Who throws a shoe??

Points have been made, maybe the points are a little too "real world" for a high school senior? :rolleyes:
 
Haha you are too funny. In almost all of your posts you give me a good laugh :D
 
unitedstatesAFA2013 said:
Who's talking about loving a president on a global scale? I'm talking about respecting.
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The only time an American President is openly respected overseas is when they like him, and that means that he's giving them what they want, which is usually against OUR best interests. They respect President Bush, but they'll never admit it because that will require them to admit that they FEAR him, which suits me just fine.

Yes, Clinton was loved overseas, but that was because he was too busy getting serviced under his desk to bother such peace-loving individuals as Hussein, Arafat, and Bin Laden. You can see how well THAT worked out. Meanwhile, the IT bubble was running rampant (never mind that it was fake), the Cold War was over (thank you, Mr. Reagan), and "Decade of Greed" (that's a laugh) gave way to the Decade of Selfishness and Denial. But hey, the President was popular overseas, right?

This poor guy who is heading out now, for all his strengths and weaknesses, had to deal with issues that would have had Clinton curled up under his desk, alone, sucking his thumb in panic. He did what he thought best to keep this nation safe, and that of course pissed off some of the people who liked the status quo or who will hate the United States no matter what it does.

I wonder what that "brave" Iraqi reporter would have experienced if he'd thrown a shoe at Saddam Hussein? :rolleyes:

Instead, he is heralded as a hero among those who hate the United States in general, and by fools within our own border who have allowed political hatred to blind them to the fact that the idiot shoe-thrower is now FREE enough to pull such a stunt specifically BECAUSE of they guy he was aiming at.

His term's near being over and he has the lowest approval ratings ever.
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You obviously weren't around for one Jimmy Carter. If you think things are bad now, and that the Presidential approval numbers are low, you haven't seen anything. BTW, Congress' approval rating is even lower than Bush's, and unless I'm mistaken, it's gone DOWN since the election.

So I guess I, sort of, understand where you're coming from if I was in the military. But I'm not, not yet, so we have two different views.
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Then listen to those who are or have been. They have EXPERIENCE, which is worth a LOT more than whatever you are learning in school or hearing from a bunch of reporters. ESPECIALLY reporters.
 
I was in Baghdad on the day of the shoe throwing incident and saw our Ambassador the next day. He didn't seem too concerned about it.

What our news media focused on was the minority of Iraqis who think the 'reporter' is a hero. Of course it is not convenient for the Bush haters who produce the news to tell the folks back home that the majority of Iraqis will grudgingly admit that the Americans are the best thing that ever happened to them. Where I live and work in Iraq, the locals do not want to see the Americans leave. If I've heard "thank you for what you (Americans) have done for us (Iraqis) once, I've heard it ten thousand times.
 
Man, that really is good to hear.

Ingratitude is one of those things that REALLY just sets me off. I'm glad to once again hear information direct from the source, rather than through the propaganda filter that masquerades as "journalism" these days.

You stay safe, buddy! :smile:
 
I just saw in the Omaha World-Herald today that they haven't heard from this journalist in almost a month. His family hasn't talked to him in a while, and says he looked like he was beaten. Propaganda?

I'll see if I can dig up the article.
 
Hey Commissioner, thanks for the first hand report. It is great to hear from you!
 
Zaphod said:
The only time an American President is openly respected overseas is when they like him, and that means that he's giving them what they want, which is usually against OUR best interests. They respect President Bush, but they'll never admit it because that will require them to admit that they FEAR him, which suits me just fine.

Yes, Clinton was loved overseas, but that was because he was too busy getting serviced under his desk to bother such peace-loving individuals as Hussein, Arafat, and Bin Laden. You can see how well THAT worked out. Meanwhile, the IT bubble was running rampant (never mind that it was fake), the Cold War was over (thank you, Mr. Reagan), and "Decade of Greed" (that's a laugh) gave way to the Decade of Selfishness and Denial. But hey, the President was popular overseas, right?

This poor guy who is heading out now, for all his strengths and weaknesses, had to deal with issues that would have had Clinton curled up under his desk, alone, sucking his thumb in panic. He did what he thought best to keep this nation safe, and that of course pissed off some of the people who liked the status quo or who will hate the United States no matter what it does.

I wonder what that "brave" Iraqi reporter would have experienced if he'd thrown a shoe at Saddam Hussein? :rolleyes:

Instead, he is heralded as a hero among those who hate the United States in general, and by fools within our own border who have allowed political hatred to blind them to the fact that the idiot shoe-thrower is now FREE enough to pull such a stunt specifically BECAUSE of they guy he was aiming at.



You obviously weren't around for one Jimmy Carter. If you think things are bad now, and that the Presidential approval numbers are low, you haven't seen anything. BTW, Congress' approval rating is even lower than Bush's, and unless I'm mistaken, it's gone DOWN since the election.



Then listen to those who are or have been. They have EXPERIENCE, which is worth a LOT more than whatever you are learning in school or hearing from a bunch of reporters. ESPECIALLY reporters.
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Thanks Zaphod, spot on! :thumb:
 
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