Was First board just the big 3 athletics gimmies?

[KeyzCat]

Besides the issues KeyzCat mentioned above, there is the issue of Active Duty. Many who completed the two year ECP program last year that thought they would be able to have the option of competing for Active Duty found out at the end that they would not have that option. These cadets were forced Reserve/National Guard. If your son has a desire to go Active Duty I would advise him to stick with the 4 year program.

Yes that is a huge issue for mine sine there is a hold on 'prior service' for a lot of jobs so you can not convert ot Active Duty sorry I didn't say that as mine was told he would not most likely see that as an issue since they need more psychology majors but he did get told he most likely was not going to get to have the Psychops path as he progressed since more likely he would be made to get his MA and Phd because they have a huge need for those with PTSD / Transitioning and other Military related specialties so he had to be honest if he would be happy only being able to work as a psychologist/Psychiatrist for AROTC path and he was told that there were supposed to slots opening NROTC for psychology but since it is a Tier 3 he had to think if he was to go Navy he would have to look at what other degree in the tier 1/2 areas he feels he could enjoy and feels would be as close to his heart as Psychology so he chose Physics but did add that if there is a search for people willing to switch to psychology as we were told there may be that he definitely would be willing to go psychology. Even what you want looking at the programs. Norwich has a Psychology program that rivals Harvard and Yale's dang Masters programs. But because they have students jumping in straight out of the gate trying to transfer to Norwich from a MJC in that field of study will be putting you in that asking for the 3rd year to finish the BA cause you are going to have a lot of catching up to the others in your program.

 

[Kylar33]

Besides the issues KeyzCat mentioned above, there is the issue of Active Duty. Many who completed the two year ECP program last year that thought they would be able to have the option of competing for Active Duty found out at the end that they would not have that option. These cadets were forced Reserve/National Guard. If your son has a desire to go Active Duty I would advise him to stick with the 4 year program.

Great advice.

 

[QA1517]

Yes that is a huge issue for mine sine there is a hold on 'prior service' for a lot of jobs so you can not convert ot Active Duty sorry I didn't say that as mine was told he would not most likely see that as an issue since they need more psychology majors but he did get told he most likely was not going to get to have the Psychops path as he progressed since more likely he would be made to get his MA and Phd because they have a huge need for those with PTSD / Transitioning and other Military related specialties so he had to be honest if he would be happy only being able to work as a psychologist/Psychiatrist for AROTC path and he was told that there were supposed to slots opening NROTC for psychology but since it is a Tier 3 he had to think if he was to go Navy he would have to look at what other degree in the tier 1/2 areas he feels he could enjoy and feels would be as close to his heart as Psychology so he chose Physics but did add that if there is a search for people willing to switch to psychology as we were told there may be that he definitely would be willing to go psychology. Even what you want looking at the programs. Norwich has a Psychology program that rivals Harvard and Yale's dang Masters programs. But because they have students jumping in straight out of the gate trying to transfer to Norwich from a MJC in that field of study will be putting you in that asking for the 3rd year to finish the BA cause you are going to have a lot of catching up to the others in your program.

The transferring from an MJC to any school for your follow up BA is difficult to do in just 2 yrs. DS is doing political science and is probably still looking at 2 1/2 yrs just because the 3000 and 4000 series classes take up so much time.

ECP takes a special type of student to complete and move on successfully. My DS knows a few that have. One graduated from Texas active duty into infantry, another went active duty aviation, and another from Norwich active duty engineering. So it can be done but it takes a person that is going to succeed no matter what.

The unknown on the ECP is requirements change constantly and you sometimes don't have time to react. My DS got caught in that scenario and is in National Guard now as are all but 3 of the people he graduated with. And he too has had trouble adjusting to life at a public university vs even the somewhat structured life at an MJC.
His was on the gpa level, not pt or partying or anything else, but the academic requirements were overwhelming vs a small MJC and a small
high school.
As he put it, at the MJC he was told where to be, when to be, what to do and walk 300 yds from his dorm to his classes, eat lunch everyday at the same time and be in the dorm at a certain time. At big public University as he put it, life got a lot harder dealing with everything and dealing with being a new 2nd LT in a national guard unit getting everything dumped on you, so his gpa suffered. He has since figured it out (hopefully) and transferred to a smaller school that is associated with the big university's ROTC program. Amazing how fast a 20yr old can mature when there back is against a wall.

