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Ant345

Ant345

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Unfortunately, I kinda bombed the SAT, but all the rest of my application is very strong.
I come from an underrepresented minority, I'm probably the only one that applied from my country this year.
They also told me that I have a unique background and set of skills that are of great interest to them.
I informed the West Point Admission's committee of this low score one week ago, but they didn't close my application and told me to continue my application and seek a nomination.
I am not confident that I will be able to get a nomination because of the SAT score: One Senator and the Congressman scheduled my interview for the nomination while the other senator denied me an interview (at least my State is rural and has a low population).

What's your opinion on my situation? What could happen if I don't get a nomination?
 
Never run away. If this is what you want go after that nomination / appointment and see what happens when you submit your best application, You never know. Academies have a way of finding nominations if they want you that bad.
 
Ant345 said:
Unfortunately, I kinda bombed the SAT, but all the rest of my application is very strong.
I come from an underrepresented minority, I'm probably the only one that applied from my country this year.
They also told me that I have a unique background and set of skills that are of great interest to them.
I informed the West Point Admission's committee of this low score one week ago, but they didn't close my application and told me to continue my application and seek a nomination.
I am not confident that I will be able to get a nomination because of the SAT score: One Senator and the Congressman scheduled my interview for the nomination while the other senator denied me an interview (at least my State is rural and has a low population).

What's your opinion on my situation? What could happen if I don't get a nomination?
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My opinion, is to change your mindset. You have a nomination interview (it only takes one). And West Point told you to continue your application. And they are the only opinion that matters.

Wow!! THATS AWESOME 😎!!

So, put away doubt. Put away negative thoughts. Put away wondering what might happen. Put all of that stuff away BC if it’s on your mind, it has a way of seeping out. Replace those thoughts with positive ones. When you interview with your Congress person, sell yourself! Including your unique skill set. Practice interviewing.

You may very well be a prep offer student (no nom required)! So be prepared to say YES enthusiastically to that most excellent offer. Also make sure you have a solid back up plan.

It’s more than academics. You can see that from published class profiles. Good luck!!

adding this thought…was this your only test sitting? If not, do you have a plan to improve that score?? You will be asked. Have a plan. Somone who shows they REALLY want it, imo, will have a study plan for the NEXT sitting. And/or take the ACT (bc you may very well do better on one test than the other). But be prepared to address that piece. It will probably come up, formally or informally (ie if USMA sees you submit additional scores…with improvement).
 
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deleting my duplicate post. That was weird 🤔
 
Ant345 said:
They also told me that I have a unique background and set of skills that are of great interest to them.
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Would you mind telling us what your unique set of skills is?

Also, I agree with taking the SAT again or try the ACT. You say you bombed the SAT so that tells me you can improve your score with simple test taking tactics. It's too late to increase your knowledge but you can work on your test taking skills. Get plenty of sleep the night before. Be at the door and ready to walk in when they let you, in other words, don't walk in as the proctor opens the script to start reading. It stresses you and makes me huff if I am the proctor and have to wait for you to get your head on straight. Focus on one thing at a time once the proctor starts. Don't think about the test until the form is filled out. Then focus on one section at a time. Clear your mind on the breaks. Eat a snack and drink water. Don't be late coming back from the restroom. Good luck.
 
Ant345 said:
I'm probably the only one that applied from my country this year.
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Sorry in advance for being harsh but you are stepping on my nerves.
You talk about Senator and Representative interviews so you are not a foreign national. In that case, I'd estimate that there are well over
10,000 applicants from "your" country. If it's not "your" country, then do you really want to serve it or is this about the education?
 
OldRetSWO said:
Sorry in advance for being harsh but you are stepping on my nerves.
You talk about Senator and Representative interviews so you are not a foreign national. In that case, I'd estimate that there are well over
10,000 applicants from "your" country. If it's not "your" country, then do you really want to serve it or is this about the education?
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No, I mean that from where I live and I grew up my whole life I'm probably the only one applying. But because my last legal residence is in a certain US state I have to apply for a nomination in that state. Is not about education either as I'm attending a top University in my country with a scholarship. Is about the desire to serve. I think that there has been a misunderstanding on what I meant to say: When I say my country I refer to the country I'm resident in.
 
Ant345 said:
No, I mean that from where I live and I grew up my whole life I'm probably the only one applying. But because my last legal residence is in a certain US state I have to apply for a nomination in that state. Is not about education either as I'm attending a top University in my country with a scholarship. Is about the desire to serve. I think that there has been a misunderstanding on what I meant to say: When I say my country I refer to the country I'm resident in.
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Waaait a minute, so I put up that awesome post for...? I'm confused.
 
