Will West Point let me retake the CFA?

USMA - You absolutely CAN be denied an appointment solely for not passing the CFA.
If you are being considered for an appointment and your CFA is subpar; admissions may ask you to take it again for improvement.

Prior to taking the CFA, it is imperative that you read the instructions thoroughly and follow them. Pay attention to the technique for each exercise - especially the push-ups, sit-ups and pull-ups.
Once you reach the max on any event you are to stop counting.
 
let me put this whole thing to rest. Yes you can resubmit, however your regional commander has to authorize the retest, when you submit your scores on the portal they lock in unless you get resubmission approval. I did this when I applied last year and was admitted, so I know for a fact that with special approval you can retest.
 
but better yet, you will be doing yourself a favor if you just get in shape and pass with flying colors first go around. Because if you don't pt before you get here, especially run (I swam so I was not used to it at all) it will rip you apart.
 
thanks for the insight chewy. my regional admissions officer authorized me to take the cfa again too. it was a little frustrating because my file is finished and i already passed it twice, but we spoke on the phone and he said that it was the pullups that got to me.

it was a little odd that i am able to max out on everything else but cannot do a single pullup! typical girl :)

i realized that most people can't do pullups cause they're not used to it. so i hit the iron..
so advice to anyone who is being "authorized" to retake the cfa: PRACTICE! if they care enough about you to make you take it again you better show them that you've been trying.
 
thanks for the insight chewy. my regional admissions officer authorized me to take the cfa again too. it was a little frustrating because my file is finished and i already passed it twice, but we spoke on the phone and he said that it was the pullups that got to me.

I'm a little confused.
You say you passed it twice but that your admissions officer authorized you to take it again because "it was the pull-ups that got to me"
If you passed it twice ( if you passed - why did you take it again?) why were you authorized to take it again ? :confused:
 
Follow-Up

So I retook my CFA and am sending these scores in:

68.7 BBALL throw
9 pullups
9.5 shuttle
95 Situps
63 Pushups
7.40 mile

Miles a little low, but I think i'll be able to pull it up with my other scores. Significantly better overall from my last CFA.
 
So I retook my CFA and am sending these scores in:

68.7 BBALL throw
9 pullups
9.5 shuttle
95 Situps
63 Pushups
7.40 mile

Miles a little low, but I think i'll be able to pull it up with my other scores. Significantly better overall from my last CFA.

Much better. I did worse than you on everything except pull ups, shuttle run, and mile, and I still passed. Probably doesn't look too good though.
 
Much better. I did worse than you on everything except pull ups, shuttle run, and mile, and I still passed. Probably doesn't look too good though.

Well, in that case he did better than you on only half the test, so it's a wash. The mile time is important. If you assume you maintain the same pace for 2 miles (which you won't, your second mile will be slower), anything over a 7:30 for a male is cause for concern.
 
Well Scout, I ran a 22:30 3-Mile Run for the MArine Corps PFT, so I think I'm good on distance. Before I ran the mile today, I puked. On top of that, I was running on a stress fracture. I normally don't make excuses, [deleted] so I figured I would just give you all the facts before you start trashing me.
 
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Well Scout, I ran a 22:30 3-Mile Run for the MArine Corps PFT, so I think I'm good on distance. Before I ran the mile today, I puked. On top of that, I was running on a stress fracture. I normally don't make excuses, [deleted] so I figured I would just give you all the facts before you start trashing me.

Oh good, another one. :rolleyes:

If you have it all figured out, young buck, then there's no need to be here posting is there?
 
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Be careful, your character is showing.

I am saddened that you equate my honest assessment of the waivers you need and an objective, fact-based remark about CFA scores and strong/weak run times with something other than honest truth. If you are that offended, the Army may not be the best line of work.

I'm sure the mods will handle this appropriately.
 
Dude, just shut up and stop bothering kids on this site looking for a little advice.

IDK where you came from or what school you went to or what you do in life, but I can tell you one thing.

FYI, cmccollum4693, scoutpilot is a West Point grad.