 

[KeyzCat]

One aspect we have had no feedback on is why there are not points for children of military. Not in our case but in many cases Military families are not going to be in the same location for the full high school career so there are areas that they can be hurt in adding to the resume like the class officers or some other voted for leadership positions that may be harder for the new kid or the kid that everyone knows could have to leave before the year is up. Just as someone said 'life's not fair' so maybe our kids deserve that preference for their parent's sacrifice as well as the sacrifice the families make when the parent/s are gone.

 

[KeyzCat]

The transferring from an MJC to any school for your follow up BA is difficult to do in just 2 yrs. DS is doing political science and is probably still looking at 2 1/2 yrs just because the 3000 and 4000 series classes take up so much time.

ECP takes a special type of student to complete and move on successfully. My DS knows a few that have. One graduated from Texas active duty into infantry, another went active duty aviation, and another from Norwich active duty engineering. So it can be done but it takes a person that is going to succeed no matter what.

The unknown on the ECP is requirements change constantly and you sometimes don't have time to react. My DS got caught in that scenario and is in National Guard now as are all but 3 of the people he graduated with. And he too has had trouble adjusting to life at a public university vs even the somewhat structured life at an MJC.
His was on the gpa level, not pt or partying or anything else, but the academic requirements were overwhelming vs a small MJC and a small
high school.
As he put it, at the MJC he was told where to be, when to be, what to do and walk 300 yds from his dorm to his classes, eat lunch everyday at the same time and be in the dorm at a certain time. At big public University as he put it, life got a lot harder dealing with everything and dealing with being a new 2nd LT in a national guard unit getting everything dumped on you, so his gpa suffered. He has since figured it out (hopefully) and transferred to a smaller school that is associated with the big university's ROTC program. Amazing how fast a 20yr old can mature when there back is against a wall.

THANK YOU so great to get that real world good bad and ugly look at what the decision for ECP/MJC can lead to long run!

 

[Jcleppe]

One aspect we have had no feedback on is why there are not points for children of military. Not in our case but in many cases Military families are not going to be in the same location for the full high school career so there are areas that they can be hurt in adding to the resume like the class officers or some other voted for leadership positions that may be harder for the new kid or the kid that everyone knows could have to leave before the year is up. Just as someone said 'life's not fair' so maybe our kids deserve that preference for their parent's sacrifice as well as the sacrifice the families make when the parent/s are gone.

These are things an applicant would want to incorporate into their ROTC Application Essay which would be considered during the review.

 

[KeyzCat]

These are things an applicant would want to incorporate into their ROTC Application Essay which would be considered during the review.

A preference for Military and Veteran parents is different than if the essay is or isn't given value. A Preference means a requirement all things being equal the military dep is above. The problem is that Pref requires all the whole person things from Yearbook Editor to community service hours have to have a quantifiable value so we don't have the questions you know going in what everything you do is valued and where you would be lining up. At least we know his NJROTC's second look state ranking for the NROTC. Does anyone know if the Jan board for NROTC was the last one? Some comments in another thread seemed to be saying that it was the last board for Navy.

 

[No1Fanof2]

OP-Awhile back I read an actual value system for WCS not just percentages. It actually broke down the leadership. I cant find it anymore it my have been posted on another site similar to SAF. You can always ask your questions through the FOIA. I have seen similar questions asked through FOIA after promotions were given in the agency I work for. I wasnt quite sure with what you meant about A & M and the NROTC. If your son is not an automatic resident admit the admissions deadline was Dec 1st. You still have time for A & M Prairie view.

 

[Blessedmom]

