I think by now Jun has gotten the drift.
I agree with TheGrand. This opinion is for NOW.
The fact is after reading all of the posts and votes they may now see things differently.
1. That this is not a life for them and never apply.
~~~~ The pool results may sway them, and if it does, IMPO, they should not apply. You have to want it to a point nobody can talk you out of it, especially strangers on an anonymous forum.
2. That this process is not just writing an essay and cutting a check for the application.
~~~~ Yes, many Ivies will have an interview process too, but if they do, it isn't repeated as frequently as it is for some SA candidates. I.E. apply to every SA, than you have the ALO, BGO and FFR for each SA. If the MOC interviews, that could be 3 more, if you are lucky. If you apply ROTC scholarship you may have to be interviewed by the COC at one of your colleges.
IOWS, by Jan. next year they could have as many as 7 interviews if their top 15 include USNA, USMA, more if USCGA and USMMA are in the mix. They will know by the end if this is truly what they want.
3. This is a life for them. They want that demand of you are the elite....now prove it to us.
I want to add one more thing. Unless I missed it, Jun has never stated what state he is from. Again, this is a different process than applying to Princeton. It is geo-centric at first. That means as great as their stats may seem, they may not be so great if they are coming from a competitive state, such as CA, VA CO, TX, etc compared to ND, SD or WY. No offense to those states, and I am not saying they are less stellar, just saying that statistically their MOCs have less candidates applying than what posters consider competitive states. The MOCs typically don't spread the wealth. A candidate from NC can get all 3 MOC noms, not true for those states. Don't win the slate, than you go into the national pool.
Princeton, Harvard, Johns Hopkins couldn't care what congressional district you are from when you apply. Jun needs to understand the appointment process.
Jun also needs to understand another hurdle that nobody has discussed, but trips up many candidates. Princeton does not care if the applicant has asthma, vision issues or even a broken bone, but the military does. Thus, this pool answer means really zip, Nada, zilch since none of us know the minutia factors for not only an appointment, but I day.
My bet is the results would change if in their original post they said they were from Fairfax VA, and have a vision that is only correctable to 20/30. Heck, even if their vision was correctable, the VA aspect would change their opinion.
I have not answered the poll for that reason alone. I know for Cantor, he gives principal, but usually saves it if the candidate is a 2nd time applicant and did AFROTC. Again, not knowing his MOC district would be giving false hope IMPO because you based it on your area. In Fairfax, the avg SAT is 1350+ out of 1600. This is why you see many pulled from the national pool. TJHS is ranked nationally in the top ten, if not the top 5, not state. It carries weight with the MOC. It carries weight with the school profile that the AFA uses.
Again, JMPO, but I hope Jun does some real research regarding what this process will entail, and not rely on a poll.
FWIW, my answer would be no. I am going on VA stats.
1250 is below the median for a Type 7 AFROTC scholarship. So much for the idea that ROTC is not your high standard. It is not NMSF PSAT. AFROTC type 1 is 1300+, and they do not super score, it is best sitting. You are also below the median for AFA, which for Math is @680.
~~~ If you do not know what NMSF is, than you didn't get NMSF. Basically, top 5% and anyone with it would acknowledge it on their resume. Our DD in VA had 1280 best sitting and was not an NMSF. Super score she was 1350. DS1 had 1390 best sitting and was NMSF.
Again, take the time to Google AFROTC scholarship stats because that board is like Princeton, Harvard, Notre Dame, etc.admission....national. They are also just as competitive because there is no take the SAT 8 times and superscore, it is one sitting. They also don't take into account your senior year, except for SAT, they only look at what you submit ending with your junior year.
I wish Jun the best, but I personally question why their SAT score was average, at best, when they are looking at the top 15 schools. Many of those top schools view Asian descent not as URM, but ORM. ORM= Over Represented Minority. I suggest Jun to go to collegecofidential.com and post their stats on the 15 schools they intend to apply to for fall admission. I think 1250 SAT is going to be a huge wake up call.