FYI#2, during Beast, you will hear few "words of encouragement and wise advice." A thick hide is essential.
 
Well Scout, I ran a 22:30 3-Mile Run for the MArine Corps PFT, so I think I'm good on distance. Before I ran the mile today, I puked....................................... I normally don't make excuses,
LOL. Not an excuse. You fell victim to the purpose of the test. Overall fitness. Did you:
68.7 BBALL throw
9 pullups
9.5 shuttle
95 Situps
63 Pushups
in 5 minute intervals before you 'smoked' the USMC PFT? If not, your time is irrelevant. Listen to scout's advice.

............. the Army may not be the best line of work.
Don't worry. He will never make it through Beast.
 
I am not one to post much on this forum but I wanted to address your comments to Scout Pilot. You need to really consider what career you are seeking. Posting comments like this on a message board is not the smartest thing you could do. My son has had the opportunity to seek advise from Scout Pilot and will tell you he is a true hero to many of the canidates. Scout thanks for the straight to the point advise
 
I am not one to post much on this forum but I wanted to address your comments to Scout Pilot. You need to really consider what career you are seeking. Posting comments like this on a message board is not the smartest thing you could do. My son has had the opportunity to seek advise from Scout Pilot and will tell you he is a true hero to many of the canidates. Scout thanks for the straight to the point advise

Thanks for the kind words, Terry. Hopefully I didn't steer your son too far afield! :thumb:
 
Scout Pilot I think you have been a terrifc guide for many. I hope on day to get to meet you and shake you had and tell you thanks.
 
I'm sorry for controversy. To set the record straight, I didn't post what I did because of criticism. I said what I said because of respect. The moment he stopped respecting me just because I needed a waiver, I admit I lost my respect for him. And if that's bad character, then so be it. Let thou without sin cast the first stone. Scout, I'm sorry I insulted you, and I admit I should have limited any problems between us to a message. I hope you accept this apology, and we can get past it.
 
Scout has helped me, and I'm applying to USNA.
Keep on giving advice Scout, you've helped me.
 
I'm sorry for controversy. To set the record straight, I didn't post what I did because of criticism. I said what I said because of respect. The moment he stopped respecting me just because I needed a waiver, I admit I lost my respect for him. And if that's bad character, then so be it. Let thou without sin cast the first stone. Scout, I'm sorry I insulted you, and I admit I should have limited any problems between us to a message. I hope you accept this apology, and we can get past it.

Please do not confuse my honest assessment of your chances for a waiver, in light of ten years of experience, with any respect or disrespect. I merely gave you the realistic answer to the questions you posed. I am a sycophant for no man, especially a candidate I don't know.

You seem to have taken umbrage with the fact that I didn't fall all over myself telling you that you're the one kid with a dead-bang guaranteed waiver. You're not. No one is, simply because this is the most competitive it's ever been for a USMA appointment. There are way too many variables.

The bottom line is this: if you want honest answers, I'll give them to you. That includes the honest truth that asthma waivers are not the easiest waiver to come by, especially when applications are sky-high and the class will be smaller. Unfortunately, you confused my unwillingness to be your cheerleader with a loss of respect. That is not the case. Facts are facts. As Dixieland pointed out, if a cheerleader is what you seek then you would be better off changing your schema. The military, especially combat arms branches, are not given to that type of encouragement.

If you want someone to blow smoke up your fourth-point-of-contact (you can guess what that means), I'm probably not the guy to ask.

As for whether or not you respect me, I assure you that such notions are immaterial to me, and to my desire to be helpful here. I earn my keep everyday as an officer in the United States Army, in an exceptional unit with the greatest professionals the Army has to offer. I come here to help because I believe in the value of West Point, not because I want approval.

A few good takeaways from this for our candidates...

1. A good tenet of officership is keeping your cool. It's never too early to exhibit that trait.
2. If you do decide to blow your top, it's a good idea not to have a username that gives away who you are.

Let's all move on now.
 
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