Thanks for the feedback I see that the comments about those not planning to stay in from other views as well as stating what felt like a fact because the scores shared were lower can feel like a bash to someone else. I think I wanted to break that invisible barrier that keeps parents and kids not selected from getting support and tips for what to do to make a better showing at the next board and to have people help them find areas that are a problem we may be poopooing because like age and the credits there is a waiver and a just making the deadline. And I mean hell why are kids overlooked/excluded that use that amazing option of Duel enrollment to get even up to their AA done while in high school? Every college that he applied to said they would not take more than 15 credits because they take anyone graduating high school that year as a Freshman it is even in several colleges admission pages that duel enrollment courses are limited and you must apply as a freshman. He actually stopped taking duel enrollment because of that. Kinda of crazy in my mind to tell kids not to challenge them self at the highest level academically but we want you to have at least 2 sports and 25 extracurricular. I think I did not say it well and am not saying it well again I am sure. I guess my goal is a WTH is 'whole person' and here is my or my kid's resume what do you see as something this last 3 months can be added in or the options for if the National is not in the cards. Thanks will try to be a bit filtered but do want people to get to say the real feelings and not feel like they are going to be told they are bad for having thoughts and feelings. We do have a right to wonder WTH is right about someone with a 22 ACT but a highly recruited Football and baseball player going over someone that is a gymnast and a 30 ACT. Why shouldn't they be allowed to ask that there is a value to knowing if as I asked are top 3 sports going to be higher rated than test scores. Is there a place that tells us the scores each item gets? Under Sports/ Extracurricular does Football = 200 and Tennis = 30 we don't know but maybe those that have those peeks behind the curtain can tell us. But if you are made to feel like you can't ask then none of us will ever know. So I see a couple "put me in my place" posts and hey if you are on the other side of the equation and your feelings are hurt then don't post your kids resume for us to see where they are lacking compared to the kids overlooked. I posted my DS asking where are we missing what are these things weighted as so the offense they take in some ways I see a few things like the 5 and dive/fly but silly things like life's not fair only shows that the person most definitely would be asking the same questions I am if their kids was overlooked so I just find that amusing and hope those that do have questions and frustrations just overlook those posts and look at those giving qualitative and quantitative feedback and YES you ARE allowed to be hurt, frustrated and annoyed and you ARE allowed to ask WHAT the hell is the process what is the score system.

Hello there I just wanted to give my opinion about athletes and those who might have lower standardized test scores or lower grades. Any high school athlete who plays on varsity or all-state or national work extremely hard. My son is a high school swimmer only freshman on his varsity team, went to state too. He wakes up 4x day at 5am to swim and practice everyday afterschool as well as going to away matches, Saturday's he has club swim meets & also USA swim meets some Sat & Sundays. On top of that he has honors and few AP classes? I don't know how he does it....sometimes he has no energy or time but still pulls through on school work. Not to excuse lower grades ranking or Test, but athletes need to work extra hard to balance and I think colleges, NROTC & SA take that into consideration???

 

[No1Fanof2]

A preference for Military and Veteran parents is different than if the essay is or isn't given value. A Preference means a requirement all things being equal the military dep is above. The problem is that Pref requires all the whole person things from Yearbook Editor to community service hours have to have a quantifiable value so we don't have the questions you know going in what everything you do is valued and where you would be lining up. At least we know his NJROTC's second look state ranking for the NROTC. Does anyone know if the Jan board for NROTC was the last one? Some comments in another thread seemed to be saying that it was the last board for Navy.

Someone posted board dates for NROTC it went through April with a probable update in May. Search No NROTC notification yet...
http://www.serviceacademyforums.com/index.php?threads/no-nrotc-notification-yet.45887/

 

[KeyzCat]

OP-Awhile back I read an actual value system for WCS not just percentages. It actually broke down the leadership. I cant find it anymore it my have been posted on another site similar to SAF. You can always ask your questions through the FOIA. I have seen similar questions asked through FOIA after promotions were given in the agency I work for. I wasnt quite sure with what you meant about A & M and the NROTC. If your son is not an automatic resident admit the admissions deadline was Dec 1st. You still have time for A & M Prairie view.

Thanks will tell him to get that app in ASAP

 

[KeyzCat]

Hello there I just wanted to give my opinion about athletes and those who might have lower standardized test scores or lower grades. Any high school athlete who plays on varsity or all-state or national work extremely hard. My son is a high school swimmer only freshman on his varsity team, went to state too. He wakes up 4x day at 5am to swim and practice everyday afterschool as well as going to away matches, Saturday's he has club swim meets & also USA swim meets some Sat & Sundays. On top of that he has honors and few AP classes? I don't know how he does it....sometimes he has no energy or time but still pulls through on school work. Not to excuse lower grades ranking or Test, but athletes need to work extra hard to balance and I think colleges, NROTC & SA take that into consideration???

My son was a Golfer he also had to practice as well as take private lessons and because the course gives them free memberships they have to clean the range, volunteer to help at tourneys, clean balls, wash out carts, help paying golfers / members load their carts and unload, and even things like help watch the pro shop while worker has an emergency. That is why I want to know if the Captain of the Golf team is given the same rating as the Captain of the Football team. Does a Golf Association Award count the same as a MVP for the year in big three.

