Well that explains why he never heard about NROTC scholarship

navyfamilyof4

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DS contacted the recruiter office and they said they never received his teacher and counselor evaluations. So it was never submitted and it’s past the due date. So that’s that unfortunately.
 
Ouch. Sorry to hear that. Our local recruiter was very good at itemizing what was remaining/ outstanding.

I’m surprised the portal or recruiter wasn’t more informative of the gap.

Hope your DS has other options. Keep in mind he can join and compete for a scholarship from campus too.

Best of luck.
 
Ouch. Sorry to hear that. Our local recruiter was very good at itemizing what was remaining/ outstanding.

I’m surprised the portal or recruiter wasn’t more informative of the gap.

Hope your DS has other options. Keep in mind he can join and compete for a scholarship from campus too.

Best of luck.

Yeah he has everything else covered. Thanks for the tip on applying for a scholarship after he starts school
 
He can contact the unit as soon as he decides where he goes. The sooner the better, and he won’t miss out. He may be eligible for summer training, and certainly for orientation on campus.

Meanwhile, and maybe because as a parent one can only wonder why Darling Offspring didn’t follow up sooner, I would encourage DS to have a quiet word with his HS guidance counselor or office. They should know that vital information was not received. This can be part of DS’ learning experience in how to politely follow-up. (It’s not a blame game). You’re not just helping those that follow, but if the office dropped the ball because of unfamiliarity with the process, then DS will help his next round of scholarship applications.
 
To share a personal story:
My DS realized pretty early on his NROTC application contact was incredibly busy and just didn’t get back to him. Was he on vacation? No, he was on duty elsewhere but the email and msgs were never forwarded or responded to. Fast forward... he gets the 4y, but it’s to a school he was denied admission. He sweats through the transfer paperwork... but contacted the desired unit first / right away. They helped him, talked him off the crazy train to some degree, and gave him all sorts of info. He hit the ground running by the end of May like it was the plan all along.

So DO - really - reach out to the unit he hopes to join ASAP.
 
To me, the teacher and counselor recommendations is the weakest link in this process. Your story will help future readers/ applicants.

Follow up on paperwork in the military is a critical task - I can't tell you how many people have experienced unexpected consequences as a result of paperwork glitches. Screwed up orders, missed promotions, and worse are all possibilities. In fact, the prevailing wisdom is that until you have the final document in your hand and have checked the accuracy assume that it is screwed up or lost.

Oh... and keep personal copies of EVERYTHING
 
+1 to Grunt. A small glitch can sink a thousand ships.... or something like that.
 
To me, the teacher and counselor recommendations is the weakest link in this process. Your story will help future readers/ applicants.

Follow up on paperwork in the military is a critical task - I can't tell you how many people have experienced unexpected consequences as a result of paperwork glitches. Screwed up orders, missed promotions, and worse are all possibilities. In fact, the prevailing wisdom is that until you have the final document in your hand and have checked the accuracy assume that it is screwed up or lost.

Oh... and keep personal copies of EVERYTHING

And this isn’t unique to applying to a SA or ROTC program. It’s a life skill.
 
DS contacted the recruiter office and they said they never received his teacher and counselor evaluations. So it was never submitted and it’s past the due date. So that’s that unfortunately.

I can relate to this, my DS did the same thing with AFROTC. Ugh! Fortunately, he applied to Navy and Army.

Good luck to your son!
 
So to add to the story i spoke to the teachers and counselor and they confirmed they absolutely sent the required info in December and they have confirmation proving. All was sent on time but the portal has issues. So unfortunate. His principal is calling the nrotc counselor to complain
 
So to add to the story i spoke to the teachers and counselor and they confirmed they absolutely sent the required info in December and they have confirmation proving. All was sent on time but the portal has issues. So unfortunate. His principal is calling the nrotc counselor to complain

"Complain" might not be the best route for your DS. You want the ROTC counselor to be an advocate for your DS. Don't put them in an adversarial relationship. It probably won't help and might hurt the situation.
 
This happened to DS during his application. What turned out to be the root of his problem, was that his assigned recruiter changed three times (he started as soon as it opened). And with each change, different things were processed to different stages (not sure if this is the right way to say it, I don’t know the way is done from the recruiter end) of completion. Specifically, with each change they said the teacher and counselor info hadn’t been received. DS’s teachers/counselors completed them online three times. With confirmation on their end they were received.

It was explained to DS that recruiters get reassigned. And that the next one doesn’t have access to the prior ones stuff. It was for sure a lesson in diligence on DS’s part. Follow up was required. The process is very different than the SA process.
 
[QUOTE="Complain" might not be the best route for your DS. You want the ROTC counselor to be an advocate for your DS. Don't put them in an adversarial relationship. It probably won't help and might hurt the situation.[/QUOTE]



I agree in generalities, however, this is different than the candidate or parent complaining. The school prinicpal will have other students in the future, so having a relationship with the counselor and learning some ins and outs is not a bad idea, a school representative that is part of the process does not reflect on the applicant at all. A parent on the other hand is a totally different issue.

When my daughter was awarded the AROTC scholarship our school principal contacted us to make sure we were at the senior awards assembly because a member of the cadre from the local university was coming to give the award. She also gave us the heads up that they were not telling our daughter, nor should we, because they regularly do not show up. Because of that, she explained to me that one of the school’s guidance counselor who is currently serving in the NG was prepped and ready to go and it would be best if that happens for my daughter to think that was the plan all along. Well it was her guidance counselor that recognized her, which was perfect, and to this day she is none the wiser that it was plan B.

None of this had anything to do with us, but the school knew to have a plan B. For future applicants is important the prinicpal and guidance counselors at this applicant’s school figure out the process, if nothing else, to maybe have someone to call to double check, or to tell the next applicant to follow up. Again, the school is already in the ongoing process year after year, so their complaints should not reflect in anyone participant.
 
"Complain" might not be the best route for your DS. You want the ROTC counselor to be an advocate for your DS. Don't put them in an adversarial relationship. It probably won't help and might hurt the situation.

More like inquire.
 
"Complain" might not be the best route for your DS. You want the ROTC counselor to be an advocate for your DS. Don't put them in an adversarial relationship. It probably won't help and might hurt the situation.

More like inquire.

I actually thought that was probably what you meant and even included it in my reply at one point before I posted. Great minds...and all that. :)
 
And, that is really a unfortunate situation for your DS. Things work out for a reason and if he was competitive for a NROTC high school scholarship he should be totally qualified for a collegiate based one. Learn from adversity and move forward. Good luck.
 
I'm not clear from your posts on why your son did not follow up on whether everything was received or not. As poster above asked, wasn't there a portal involved?

May this be a lesson to future candidates. Never put your future in the hands of anyone else. You must maintain control of the process! This will be key throughout a military career.
 
I'm not clear from your posts on why your son did not follow up on whether everything was received or not. As poster above asked, wasn't there a portal involved?

May this be a lesson to future candidates. Never put your future in the hands of anyone else. You must maintain control of the process! This will be key throughout a military career.

He did follow up. Multiple times. And was told various things. As of late December he was told all was complete except the interview. Which he did in January. Miraculously when his principal and counselor called yesterday they found everything and sent it in as complete. They claimed it was a portal glitch.
 
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