When do programs know you’ve applied for scholarship?

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  1. jrwork

    jrwork Member

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    At what point are AROTC schools notified that they are listed as a school of intent? DS received a letter today from a school encouraging him to select their program but he wasn’t awarded a scholarship on the 1st board so it’s strange to me that he got a “congratulations” and “please choose us” letter.
     
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    clarksonarmy Recruiting Operations Officer at Clarkson Army 5-Year Member

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    Here’s one of my blog posts that may answer your question.

    https://goldenknightbattalion.com/2016/03/08/what-can-a-roo-see/

    Bottom line is some programs choose to “SPAM” the entire list of applicants. Most ROOs frown on this. Could you imagine if all 270+ programs decided to contact every applicant and ask them to consider their program. You’ll never get contacted by Clarkson Army ROTC unless you have listed my school or otherwise expressed interest in being part of the Golden Knight Battalion.
     
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  3. jrwork

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    So basically if they are looking for students that meet their criteria, they can get the info. Exactly what I needed to do. I don’t think this a spamming situation. It’s from a school DS has listed. Thanks so much for the info.
     
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    clarksonarmy Recruiting Operations Officer at Clarkson Army 5-Year Member

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    If it’s from a school on your son’s list, then I would hope that program would be reaching out....but you would be surprised how many programs take the HS scholarship process for granted. I touch base each year with my 80+ applicants and hope to convince all of them that we are the best choice.
     
  5. militarymomcpg

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    Since the school is on his list, I would definitely have him respond to the email expressing his interest and confirming that he has submitted his application. My son did receive a scholarship and got an email from a school that was not on his list encouraging him to apply because of the scholarship so we have been trying to discern the same thing. Was this a mass email or was it really personal to him? Hard to know, but it sure can't hurt to respond if you have interest. Best of luck to your son!!!
     
  6. jrwork

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    This was a letter in the mail, not an email. He has been in touch with the ROO at this school through the whole process as this is his first choice school (outside of USMA). The letter is from the PMS. I assume it is a mail merge thing that his assistant or whoever did but we were still suprised to get it. Interestingly, he hasn't heard from any of the other schools on his list.

    Which brings me to another question, DS only listed three schools and honestly, one of them really isn't a consideration for him as he really didn't care for the school. Interestingly, he was impressed with their ROTC but that doesn't balance out the school. Does it hurt to have only a couple schools listed? DS really wants to take the third one off altogether.
     
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    kinnem Moderator 5-Year Member

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    Having more is better as there are more opportunities to "slot" you, but I'm personally of the opinion that you have to go with your gut/heart. If he is really only interested in 2 or 3 then so be it. Just my 2 cents. That being said I wouldn't remove anything from his list. If he is only offered the third school he can try to do a transfer, and failing that he can decline.... but there is no reason to make that decision now. Only cross the bridge when you come to it... and when you get to the fork in the road, take it! :rolleyes:
     
  8. Overwhelmed

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    DS was awarded top 3 schools. School 1 is where he interviewed. It is his reach school. He alerted them about his scholarship and they congratulated him and said they would get back to him if he gets in. School 2 has been very interested in him. They invited him to the campus. They have had 2 cadets contact him and they even arranged to have someone speak to him about his intended major. Academically he would be fit right in with their student body.
    School 3 is his safety school. It has been crickets. No contact whatsoever.
    What I found interesting is that 2 of the other colleges on his list of 7 have been contacting him with instructions on how to choose them if he desires.
     
  9. jrwork

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    DS has already been accepted to both schools he would consider. The third he hasn't even applied, and doesn't plan to. Now I wonder if he should spread his wings just a little and pick a couple more schools. But he really only wants to go to one of the two, or MJC as a last resort. Well, really enlisting right out of high school is a last resort ;)
     
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    jebdad 5-Year Member

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    This is our first go 'round with AROTC scholarship process and in some respects I find it fascinating. Recently, my DD received an email from an Ivy League school that she had not listed on her list of schools. They congratulated her on the scholarship, instructed her to accept it to one of her listed schools and then to apply to this Ivy and consider transferring the scholarship.

    DD has already accepted her scholarship to her first choice.

    I would not have thought that an Ivy League school would need to do this type of outreach. My DD is a fine prospect but certainly not a "no brainer" for any Ivy. It got me thinking why the outreach? Does this school actually not get the AROTC numbers they need? Does this school sees $$ in regard to federal money paying full tuition?
     
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    kinnem Moderator 5-Year Member

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    Surely there are more than 2 schools in this great country that would appeal to him. Life isn't perfect and there are always trade-offs, but there has to be a couple more where the trade-offs work to his advantage. Again, he can always decline on offer to any additional schools. But, of course, it's his decision.
     
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  12. jrwork

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    Well, one thing you have to understand is that this ROTC or SA option is a compromise with him after he announced at the beginning of his junior year that he would skip college and enlist. Getting him to the point of agreeing to visit colleges alone was a bit of a battle. Once he sets his mind on something, it isn't easy to sway him. I've told him that between now and the next board, he should maybe consider looking at a few more schools. He said, "I'll think about it" and then proceeded to email the ROO at his top choice and ask his opinion LOL
     
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    kinnem Moderator 5-Year Member

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    LOL! I completely understand. My son's original plan was to enlist in the Corps with a couple buddies. Mom didn't want him in the Corps at all. She finally compromised but insisted he join as an officer and (therefore) do college first. Thus was born a ROTC midshipman. Of the two buddies, one enlisted in the Corps and the other did AFROTC.
     
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    Yep, his dad is an Army vet and told him, "boy, you want to do this as an officer" :)
     
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    The same thing happened to my son. An Ivy that was not on his list has reached out to him and encouraged him to apply. He was trying to decide if that really meant anything, as he is potentially interested in the school. I am curious if it is the same one. He has decided to apply but is leaving his scholarship where it is for now but may transfer if he gets into the Ivy (and does not get an appointment to USMA which is really his top choice)
     
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    Same thing for my DS. He received a congratulatory email from an IVY (probably same one as your son) asking if he had ever considered this school. He has already accepted his scholarship and has been admitted into his school of choice but it got him thinking. If he were to apply and get accepted into a long shot school that was not on his original list of schools could he apply/request to have the scholarship transferred? Or does the school need to already have been on his original list.
     
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    Same thing happened to DS. It must be the same school. The email started with “Congratulations to all”. It had him thinking as well. I guess their tactic works!
     
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    jebdad 5-Year Member

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    It just seemed strange to me. I would think Cornell would have all of the applicants they would want.
     
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    Jcleppe 5-Year Member

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    Schools that have a very low acceptance percentage rate need to cast a larger net for ROTC applicants then other schools.