What scores are needed to be deemed academically qualified for USMA?

Mere2033 said:
Yes, DD took the ACT first but since she's not a fast reader she tried the new SAT. She scored really low and finally stopped at the 1200. Her ACT score was a 28 math and 25 reading. The SAT she had a 630 math and 570 reading. She just is not a great test taker so I was very shocked when she received her appointment on the first round. I thought she would get prep school first. Not a recruited athlete but plays two varsity sports, lettered in both and she went to Girls State. She's also Student Body President. I think everything piled together is what helped her since they look at the whole person.
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That's awesome. We have hope...
 
USMA 1994 said:
There are too many other factors that go into the process. They do not publish minimums, but you can see the distribution of scores in the profile. They also review your school profile as part of the process.

How competitive you are depends on who you are competing with each year. You MOC's slate may not be very strong this year and your DD's stats may have him at the top of the list, while in another year he may be at the bottom of the MOCs list. There are too many variables in play to make any assumptions. Little Johnny could get in with a 1200 while others may need a 1500 to be competitive on their slate.

The best advice is to email your RC and ask the questions like others have posted. They will usually give you a pretty good idea where your DD sits this year.
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My DD has been in communication with her RC. He just said she has her stuff in and will be fully qualified after it has been reviewed by him and two other members of the faculty there. He said they have hundreds of other files still to get qualified as well. He just said to focus on the last ACT test to make her file more competitive and to remain patient. I was just wondering how competitive she is considered, as her scores are pretty low, based on all I have read.
 
DD has been in communication with her RC. He just said she has her stuff in and will be fully qualified after it has been reviewed by him and two other members of the faculty there. He said they have hundreds of other files still to get qualified as well. He just said to focus on the last ACT test to make her file more competitive and to remain patient. I was just wondering how competitive she is considered, as her scores are pretty low, based on all I have read.
 
Mere2033 said:
One other thing, she had no correspondence indicating she would receive an appointment. No 3Q letter or anything. And her RC told her that he strongly suggests she raise her SAT scores. She took the test again in Jan. and we don't even have the results for those yet.
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DD has been in communication with her RC. He just said she has her stuff in and will be fully qualified after it has been reviewed by him and two other members of the faculty there. He said they have hundreds of other files still to get qualified as well. He just said to focus on the last ACT test to make her file more competitive and to remain patient. I was just wondering how competitive she is considered, as her scores are pretty low, based on all I have read.
 
USNA2021Cali said:
I would shoot for 30s on ACT. Most of my NASS detailers told me that across the board if you were in the 30s you were "pretty much golden". Study hard and it'll pay off! I received my Appointment in December (33 on ACT) and I hope you DD receives that appointment!
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Thank you!
 
1337BeachedWhale1337 said:
Someone's posted it before.

(9.43 x ACTM) + (4.62 x ACTE) + (0.45 x ACTS) + (4.01 x ACTR) - 41.5 = 50% of academic score

Class rank is the other 50% of academic score(which is out of 800)

If academic score is under 520 you are not academically qualified

If ACTE <23 ACTM <24 ACTR <24 or ACTS <23 you are not academically qualified.

Old data so it might not be 100% accurate today.
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Do you happen to know how the numbers add in class rank? Is it just the raw number or is it the ratio multiplied by a number? My ACT score works out well, but my school only does the decile system (or claims to), and I'm in the first decile, but my FF Rep said that that could mean top 5% or top 1% but they'll bump you down to top 10% because they "don't rank".
 
^^ If that is based on that 10 yr old Rand study often quoted on here, be sure to read the part where it says there are OTHER factors also considered in the score which are NOT covered in their analysis. Only admissions can tell you if that is the formula still in use.
 
Ajay Hariharan said:
Do you happen to know how the numbers add in class rank? Is it just the raw number or is it the ratio multiplied by a number? My ACT score works out well, but my school only does the decile system (or claims to), and I'm in the first decile, but my FF Rep said that that could mean top 5% or top 1% but they'll bump you down to top 10% because they "don't rank".
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idk man, I am but a mere Cadet Private
 
There are more factors than just purely class rank and it is a deeply held secret. What we can tell you that it is a factor of class rank and your school's academic profile. Being ranked #5 of a class of 100 where only 10% of the class attends college is probably not as good as being ranked 25 of a class of 500 where over 50% of the class enters college. The difference in a WCS will be relatively minor and outside of your control. Do your best and focus on the things you can control like extracurriculars and CFA scores.
 
Mere2033, Congrats, good to hear she got in, my boy has similar scores but we applied in USAFA and we hope they also deem him to meet the whole person concept, we are waiting for results. There may not be many but at least there is hope for those who may be in the same boat. If not, we hope for Prep school; if not, he has admission offers at 3 universities and the join college ROTC.
 
1337BeachedWhale1337 - Thanks for the formula. Can you confirm 0.45 for Science. It seems really low plus when I put in the mean ACT scores based on the Class Profile on Admissions website, the average cadet (29M, 29E, 28S, 30R) would not be academically qualified. Is that just a typo, and if so, do you know the value?

Jilera1 - It is possible that your DD is fully qualified but the RC is recommending your DD retake the SAT because there is another fully qualified candidate whose WCS is slightly higher. She could ask her RC, but sounds like some RCs share more details than others.
 
USMA Mom said:
Can you confirm 0.45 for Science.
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I can't confirm anything, I am just repeating information that was found by someone else; there is a solid chance that the formula is no longer accurate because the information was found more than a decade ago.
 
USMA Mom said:
1337BeachedWhale1337 - Thanks for the formula. Can you confirm 0.45 for Science. It seems really low plus when I put in the mean ACT scores based on the Class Profile on Admissions website, the average cadet (29M, 29E, 28S, 30R) would not be academically qualified. Is that just a typo, and if so, do you know the value?

Jilera1 - It is possible that your DD is fully qualified but the RC is recommending your DD retake the SAT because there is another fully qualified candidate whose WCS is slightly higher. She could ask her RC, but sounds like some RCs share more details than others.
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I wish he would share more, but all he told her was to take it again and do her best. He said her file had not been reviewed yet. Ugh. With a ACT/Math of 24, I am not sure if that is a disqualification score. Her SAT/Math is only 540. Everything else is on point.
 
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