Westboro Baptist at VMI tomorrow

Its ironic how they use the luxuries of the American system but then curse the same system that allows them perform their "religious practices". Underlines the idiocy of their "organization".

They ended up not showing up; however, the turnout for support was inspiring. There had to be over 400 people just standing outside the church ready to take peaceful action if need be. Cheers to Rockbridge County :thumb:

That's excellent to hear and exactly what I expected out of the good citizens of Lexington & Rockbridge.
 
I spent 6 years in the Marine Corps defending the rights of idiots too. I guarantee if that was my child's funeral, I would be going to jail. I am not advocating organized violence at all, I am stating what I would do. They are shameful.

There are plenty of other groups I firmly disagree with also, like all the occupy bastards, but they have the right to be wrong also I suppose.

Free speech is definitely a double edged sword.
 
Remember, the First Amendment protects people from the GOVERNMENT'S abridgment of free speech, not from a punch to the mouth from their neighbor. That's what laws are for.

Telling someone to shut up isn't curtailing their rights. Slapping them isn't either. It is, however, illegal.
 
Getting angry is not the answer.

Of course, we would all be angry in that situation. I would try to channel that anger into something else. Indeed, if it was my son being buried (or friend, classmate, father, etc.), my reaction would probably be a big smile. It would affirm to me, in a time of great pain, that my loved one died for a country that values personal liberty. That is, the presence of the WBC would prove that his sacrifice enabled these clowns to say ridiculous things without governmental censorship of their political speech. A smile and a wave, with a "thank you for excercising your freedom" would be the LAST thing those a$$holes would want to hear. I would conclude with a perfectly legal extension of the middle finger in their direction, with a finishing comment of "now let me excercise mine."

I know that it might be hard to conceptualize that, but not only is the response perfectly legal, it's both a tribute to the fallen and the exact opposite of the reaction WBC wants.
 
What surprises me is that I haven't read about an organized effort to take the protest back at WBC (I don't count anonymous' hacking activities as organized protest).

WBC has made a lot of enemies over the years. You'd think there would be enough riled up groups with enough $$ to keep a perpetual protest going outside their facility. They could take it those who do business with WBC (make their lawyers pariah and only scum with money will use them).

Heck, GLBT groups could hold PDA protest events outside their facilities to really agitate them. Why should the good people of the world have their blood pressure raised when you can turn the tables?
 
Rights and Responsibilities

A lot has been written about WBC's right to protected speech. But as I have taught my children, exercising rights comes with the notion of exercising those rights responsibly. If the folks at WBC choose not to exercise their rights responsibly and cause action to be brought upon them, then I hope they won't mind if I LMFAO if someone reminds them in a way they can't interpret as neighborly.
Cheers...
 
Heck, GLBT groups could hold PDA protest events outside their facilities to really agitate them. Why should the good people of the world have their blood pressure raised when you can turn the tables?

They already do. There are plenty of news stories and videos of gay groups demonstrating in front of WBC and/or Fred Phelps or his family members, which make up 100% of the "church." WBC just smiles and basks in the publicity.
 
A lot has been written about WBC's right to protected speech. But as I have taught my children, exercising rights comes with the notion of exercising those rights responsibly.

For those who have a brain and choose to use it, yes, you are correct. However, in a free society, we cannot designate (nor trust) a group or person to use their own definition of what speech should be allowed (as "responsible") and what speech should be disallowed ("as irresponsible").

USNR1315 said:
If the folks at WBC choose not to exercise their rights responsibly and cause action to be brought upon them, then I hope they won't mind if I LMFAO if someone reminds them in a way they can't interpret as neighborly.
Cheers...

Hmm. Again, an advocacy of violence against a group, who are using their 1st Amendment rights, because we disagree with the content of their speech.

How about.....a group of military supporters or military vets getting attacked by OWL (even spit upon, like a CG officer was in Boston) because OWL doesn't agree with their speech?

You OK with that? Would you LMFAO when that happens? Of course not.

But that is the exact same thing - violence against a speaker because you disagree with their position or the content of their "speech."

It's hypocritical to continue to approve of "their 1st Amendment right to speak" yet tacitly approve (by LMFAO or crying crocodile tears) the use of violence against said speaker because you don't like their message.

This group's method, behavior, and speech content is vile, repugnant, disgusting, and depraved. And any (and all) non-violent methods to block them, silence them, or otherwise shield those who they protest against should be utilized. I'll even go further and state that I approve of the illegal cyber-warfare (non-violent) methods used by th3j35t3r (well know hactivist) to shut down their websites, just as he shuts down the websites of jihadi and other terrorist-networking websites.

But when society begins to advocate violence against anyone because you don't like their message, indeed, the "slippery slope" is the ground you stand upon.

Because somewhere, someone out there disagrees vehemently with what YOU believe is protected speech (a patriotic message, a political candidate's position, Coke or Pepsi, etc) and they would have he same right to attack you for your views as well.

PS - the "people of SW Virginia" are no different from the people in Anniston AL, or Fort Worth TX, or Billings MT, or Westminster MD (where the original SCOTUS case began, Snyder v Phelps) - they all find this group vulgar and worthless.

PPS - What limits WBC in their travels is money, not fear of something at the destination. They don't have the cash to travel to every site they put on their schedule. They've been attacked before, and the perpetrators have always gone to jail, as every event they attend is well-policed and almost always videotaped.
 
its a sad day in this country when the supreme court has essentially said anything goes when it comes to free speech. What has become of decency and common sense in this world?
 
its a sad day in this country when the supreme court has essentially said anything goes when it comes to free speech. What has become of decency and common sense in this world?

It's a sadder day when we allow majority rule to decide exactly what is "decent" and exactly what is "common sense". Shariah Law has a lot to say about those two topics as well, and has been forced as the standard in many nations based on majority rule. A drastic and extreme example, for sure. But it uses the same logic mentioned above.

Which would you prefer, the majority dictating what you can or cannot say, or allowing everyone to have their say, even if it doesn't follow the majority's standards? I prefer the latter.

I see these idiots from WBBC putting on their little "shows" outside my place of work at least twice a month from April to October. Do I like it? No. How do I feel is the best way to counter it? Simple -- ignore them. Getting into confrontations with them is EXACTLY what they want; it gets them on the new and allows them to sue anyone who steps on their right to protest (which is basically their biggest source of their income, and ultimately allows them to continue to fund their travels to put on their little shows.)

Ignore them. It's the harder thing to do, but usually the right thing to do is the hardest.
 
its a sad day in this country when the supreme court has essentially said anything goes when it comes to free speech. What has become of decency and common sense in this world?

I agree with Bullet; our laws are made to protect the minority from the majority.
 
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