What is the acceptance rate for reapplicants?

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  1. hdl160

    hdl160 Member

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    What are the stats for reapplicants? Also do the academies like them? Do they have an advantage over first time applicants?
     
  2. Kierkegaard

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    Reapplicants are not necessarily stronger candidates and many do not receive appointments. What you do have as a reapplicant is the opportunity to address any previous weaknesses and to present a college transcript to Admissions. If your first semester grades are good, that's worth a lot.
     
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    Old Navy BGO 5-Year Member

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    Success rate of reapplicants really depends upon strengths of the applicant. A weak applicant will always be a weak applicant. A strong applicant that didn't get in the first time because there was someone stronger (ie. #2 on their MOC slate) would likely have an advantage on the second try. The key is making an honest assessment of your strengths and weaknesses, talk with you Regional Director and BGO, and then deciding whether you have a better chance if you reapply.
     
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    What about a reapplicant who had previously received an appt?
     
  5. usna1985

    usna1985 10-Year Member

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    A VERY individualized question. The first issue is why the appointment was declined. And then what happened? Did the person go to civilian college and realize he/she really should be at USNA? Was there a medical issue? Then, how did the person do wherever he/she went instead of USNA?

    Depending on the answers, it might be very likely the person gets another shot -- or not likely at all.
     
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  6. Graceful

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    DS was nominated in Florida last year and stayed in the pool all the way until April 5th when he got the TWE. (The primary nominee turned down offer he got and went to UF to be with his girlfriend!) He's at GWU and in the NROTC this year and reapplying to USNA. Currently he is going thru the nomination process for the state of Maryland. I'm guessing the MOC nomination boards don't really care about a prior nomination? We've heard that reapplicants have an edge on the first time applicants because it shows perseverance and interesting that almost everyone we encounter applied more than one time! still feeling hopeful....
     
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    It's a new cycle and a new slate and of course, no carryovers for anyone e.g. even for those that received appointments the previous year and may have been turned away for medcial reasons etc. they go through the process again. Having said that, if your DS demonstrates the same things, and perhaps more, than he did to obtain a nomination in the first go around, I wouldn't think this to be a major obstacle.

    As noted by Old Navy BGO, taking an honest assessment of what held him back last year and then examining how his application now has addressed and overcome those potential weaknesses is an important part of self-evaluation. It's been said that USNA "loves re-applicants" because of what you've mentioned about perseverance etc. However, no amount of perseverance will make up for weak first semester college grades or a curriculum that doesn't at least closely reflect what Plebes take in STEM courses, English, etc. If he took a mere 12 hours of sociology, psychology, or political science classes, regardless of his GPA, that isn't going to cut it. (Not that I have anything against any of those subjects and we're in fact some of my own favorites....but I'm not an academy candidate either).

    I wish you and your DS the best in his pursuit.
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  8. USMA 1994

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    Specific to USMA and most likely the same at the others, the Academic portion of the WCS is boosted by a successful semester of challenging college classes. This boost is not available to high school students so the system will favor college re-applicants. With that said, @Old Navy BGO is 100% correct. A weak applicant will always be week. A strong candidate who just missed his first year has a very good chance as a re-applicant. An HONEST self assessment will likely answer your question.
     
  9. usna1985

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    There are a couple of benefits that reapplicants have. First, and most importantly, they can demonstrate to USNA that they can handle -- and excel at -- the plebe courses at a college level. Second, they have additional maturity in that they're a year older, have lived on their own for a year (in most cases), etc. That said, a good reapplicant won't trump an outstanding h.s. student.

    As for the way WP handles it, I'm not sure that USNA gives you extra points b/c of the extra semester of college. USNA considers all college applicants together. There's no quota (of which I'm aware), but you're basically competing against others who are similarly situated. And, of course, you're competing against others for each of the MOC slates. '

    Bottom line (as others have said), if you were close as a h.s. student AND improve your application during that extra year, you have a good shot. If you were very weak as a h.s. student and/or don't excel as a college student, the mere fact you're reapplying won't make much difference.
     
  10. Kierkegaard

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    That's interesting, could you elaborate? Does this mean that Admissions has an approximation in mind of how many reapplicants they want, and will consider them separately from first-timers? And how would they compete them against each other, would you suppose there's a certain number of reapplicants they'll take off the National Pool?
     
  11. USMA 1994

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    Again, maybe the two academies are a little different but the college applicants are not in an additional nomination pool or slate. They will only compete against the others on the same nomination slate, whether that by MOC, Presidential or Service Connected, and can also compete for the first 150 of the NWL in OML merit. I do not think their is class composition goal for college re-applicants so it would not give a boost to an appointment in the AA bucket.

    They will not do the final evaluation on the application until they receive first semester grades. This is one of the main reasons why the first wave of appointments is not until January. If a MOC's has two college re-applicants, the academy cannot resolve the slate until all packets are final.