Will NROTC deny applicants with a suspension for fighting?

Patches2010

Patches2010

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My question is quite simple,

Will NROTC deny applicants with a suspension on their high school record from fighting? No cops or law enforcement involved.
 
From your previous posts, it appears that you are a junior. You are competing against the best of the best. Any blemish on your high school record counts.
 
Possibly. I certainly know of midshipmen who were dropped because of bar room brawls.
That being said there is only one way to know for certain - apply.
 
kinnem said:
Possibly. I certainly know of midshipmen who were dropped because of bar room brawls.
That being said there is only one way to know for certain - apply.
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Also the young man is in high school. Perhaps a letter of recommendation from a school counselor that you have learned from this incident would help as well.
 
For sure this is not a yes/no answer. Absolutely no way to know. It’s not written anywhere (I don’t believe) in the application instructions that having a suspension for fighting is a disqualifying thing as far as if one can apply.

You will need to address it for sure. Not sure if it’s an outright question on the application or not, but you will need to address it somewhere (a learning experience in your essay? In your interview? How did you grow from the experience? How did your perspective change?).

Candidates aren’t expected to be perfect. They are looking for well-rounded future leaders who are able to learn and grow.

The answer is NROTC won’t deny you a chance to apply. It’s up to you as to how you present the situation as one of growth in your character, presuming that it did.
 
I have foggy recall but where would this even enter into the application process?

Apply and see what happens.

I personally don’t buy into “the best of the best” rhetoric. Exceptional, real, high character people? Yes. But they don’t have to walk on water.
 
USMCGrunt said:
I personally don’t buy into “the best of the best” rhetoric. Exceptional, real, high character people? Yes. But they don’t have to walk on water.
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As the father of a mid who recorded an exceptional academic record, exhibited strong leadership and possesses very high character, I agree with this statement. “Best of the best” sounds great — and self-redeeming for us parents who raised them — but frankly it’s hyperbolic. Yes, most are pretty incredible kids. Some are beyond belief. But there are many who will make you shake your head and say, “how in the world...”. Equally important, there are many who are just as good or even better who chose a different path, namely ROTC at a civilian college. And that’s just those who choose a military career.

Mids and cadets at SAs tend to be special. But “best of the best” — a bit much.
 
MidCakePa said:
As the father of a mid who recorded an exceptional academic record, exhibited strong leadership and possesses very high character, I agree with this statement. “Best of the best” sounds great — and self-redeeming for us parents who raised them — but frankly it’s hyperbolic. Yes, most are pretty incredible kids. Some are beyond belief. But there are many who will make you shake your head and say, “how in the world...”. Equally important, there are many who are just as good or even better who chose a different path, namely ROTC at a civilian college. And that’s just those who choose a military career.

Mids and cadets at SAs tend to be special. But “best of the best” — a bit much.
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And exceptional kids still make mistakes. Doesn’t mean they aren’t exceptional people. It means they are human. The important thing that shows character, imo, is growth and learning. One can learn a lot from failures/mistakes.

I’m not sure if it was the NROTC or SA app, but one or both asks specifically ‘have you ever been suspended’ or something to that effect.
 
Best of the best seems more like an army navy football cliche.

The best of the best go to Ivy’s, state schools, enlist, go work, goto trade schools, etc. There is a need for top students anywhere and everywhere.

Everyone has a different path based on many variables.
 
I'd imagine when the suspension occurred could be relevant. If the suspension was in your freshman year, it would be less of an issue than if it were in your senior year. I also agree with the above posts that what you learned and how you grew from the experience would be a consideration.
 
Aztec Tiger said:
THIS IS A JOKE!!!
“If he is thinking about Marines, they will likely promote him!”:oops2:
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I was gonna say, go Marine Option. This may count as bonus points. Just kidding. It's not a good thinh at all.

But everyone makes mistakes. And, maybe it was self defense. I think a letter from faculty explaining what happened and how the candidate has grown from the experience could help. Nobody is perfect. We all have made mistakes in the past.
 
"Best of the Best" is also a so bad, it's really good movie starring Eric Roberts, James Earl Jones, the late Chris Penn, and others. Smile, y'all:p
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I disagree on the suggestions about a letter from school counselor or faculty about what happened and/or what the applicant has learned from this. Better for the applicant to explain this himself/herself.
 
ProudDad17 said:
I disagree on the suggestions about a letter from school counselor or faculty about what happened and/or what the applicant has learned from this. Better for the applicant to explain this himself/herself.
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You may be right. Depends on the circumstances, but if the candidate gets as far as an interview, he will have a chance to explain himself and should be ready to do so
 
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