 

[Blessedmom]

My son was a Golfer he also had to practice as well as take private lessons and because the course gives them free memberships they have to clean the range, volunteer to help at tourneys, clean balls, wash out carts, help paying golfers / members load their carts and unload, and even things like help watch the pro shop while worker has an emergency. That is why I want to know if the Captain of the Golf team is given the same rating as the Captain of the Football team. Does a Golf Association Award count the same as a MVP for the year in big three.

I think colleges will give special consideration if captain of his varsity golf team or all-state golfer or plays competitive on national level? Think if you are a recruited athlete either golf or football it does not matter as long as you are the best? Think more weight is given for captain of team sports than individual sports??

 

[TampaDad]

That is why I want to know if the Captain of the Golf team is given the same rating as the Captain of the Football team. Does a Golf Association Award count the same as a MVP for the year in big three.

I am a complete outsider when it comes to the military (although my father, grandfather, father-in-law, etc served), but my understanding is that captain of the golf team does not count the same as captain of the football/baseball/softball/basketball team. I recall reading a paper where the author explained that captain of the football/baseball/softball/basketball team was awarded 700 points in the evaluation whereas the captain of any other varsity team is awarded 600 points (this was just the Naval Academy computation of the Whole Candidate Score). Same difference in making First Team all area/All American in the relative sports. Frankly, I can see the rationale behind it, even though my son is captain of his lacrosse team and will be applying to the CGA. But, I have no idea how ROTC makes their determinations.

As for children of military families getting preference over non-military families, I'm not sure that could be rationalized. The moving scenario doesn't really work since lots of families move during high school, not just military families.

 

[EOD/SEALmom]

@KeyzCat, I think what Blessedmom is trying to explain is that most varsity sports are far more time and energy consuming than what you've described about your son's golf team. Like Blessedmom, my swimmer has practice 5 days a week for 2 hours, plus swim meets. Track season is the same in spring. Boxing is year round, practice 3 nights a week - on top of swim or track. On top of that, she meets with a military fitness training group before school 3 days a week and on Saturdays.

I think what a few others have suggested is that perhaps your son is lacking in physical fitness. I don't see in any of your posts what his PFT scores were, and if he did great on the PFT then that's fabulous - but it could also be that it is the athleticism that he needs to work on. I mean absolutely no disrespect, simply pointing out what I see possibly lacking.

I do appreciate your service to our country. However, I disagree that your service should count towards your offspring. Service academy or ROTC is based on the candidates resumes, not on what his/her parents did however many years ago. There is the GI Bill that can be used to send your child to college, if you did not use the funds for yourself - have you looked into that?

Most kids are different from their parents, simply because they are their own unique person. Heck, while my own kids share some of my traits not one of them is exactly like me (for which I'm grateful, haha).

You must also consider his desired major of psychology. I cannot speak to the needs of the military, but a psychologist is a job that likely has far less slots available to commission than anything else. I'm guessing that a ROTC scholarship for psychology major would be extremely competitive, simply because there are less slots to fill.

Lastly, as a mom I have to ask - what is the rush to get your kid in college so fast??? Does he truly want to go into the military now, or could you perhaps be pushing him?

If you wait until next year, he can work on anything at all that needs improvement and then apply to a service academy. Why not just wait a year???

Your son has a good resume, and he should be proud of all that he has accomplished so far. It sounds like he's just too young yet. My daughter has a July birthday, she was notified in April that she was an Official Candidate to USNA.....and she couldn't log on to the portal until after she turned 17 months later. The wait was excruciating!!!

I understand that it can be very hard to watch your son work so hard for years and then be told to just wait longer, but it just might be the best thing for him. Why settle for EC or JMC, why try to scramble together scholarships, ROTC, etc and pick schools that are less than his first choice.......when in just 10 months he could apply to a service academy, which you said had been his dream? Why give up that dream to get him into the military at age 16?

I wish you nothing but the best, and I hope all your son's dreams may come true.

 

[TampaDad]

EOD/SEALmom, that is excellent advice on life in general. Don't settle for what is immediately available when waiting a short period of time could open up huge opportunities. KeyzCat, you live in the Keys (I assume). Let your son take a few months off and become a deck hand on a fishing boat, work on his fitness if that's an issue, or whatever else he wants/needs to do. He sounds like someone that would really excel at an Academy once he's old enough to apply.

