - talk to the admission staff; but again, if you haven't already applied it is most likely too late for the fall, 2017 semester. There are many paths to the top of the mountain. If you are interested in commissioning into the Navy consider the maritime colleges such as the State University of New York Maritime College; Massachusetts and Maine Maritime Academies, and the Texas Maritime Academy (TMA). TMA is located at the Texas A&M University Galveston campus and has an NROTC detachment. Good luck.
 
Florida,
In the order of toughest acceptance rates:
VMI --53%
Norwich--65.7%
Citadel--75.5%
So just scratching the surface I'd say your chances of acceptance to VMI are tough...
However, Norwich or Citadel may be good options for you. I'd also look at North Georgia, Texas A&M, and Virginia Tech.
Understand there is more to this story than just the acceptance rates. For example, VMI keeps the ratio at over 60% of it's cadets must matriculate from Virginia, so out-of-state applicant acceptance is more like 30%...
Remember, these schools are after the most "well-rounded" students, so if you want to go, I say apply where you think you will succeed and see what feedback you receive. Never know unless you apply...
Good Luck.
So the best chance i have is getting accepted at the citadel or norwich? And basically its nearly impossible of getting accepted into VMI? Ive looked on this website, and it shows that people with 3.0 gpa gets accepted. Thats a downer.
 

Citadel1986

New Member
Florida,

A couple of notes here: VMI and The Citadel are state supported schools. With that, they must accept the majority of the incoming class from in state. One person stated 60% for VMI and the last time I checked it was 50% for The Citadel.

I graduated from The Citadel and it is a wonderful place to go to school as it has a very large corp of cadets and is located in a beautiful city. Alumni association is very strong and supportive of each other.

VMI is a bit smaller and located in a rural area though it's corp of cadets also makes up the student body of the school as with Norwich. Texas A&M the student body is a mixture of corp and civilian students, (that was the key reason I did not go there).

Because you are 'out of state' your academic records and application will have to be much stronger than the in-state applicants.

This might seem doom and gloom to you however, there is still very much hope here. For me, my grades were not outstanding nor my SAT scores all that high. Nevertheless, I did get accepted and I completed the program. What had me stand out was my strong desire to go there as well has having good grades for my one year in Jr College. Yes, I went to a two year college for one year to prove to The Citadel admissions that I was fully capable to perform college level work and the continued interest and drive to attend the school.

My path is not unique nor will you be if you pick this route. I struggled while there but I completed the program and continued on for a Masters degree as will two additional degrees later in life. A classmate of mine did the same and eventually went on to law school and has his own practice in Columbia, SC.

The key is desire, motivation and to prove to the admissions that this is the place you want to go and you are fully capable to complete the program. I suggest that you get a hold of alumni in your area, which I did. Talk to them and have them be your advocate to the admissions. If necessary, go to a Jr. College for a year. Get good grades there and re-apply the following year. Having credit going into The Citadel or VMI allows you to do two things; graduate early or the luxury of a lighter academic load compared to your classmates.

Good Luck
 

conrack

Member
This year The Citadel had a 69.3% acceptance rate, of course VMI grads aren't the best source of information on other schools. The weighted 2.5 will make you marginal for many colleges although the high SAT will provide some offset. SMCs also prefer to see heavy extracurriculars like school sports, band, JROTC and the like. Go for your first choice but have a backup plan and apply to as many colleges as possible to increase your chances. Also without a STEM major and 3.0 GPA in college your chances of a Navy commission are slim at best.
 

AJC

Member
My son attends Norwich. My advice;
Call the Florida admissions counselor at Norwich.
You might get in. Although your chances might have been better earlier as they have rolling admissions.
Your financial aid could be limited as they base it on GPA and SAT/ACT score.
As a private university it can be considered expensive.
There is a calculator on the website to estimate what they will give.
I have heard scholarships have been reduced for class of 2021, the money being used for several building projects on campus.
 

repatriot

Banned
Great points from AJC with regard to Norwich.
Conrack's stats about the citadel are not quite accurate (along with other comments), as the school is still evaluating its applicants. When the process is complete, the acceptance rate for those desiring to be in the corps of cadets at the citadel will be over 75%.
Back to the good points made by others here: it never hurts to do your best and apply to all schools. In regard to attending a Jr College, attending for one year could be very useful because it shows your ability to excel in college courses and could lessen your coursework as a cadet.
Best of luck to you!
 
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