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Jcc123

5-Year Member
Life is better when you're positive and upbeat. Why go through it with a chip on your shoulder. Was it necessary to tell Ryan his thoughts are "BS"? Are his opinions less valuable than yours?
Well, since he's dead, we can't exactly get his thoughts on the matter. I assume he'd be a little disappointed in how it turned out.
 
I know other Presidents have used vets but this attention went about 3.5 minutes too long. She was obviously uncomfortable and Trump kept prolonging it - so much that to me it became exploitive and cringe-worthy. It didn't help that a 5 time draft dodger was keeping the attention focussed on her. And the whole thing smelled of trying to cover up an act he described as a success but was then seen as a failure, and divert publicity from the dad who refused to be part of a political prop. Oh, and then to have Ivanka next to her - think ROTC or service will be an option promoted to her kids?
Here's an interesting article on using vets as propaganda: https://theintercept.com/2017/03/01/trumps-use-of-navy-seals-wife-highlights-all-the-key-ingredients-of-u-s-war-propaganda/
 
You're right, and I've mentioned this in another post somewhere. I do respect that McCian's kids and Biden's served (and I believe Jeb's son served). But it struck me more with Trump since he is such a hawk and so verbal about it.
 

NTWLF ONE

Member
You're right, and I've mentioned this in another post somewhere. I do respect that McCian's kids and Biden's served (and I believe Jeb's son served). But it struck me more with Trump since he is such a hawk and so verbal about it.
I believe VP Pence's son is a USMC 2LT going through flight training as well.
 
I believe VP Pence's son is a USMC 2LT going through flight training as well.
Really! That's great to hear. I looked it up and he's stationed at Naval Air Station Meridian with Training Air Wing One. Also, Tim Kaine's kid is an infantry officer and foreign security force adviser assigned to 2nd Battalion, 8th Marine Regiment, out of Camp Lejeune, II Marine Expeditionary Force (per a couple of newspapers). Personally, I wish more politicians had kids serving.
 

NTWLF ONE

Member
Really! That's great to hear. I looked it up and he's stationed at Naval Air Station Meridian with Training Air Wing One. Also, Tim Kaine's kid is an infantry officer and foreign security force adviser assigned to 2nd Battalion, 8th Marine Regiment, out of Camp Lejeune, II Marine Expeditionary Force (per a couple of newspapers). Personally, I wish more politicians had kids serving.
Agree....one of my good friends instructed young Pence in the T-45 simulator. He is in the advanced strike pipeline and will at some point be designated a Naval Aviator and fly either the AV-8B, F-18, EA-6B or if really fortunate, the F-35.
 

AF6872

10-Year Member
Scout: just to ask? You are a graduate of the USMA and a former helicopter pilot (Thank you for your service). How do you know a Navy enlisted SEAL?
 

AF6872

10-Year Member
So the answer is that "if I tell you I have to kill you". I have seen that answer before.
 
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