 

[Pima]

keyz,

They actually understand military families.
~ IE: Presidential nominations exist for military kids.

As a military family, believe it or not many kids, mine included were able to check off many of the squares. It just means you don't lose sight of things along the way.
~ DS (AFROTC scholarship/commissioned, now a pilot) resume was:
~~ Jr. Olympian Bronze Medalist for TKD
~~ 2X state champion for TKD
~~ Lifeguard with 23 saves
~~ NHS, FHS, LHS
~~ Habitat for Humanity (200 hrs)
~~ Top 7% class rank
~~ 33 or 34 (can't recall) best sitting, not superscore. 1410 (720 math/690 verbal), again best sitting.
~~ APs and Jumpstart.

His ALO of course knew that he attended 2 different HS as a military child. His ALO submitted his rec. for his AFROTC scholarship which is part of the WCS. The ALO maxxed out his points. Now, maybe he did so because although he didn't have leadership or traditional team sports, he excelled in every aspect regardless of moving 2x in hs. DS was offered a type 2 from the 1st board. Every one of our MoCs gave him a nomination.
~OBTW, not only was he an AFROTC scholarship recipient, but every college gave him nice merit money too. He also had colleges like Stanford, UNCCH, NYU Sterns contact him personally because once the AFROTC scholarship list came out the ROTC commanders at those schools saw his stats were a match for their colleges and reached out to the admissions dept. Thus, even though he never applied to any of those schools, they found him.

