3 Year Advanced Designee Scholarship

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  1. spanhp8

    spanhp8 Member

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    I am a freshman in college and was awarded the 3 Year Advanced Designee Scholarship which will start my sophomore year. However, Cadet Command said that there were some upgrades for the spring semester available. I applied for the scholarship upgrade about a month ago with cadre from my school (Philadelphia area). Does anyone know anything about when word on whether or not scholarships are going to be given out? Thanks!
     
  2. dunninla

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    My DD had the same conversation with her MS-I instructor in both mid November and early Dec. She did not fill out any applications. Subsequent to those two conversations, she received an email from the Battalion, after Christmas vacation started, requesting that she fill out forms authorizing a release of information for a security review. There were 2-3 forms she downloaded from the indicated website, printed, filled out, signed, scanned and uploaded back to the website that were due by 19 Dec.

    No word since, which is expected due to the Holidays and the fact that her Battalion doesn't meet again until after her school starts second semester on 9 Jan.

    An upgrade would be really nice, but we're not counting on it. She did make Dean's List for 1st Semester and passed the APFT in October.
     
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  3. clarksonarmy

    clarksonarmy Recruiting Operations Officer at Clarkson Army

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    Unless you received a formal offer my guess is you should continue to plan for the 3AD. My understanding was that offers had to be made by the end of the semester (15 December). Each Battalion and Brigade does things a little different, so I don't know for sure what is going on in your Battalion. You would be best to ask your enrollment officer or MS instructor.
     
  4. dunninla

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    I cannot find anything specific in the PMS Procedures Manual (CCR-145-1) http://www.rotc.usaac.army.mil/command/reserve_docs/RC Website/CCR 145-1.doc regarding a 3 Yr. AD -> 3.5 Year Schoalrship upgrade, but the principles are laid out in section 8-6 for a 2 Yr. AD upgrade.

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    CCR-145-1
    Reserve Officers' Training Corps ARMY ROTC Scholarship Policy, Administrative, and Procedural Instructions

    Original Document Date: 09/09/01
    Revision Date: 02/20/04

    8-6. Two-Year Advanced Designee Requirements

    e. Headquarters, Cadet Command is the only authority for upgrading 2-year ADs to 3-year scholarships. This is to prevent inequities across the nation and allow cross-leveling of funds between Brigades to offer additional scholarships. Brigade Commanders have authority to do so on a case-by-case basis.

    (1) Each school should establish an OML containing both new 3-year applicants and previously awarded 2ADs so that ALL can be considered for a 3-year scholarship from the bde adjustment pool. The brigade provides funds, if available, for a 3-year scholarship and the PMS decides whether to give it to the new applicant or previous 2AD based on his assessment of the cadets quality and other factors. This will eliminate any unfairness due to making a 3-year offer to a lower quality student who applied after the start of the school year versus a higher quality SAL offered a 2AD the previous spring solely because all 3-year allocations were filled.

    (2) If there are no additional applicants pending offers from the brigade then there must be justification to selectively upgrade a 2AD. For instance if there’s a top quality SAL 2AD applicant whose commitment to ROTC is wavering, and upgrading to a 3-year offer would seal the deal, then brigade can provide funds to upgrade to 3-year. Otherwise, if a student is already committed to a 2AD offer and the ROTC program, the money should be used elsewhere. The brigade should fund all other 2 and 3-year applicants pending offers before considering selective 2AD upgrades.

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    That bold/italicized section seems to indicate that upgrades are reserved for the "squeeky wheel", and total yield, rather than just merit.
     
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  5. clarksonarmy

    clarksonarmy Recruiting Operations Officer at Clarkson Army

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    You are looking in a reg that is 7 years old. Might want to try finding the latest update. We've been upgrading scholarships as money becomes available. As I recall about 5 years ago almost all my 3 year scholarships got upgraded. Unfortunately it's not 5 years ago now. Money is tight, and if you didn't get an offer as you were heading home for break expect to see your scholarship next fall.
     
  6. dunninla

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    Hey Clarkson,

    Yeah, I don't think anything more current is in the public domain...
     

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