A couple NROTC Questions

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  1. ja27

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    A while back I was awarded a 4 year Navy ROTC Scholarship and have been preparing myself for when I get to college and everything starts kicking in by keeping up my academic intensity instead of slacking off and keeping up my physical fitness levels by continuing my participation in the sports I have done through all of my high school career. I wanted to know if anyone had any advice for other ways I could be preparing myself? Also, recently I requested a transfer to where my scholarship was placed at and was told I was placed on the waiting list. Does anyone have any experience with this or any idea of how long it takes to get off of the waiting list? Thank you so much!
     
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    The waiting list means that the unit/college you are trying to transfer the scholarship has already awarded all the scholarships that they can offer and they are full. Only if a scholarship winner decides not to go to that school, or is not admitted, will they offer the scholarship to transfer to someone on the wait list. You can contact the unit and inquire about where you are on the wait list and how many people usually are brought in from their wait list each year to get a sense of what this may look like. Normally things start to open up once the college's regular decisions go out and some awardees find out that they have not been admitted to the school. Also some who have received scholarships will get appointments to a service academy and they could relinquish their spot at that school. Most academy appointees do not decline their scholarships until they report to the service academy in the summer, though. It is not uncommon, though, to have the wait list transfer offer to come even just a couple of weeks before the school year starts. This happened to a classmate of my DD's for her NROTC unit. The problem is that you also have to make your own college decision by May 1st, so you will need to decide exactly what you are going to do if you don't hear by May 1st about the scholarship transfer. Are you still going to go to the college where you got the scholarship to? Are you going to go to the college that you have requested the transfer to regardless of if you get the scholarship transferred to it? Good luck.
     
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    This is not quite accurate. Being placed on the wait list does not mean an NROTC unit is full. In late winter/early spring, as many students are requesting unit transfers, the scholarship placement office as a matter of practice places students requesting a transfer on the respective wait list. After the last scholarship board wraps up, they'll start working the wait lists and moving students around, typically in mid to late April. So, just being placed on the wait list doesn't mean the unit is full in any respect, it only means they'll address your request in the near future. If you want to know how loading looks at a particular unit, just give them a call and they can help out. If you're trying to transfer in to a particular unit and they still have slots available, they'll definitely be able to assist.
     
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    That's a different perspective than how it had been explained to us. If scholarship slots were still available when the scholarship winner was selected, why would these scholarships not be awarded to the particular school if there are still slots available? Do they initially only award a certain percentage of available slots and then later place the remainder?
     
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    I can't testify to the accuracy of the description but it might work like this. When the scholarship winner was selected, a slot was available at a school that he/she preferred over the others. Thus a slot WAS awarded when they were selected. So later the student finds they were not admitted to that college and they request a transfer to a college further down their list. It's the transfer request that puts them on the waiting list.

    Again, I have no idea how this really works but I can imagine it working this way.
     
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    Yes, I can see that scenario. I guess I was thinking that somebody had "School A" as their top choice on their application, but then when they awarded their scholarship, it was not given to that school, but to "school B" on their list. My thought was that if the scholarship winner still really wanted to go to School A, they could ask to be put on their waitlist, in case a slot opened up. But I was thinking the reason that they did not get a scholarship offer to School A to begin with was because all of their scholarship slots had already been awarded. I didn't really think of the idea that the recipient may have gotten the scholarship offer to their "School A", but then decided that they didn't want to go to that school/didn't get into the school, and was now requesting it be to be transferred to "school B" which could very well still have slots, but then hey have to await the transfer process to take place to get reslotted to School B.
     
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    I'll refer you all back to my earlier post. The system is set up so that each student awarded a navy national scholarship is assigned to a unit in the week or so following selection. Placement will usually place a student at choice #1 from the list of 5 schools, unless that unit has already reached its scholarship cap. If the cap has been reached for #1, Placement will then look to #2, etc., until a student gets their initial placement. This is typically not a concern during the early boards in the fall, but it does pop up routinely in the spring for some of the heavily-requested units. Placement does not at all consider a student's odds of getting into the particular university.

    So, after scholarship selection, everyone is placed at a school, whether it was your first choice or not. If you later determine you want to change your placement (didn't get into assigned school, change of heart, family move, flipped a coin, etc.), you have to request a change of placement/wait list request. There are actually two different forms that can be used for this (found on the applicant portal on NETFOCUS), but either way, you'll typically just be thrown on the wait list for the requested school, regardless of their current scholarship loading (determined prior to each year). Yes, you will be placed on the wait list even if there are spots available.

    So why does it work that way? The Navy wants to make sure the new scholarship winners from each board (October all the way through April) each have a shot at their first choice school. Basically, Placement looks at you once after selection, places you, and then you stay at the assigned unit until after the placement for the final April board is complete. Yes, you can fill out a change of placement request or a wait list request to join the wait list for another unit, but that request won't be executed until after the last board. That way, Johnny can't jump around from unit to unit while other students (that are still being boarded) haven't yet had the opportunity to receive their initial placement. Yes, on occasion, in certain circumstances, a placement change can happen right away, but the standard practice is to throw the requesting scholarship winner on the wait list.

    Once the final board has happened and the final winners have been placed, Placement will handle all the placement changes and move students from the wait lists to the units' assigned lists based on the order in which the requests were submitted (so, submit your request early if your intention is to change placement).

    If you have concerns about whether or not you can expect to be able to change your placement to a particular unit, just call the unit and ask. They will know exactly how many slots they have left at any given time. Don't bug Placement with it, as they literally field an absurd number of these requests each season.

    Hope that helps. If you need further clarification, please just ask.
     

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