Are military kids at a disadvantage impo? Yes, and no. I would lean more to the no side than yes. I feel that way because the amount of life experiences they are exposed to are an advantage. My children attended no less than 8 schools in 5 different states. My eldest 2 went to 2 different middle schools (2 different states) and 2 different HS (2 different states) IOWS we moved @ every 2 years for 6 years. Yet, my kids were just as well rounded as any kid that never moved according to scholarships, nominations, and acceptances. The big difference is what a military kid brings to the table.
~ How many kids can say they were born in England, lived in NJ, NC, VA, KS, AK? That they have a non-blood family (military)
~~ DS got married 18 months ago to an AF brat. Their flower girl was the DD of his old baby sitter, my best friends grand daughter. I was her DDs (babysitter) confirmation sponsor, and later on she (babysitter) was my DDs confirmation sponsor. We have traveled far and wide to be there for the major events in our kids lives over the last 20 years.
~~~ My DS said it the best at his wedding when he toasted his father. Thank you Dad for showing me the brethren of the military.

 

[FalconsRock]

That is why I want to know if the Captain of the Golf team is given the same rating as the Captain of the Football team. Does a Golf Association Award count the same as a MVP for the year in big three.

KeyzCat, there are so many scenarios that have been posted here and there is no pat answer as to why one is chosen over another. It does not matter, IMO, how one's sport is weighted against another. My DD was never the captain of any sport nor did she play any team sport. She is an equestrian and is only captain of her horse. What mattered is that she has been riding for 13 years and won some championships at the AA competition level. Her school does not award letters for sports, does not have NHS, student council nor Boys or Girls State. She received an appointment to USAFA and a 4 yr ROTC scholarship. What matters is how that student finds opportunities to excel even if the school itself does not offer what most other top candidates have. She had to work extra hard to find leadership positions and sports outside of her school and that's what made the difference.

Your DS's credentials are extremely competitive, but truly, they are no more competitive than many of the other applicants on this forum. However, I have no doubt he will do well. I agree with many of the posters in regards to the rush to serve and perhaps the physical fitness area. Since he is on an accelerated course, he has one less year of resume building compared to his competition, although I understand ROTC only looks at 9-11th grade. He is still missing one half year of credentials compared to others. One more year under his belt to realize his dream of attending an SA would be worth the wait. I hope things work out the way he wants.

 

[Dckc88]

KeyzCat,

Something I thought of in relation to this situation is watching my two other daughters teammates (not the one applying for ROTC), and the college recruiting process. My two daughters verbally committed to play soccer at barely age 16, middle of sophomore year. They were lucky, and one was even injured at the time looking at a minimum of 8 more months before she might play again. There were a lot of parents from the team saying congratulations but then turning and within earshot saying, "it's not fair, that should be my kid". I get it, it is tough, and my girls are not more deserving than their teammates. One thing that was unknown was how hard the girls were being proactive contacting schools, while most girls were just starting the process, but it didn't matter it made everyone around them concerned that the ship had sailed for their daughter, even though it was very early with less than 10% of spots filled for their year. Fast forward a year later and most girls on the team have found their place for their next chapter, with a scholarship, but not all have. There were definitely families who thought it wasn't fair, and still do and have taken it out in saying nasty things to my kids, that coaches even got it wrong, and trust me when one of my girls had a scoring slump, we heard about it, and it was ugly. They were both very lucky, timing is a huge issue In sports recruiting and they were literally in the right place at the right time, as it appears is also in this process. And even though they know where they are going, there is still pressure on them, every time they take the field the scrutiny is even tougher than it was, and their future college coach is watching. Not to mention they won't officially sign for another year, there is a lot that can happen. I think that is what can happen here, the kids getting first board still have a long haul, and still are under pressure. They need to be medically cleared, and in some cases figure out if they even get into the school, or if applicable how to pay the balance like room and board, or how to pay for that school if something goes sideways. Being on the other end on the soccer process, parents get defensive because their kids are still unsure if it will all work out. I get your questioning the process, but the kids going first board still have something to lose and tension is high. There is still insecurity, so your comments might of picked at the scab a little so to speak, there is no sure thing here. Like Clarksonarmy says, there is still a long road. The good news is, your sons name is still in the running, and maybe when the second board comes out, you will be on the other end too and feel the bitter sweet reality of being one step closer yet still far away. You will still have questions and not everything will go smoothly, but he will be one step closer. Just trying to give you a different perspective why some people have needed to put you in your place because we are all still unsure if our kids will truly contract come August. My daughter is hoping for second board, but she is probably more likely a third board competitive candidate, so we are not holding our breathe, but I am sure will still be disappointed if it doesn't happen this time around. Good luck to you and your son, and may the process be as unstressful as possible!

 

[KeyzCat]

He is in NJROTC and Peer mentor for the NS2/3 class so he not only does PT with his NS1and 4 class he does it again with the NS2/3 class. I guess many do not understand that golfers playing for a HS team are not allowed to use a golf cart so they have practice 3:30 - 6:30pm 5 days a week practices followed by an hour of the physical labor of picking a driving range; something you really don't want to have to do after walking 9 holes carrying a 30 lb bag of clubs. They are required to also take private lessons on weekend or the hour before regular practice at least 3 days a week or 3 hours weekends which usually is walking 2 to 3 holes per hour and 200-300 balls on the range. His PFT I think he had 62 /73 pu/su but don't remember if that was his APFT or the NPFT and no clue on the runs think one was a 1 mile and one was a 2 mile his times on our Stivia show he does 1 miles regularly average of 6.5 - 7.5 mins /mile not a max but not 'just making it'. I got a great PM with info on some scores I don't know if they want to share it with the group so leaving it to the sharing party to post it if they feel comfortable doing that. As the swimming parent said (we lived in Lochte land most of DS life, Ryan's mom was DS after school program director which was at the pool Ryan and his brothers trained prior to UF so we know how swimmers train it is no joke! So why would a football player out rank a Swimmer or Tennis player (you think hitting buckets upon buckets of balls is not physical... ) The reality is the only reason for giving a higher ranking for Foot/Ball/Basket ball is $$ they make the $$ for the schools and associations. And DS was recruited at 2 of the schools for golf but they don't know till after the big three sports scholarships are handed out how many if any golf slots they will have. In Florida they have made a push for Female golf scholarships but not really for males ( Female sports scholarships have been very sadly under funded so any female golfers may want to look at UM they have a huge program backing now and are treating female athletes equitably. YEAH! We had an amazing jump this year we only had one Female last year on the Golf team but this year the girls outnumbered the boys!! Super awesome! 3 of our new golf girls were also Softball superstars. I think I have good info on where DS may have had issues on first board but for one that said they can't update the applications after boarded this is from the AROTC front page when you log in
***NOTE: Applicants who were previously boarded but not selected to receive a scholarship, can continue to submit updated documents to increase their chance for selection. However, all application updates must be SUBMITTED no later than 29 February @ 1159pm to be considered for a scholarship during the final board that convenes 7-11 March 2016.

Many want to know why doesn't he take a year off or work on a boat. He doesn't want to take off a year I suggested he do a year since he has the 100% BFs he should be able to use the new Florida Colleges online program where you can actually take online courses from any Florida State and some private schools. He may do it if all the other options he has lined up fall through or if he gets offered the staff position for our Congressman.