What service are USMMA Midshipmen officially in?

[bubbledouble]

Hey, y'all, one thing I've always wondered... are Midshipmen at USMMA sworn into the Navy? Or no because this is not a DoD SA? I've always wondered what service they're officially sworn into.

 

[Capt MJ]

Hey, y'all, one thing I've always wondered... are Midshipmen at USMMA sworn into the Navy? Or no because this is not a DoD SA? I've always wondered what service they're officially sworn into.

Service Obligation | U.S. Merchant Marine Academy

At the Academy you will receive an excellent education and the skills necessary for a successful career. Since the Federal Government has a substantial investment in your education, you will be required to fulfill the terms of a service obligation after graduation.

www.usmma.edu

Work your way through this. It describes status pre-comm and post-comm.

 

[Don't Give Up the Ship]

Hey, y'all, one thing I've always wondered... are Midshipmen at USMMA sworn into the Navy? Or no because this is not a DoD SA? I've always wondered what service they're officially sworn into.

I believe USMMA students are appointed as "Midshipman, Merchant Marine Reserve, and U.S. Navy Reserve". I don't believe they are on "active duty" in the Navy (like USNA MIDN). The school has a small detachment of active duty US Naval Officers and enlisted that teach US Naval courses required for commission. Note the Supt. is a Vice Admiral in the U.S. Maritime Service. The school is run by the U.S. Maritime Administration. It's primary focus is to train Merchant Marine Officers with MMR Commissions to support logistics need of the U.S. Military in time of war (there would be a great need for merchant marine ships to carry troops and materials, fuel, etc. for military support. Many graduates go active duty in one of the services (primarily USN or USCG-I believe). Perhaps a recent KP grad can shed more light on this. I would like to actually see what it says on a USMMA Midshipman's ID Card.

 

[CAT5]

On Acceptance Day Plebes are sworn in as Midshipmen in the US NavyReserve. KP is comes under MARAD which is part of the Department of Transportation. During the first trimester of your 1/C (senior) year you can apply for an active duty commission with one of the service branches like Army, Navy, USMC, Air Force, USCG, and even NOAA. Approximately slightly over thirty percent of KP grads enter one of these services as an active duty commissioned officer. More complete information can be found on the usmma website regarding service commitments after graduation.

 

[beyond]

I believe USMMA students are appointed as "Midshipman, Merchant Marine Reserve, and U.S. Navy Reserve". I don't believe they are on "active duty" in the Navy (like USNA MIDN). The school has a small detachment of active duty US Naval Officers and enlisted that teach US Naval courses required for commission. Note the Supt. is a Vice Admiral in the U.S. Maritime Service. The school is run by the U.S. Maritime Administration. It's primary focus is to train Merchant Marine Officers with MMR Commissions to support logistics need of the U.S. Military in time of war (there would be a great need for merchant marine ships to carry troops and materials, fuel, etc. for military support. Many graduates go active duty in one of the services (primarily USN or USCG-I believe). Perhaps a recent KP grad can shed more light on this. I would like to actually see what it says on a USMMA Midshipman's ID Card.

This is probably the most accurate description I've read. Hit the nail on the head.

 

[KPEngineer]

As I recall, on my acceptance day paperwork it listed me as an E2 in the “Standby Reserve S-2”. The “Inactive Status List (S2)” of the Standby Reserve is basically just a list of people that the government can activate without their permission if needed.

All the different levels of reserve from Ready to Standby and Active to Inactive require different levels of authority for activation. Some only require a “state of emergency” while others a formal declaration of war. “Standby” is about as deep deep reserve you can go with the Standby Reserve only one step up from the Retired Reserve with the Retired Reserve only able to be called up with their agreement.

This was on the interweb:
“Personnel in the Inactive Status List are those Standby Reservists who are not required by law or regulation to remain in an active program and who retain their reserve affiliation in a non-participating status, and those who have skills which may be of possible future use to the Armed Forces.”

The "Merchant Marine Reserve", like the United States Mystery Service (USMS) I believe only exists within MARAD, KP, and maybe the SMAs.

 

[cmakin]

As I recall, on my acceptance day paperwork it listed me as an E2 in the “Standby Reserve S-2”. The “Inactive Status List (S2)” of the Standby Reserve is basically just a list of people that the government can activate without their permission if needed.

All the different levels of reserve from Ready to Standby and Active to Inactive require different levels of authority for activation. Some only require a “state of emergency” while others a formal declaration of war. “Standby” is about as deep deep reserve you can go with the Standby Reserve only one step up from the Retired Reserve with the Retired Reserve only able to be called up with their agreement.

This was on the interweb:
“Personnel in the Inactive Status List are those Standby Reservists who are not required by law or regulation to remain in an active program and who retain their reserve affiliation in a non-participating status, and those who have skills which may be of possible future use to the Armed Forces.”

The "Merchant Marine Reserve", like the United States Mystery Service (USMS) I believe only exists within MARAD, KP, and maybe the SMAs.

Very different from the late 70s when I was a Plebe. Not that I even remember what my acceptance day paperwork stated. I believe that we were Midshipmen, 4th Class, USNR. I do remember that we could wear the eagle then.