A1Janitor said:
What countries are you a citizen of?
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A European country, so accepting an appointment offered by West Point would mean losing my 2nd citizenship and a lot of government benefits that come with it: Free Healthcare (Including Free Dentist, any Medication I need is free, and free Ambulance whenever I need it), almost free university, free University books and a 500 Euros government bonus to buy a PC, a universal basic income of at least 1000 Euros if I end up unemployed, 30 days of guaranteed vacation every year, unlimited sick days at work, etc. This should prove that I have no economic interest in applying to West Point.
 
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Ant345 said:
A European country, so applying to West Point would mean losing my 2nd citizenship and a lot of government benefits that come with it:
Free Healthcare (Including Free Dentist, any Medication I need is free, and free Ambulance whenever I need it), almost free university, free University books and a 500 Euros government bonus to buy a PC, a universal basic income of at least 1000 Euros if I end up unemployed, 30 days of guaranteed vacation every year, unlimited sick days at work, etc. This should prove that I have no economic interest in applying to West Point.
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I think you don’t mean the act of applying, but of accepting an appointment and attending USMA, which would result in loss of another citizenship’s benefits.

USMA cadets are active duty, so they have free inclusive medical, dental and pharmacy benefits. The education is free, in exchange for at least 6 years of obligated service after commissioning. Once commissioned, there is immediate employment, full benefits, earning up to 30 days’ leave/year, opportunity to invest for retirement with matching funds, many untaxed benefits, opportunities for fully paid graduate degree, etc.

The key is if you want to serve as a US Army officer. If you do, go for it.
 
Our family lived the expat life in Europe for several years, so I understand the many perks you may need to give up by accepting an appointment to USMA. If, as an American citizen living in Europe, you’re willing to serve and defend and potentially make the ultimate sacrifice for the U.S., I say God bless you! Wish there were more like you.

Do what you need to do, what USMA is encouraging you to do. Then let the chips fall where they may. I hope it works out.
 
MidCakePa said:
Our family lived the expat life in Europe for several years, so I understand the many perks you may need to give up by accepting an appointment to USMA. If, as an American citizen living in Europe, you’re willing to serve and defend and potentially make the ultimate sacrifice for the U.S., I say God bless you! Wish there were more like you.

Do what you need to do, what USMA is encouraging you to do. Then let the chips fall where they may. I hope it works out.
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Thank you very much
 
Also, you don’t have to decide today. Get the appointment first.

I’m genuinely curious why, with all those benefits of your COUNTRY, you would want to give that up? Especially spending your whole life in the European country. I’m not being nosey. I’m fascinated!
 
Your willingness to apply and if accepted serve the US of A is awesome. As others have said, make them tell you no. As @justdoit19 said, change your mindset.
Negative thoughts seep out and appear as lack of commitment, lack of confidence, and insecurity.
Practice interviewing.
Make NO excuses as to your test score. Own it and have a plan to improve. Know your strengths and be able to articulate them. Know why you want to serve and what career within the Army you can see yourself in. What kind of leader are you?

Good luck to you, you are an interesting applicant and one who likely has a unique life experience that could be great essay and talking point material.
 
So you are a US citizen with dual citizenship and you live in another country? You are not applying as a foreign exchange type of student who on graduation would serve in a different military?

Right there I see someone with a resume that would jump right at me in terms of initial interest.

is significant foreign language speaking like a local a special skill set for you?

we are all friends here——how bad were the SATs?

With special skills that the military may want, your SATs may not be the problem you think.

Besides there is always prep school if they really want you but they think you need a little extra seasoning.

And try to sign up for several more tests if you can as has been suggested

good luck
 
UPDATE, I made it!!

I received multiple Nominations, it ended up much better than I could ever hope 😁
Now I will finish the last things and cross my fingers 🤞.

PS: I hope this could serve as a motivation to others, always work hard, cultivate your passions and give it a try, you never know.....
 
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Capt MJ said:
I think you don’t mean the act of applying, but of accepting an appointment and attending USMA, which would result in loss of another citizenship’s benefits.

USMA cadets are active duty, so they have free inclusive medical, dental and pharmacy benefits. The education is free, in exchange for at least 6 years of obligated service after commissioning. Once commissioned, there is immediate employment, full benefits, earning up to 30 days’ leave/year, opportunity to invest for retirement with matching funds, many untaxed benefits, opportunities for fully paid graduate degree, etc.

The key is if you want to serve as a US Army officer. If you do, go for it.
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My DS will relinquish his dual citizenship to serve, He knew well before he applied and understands and agrees with the reasons behind it. He made his decision to serve and we support him 100%
 
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