When do Denials usually come?

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the_yeti2351

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Does the USAFA even send out denials? If so, when do do they usually come or how would I be notified?
 
I called my admissions counselor at USAFA two days ago and she told me that everyone with be notified of their status by the end of April.
 
Denial letters for NROTC

Does the Navy send a denial letter if you only applied and didn't get a NROTC scholarship? Just curious!
 
first you have to have a negative attitude. Understand that everything you put into your brain will happen.

Next they send you a letter.
 
I spoke to our admissions counselor and she said everyone will know one way or another by April 1st....not end of April as was written further up....anyway...we'll see.

And yes, I heard they do send denial letters. Some people receive denial letters and then get into the prep school so you never know...but usually they happen pretty close to one another....not sure which comes first or even if one must go out first or not.
 
i never got a denial letter, just an appointment to the usafa prep school.
 
I'm just curious for the people who get their letters only a few weeks before I-Day. Do they not find out until almost the last minute or do they get a denial and then get told later on that they've been accepted?
 
they won't send a denial and then "change their mind".. i don't think.

unless some deny their acceptances.. i guess then it would be possible.
 
CadCandMateus said:
they won't send a denial and then "change their mind".. i don't think.

unless some deny their acceptances.. i guess then it would be possible.
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People denying their acceptances was what I was considering. But I guess if someone gets a denial then that's all they'll get. I would think they would save the borderline candidates for last minute.
 
First, I am assuming you mean declined, not denial. Next, I may be incorrect, but the SA's typically don't send out declined letters, instead, they send out waitlisted letters. This allows them to go back into the pool if needed.

Every yr there will be stories of 1 or 2 cadets that get the call days before I-Day, but realize that is 1 or 2, not tons. Remember, the SA's are like other universities, they build into their apptmt equation a % will decline their apptmt. Typically they offer @1600 candidates an apptmt, but if you look at the I-Day numbers they have @1350 show up. Thus, they are going to go through 250 people before that last minute phone call occurs to take somebody off the NWL.

Don't start going insane yet, you will quickly see when the Mass Mailing goes out, the boards will light up like crazy and it usually is around this week or next. Until then just hold on tight. Good luck!
 
From our Air Force Academy councilor:
"All candidates receiving an appointment should be notified by the end of March 10 by their respective nominating office. If not appointed, a “Qualified No Vacancy (QNV) letter should be in the mail by the end of the first week in April 10."

And I believe this means the end of the month...As in March 2010 and April 2010.
 
Actually your quote states first week of April.

Seriously, watch the board, it will light up, it usually is about 7-10 days of mass mailing. If they stay to the traditional schedule, by the week before the last week of March, all of the Mass will go out.
 
PIMA, you are correct...guess I was focusing on the appointment portion of the quote! In any case, the waiting should be over soon for most.
 
As far as being notified, Is it true that DODMERB is updated first then a possible e-mail, then MOC contact and then the BFE in the mail. Just wondering the process. It isn't all that clear. Thanks for all the information that is put out. I and alot of people really appreciate it.:thumb:
 
It has been our experience that DODMERB is updated first...no emails. Package (or BFE) to arrive about a week to 10 days after DODMERB change.
 
I have a very hard time believing that the academy would change it's mind after a flat-out denial letter is sent. They have the NWL for a reason--for candidates who probably won't get in, but they don't necessarily want to cut out yet. If you get a denial, they're pretty darn sure that there won't be a spot for you this year.
 
I'm amazed that DODMERB is able to support our near constant requests to their database. I wouldn't be surprised if we brought their servers down this week :biggrin:
 
future, you are missing the point, there is no decline letter, as in Thanks, but no thanks, now move on.

The decline letter is you have not been offered an apptmt at this time, but are on our NWL and we will let you know. In essence, the SA decline is on the same level as being waitlisted by a traditional college.

Honestly, the "traditional university" decline letter for many came back in Feb when they nom slates officially closed and tha candidate did not get one. That was the true Thanks, but No Thanks moment we will not in a snow balls chance in Hades be offering you an apptmt.
 
Well, of course DODMRB has to be updated to show you are qualified before anything further can be done. But there are plenty of people who had DODMRB updated with qualified back in August-September.

As for being notified, that can and is many times unique to the individual. It depends on WHO the nominator is and their procedure in notifying individuals. Sometimes, they simply don't notify the individuals at all. I have seen ALL of the following scenarios first hand.

1. BFE appears in mail; 2 days later updated online to appointment offered; notified by MOC or ALO a couple days later.
2. Online updates to appointment offered; 3-4 days later the BFE arrived in the mail; NO ONE notified the individual.
3. MOC or ALO notifies individual; BFE arrives in mail; 2 days later online status changes to appointment offered.
4. BFE arrives in mail; online status didn't change for more than a week until the individual called their counselor; no one contacted the individual.

I have seen all 4 of these scenarios first hand. Now, mix up all 4 of the scenarios to create other scenarios, and I'm sure those happened to. The best advice is to stay in communications with your ALO. S/He can check status' and make phone calls to find answers to your questions. Appointments don't all go out on the same day. They are going to be giving out appointments every day. How you are notified is not set in stone. If you can think of the scenario, it has happened that way at least once before. Best of luck. Mike....
 
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