ACT scores for a LOA

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  1. Roman

    Roman Member

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    I just got my December ACT scores back and I improved significantly. All my scores are either a 30 or 31 now (except 27 for writing). I was wondering if I don't get an appointment this year and I reapplied for the Class of 2014, would those ACT scores be in the LOA range? Or would I even have a chance of an LOA next month since I haven't received a nomination yet? If someone with an LOA didn't mind sharing their scores, I would appreciate it. Thank you!
     
  2. 13ryan13

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    I got an LOA and my ACT composite was 30. My lowest category score was 28 in writing.
     
  3. buffalo

    buffalo USAFA 2013

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    If you don't mind me asking ryan, what was your AFA reconfigured GPA?

    [EDIT] an additional question... Should I not receive an appointment this year and decide to reapply for 2014 with one year of college. Will the AFA still look at the HS transcript or only the college grades?
     
  4. gdesena

    gdesena USNA Midshipman

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    I got one too. My ACT composite was 30, but my writing was only a 24. I think they liked my SAT scores better: 710-Math 720-Reading 650-Writing. Have you taken those yet?
     
  5. buffalo

    buffalo USAFA 2013

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    can't seem to edit the original post, but...

    On second thought, this information is not necessary. Never mind.
     
  6. Roman

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    Well my composite is 30 too. I'm happy. :)

    Thanks!
     
  7. buffalo

    buffalo USAFA 2013

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    I don't have a LOA or an appointment, but I will add that I also have a 30 ACT composite score. SAT was 670 math, 650 critical reading.
     
  8. bigcox

    bigcox USAFA Cadet

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    same here...
     
  9. USAFA hopeful

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    Yes they look at your high school and first semester of college grades.
     
  10. flieger83

    flieger83 Super Moderator Moderator

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    Hi Folks!

    Okay...a LOT of talk about "what does it take to get an LOA" in the SAT/ACT realm.

    From USAFA via an ALO..."it differs with each and every candidate."

    Why? Because to be honest, the later it is in the cycle, the fewer LOA's go out. That's because the AFA is in the process of building the entire class and they honestly don't have time to view "LOA" versus "appointment." I know that sounds "trite" but it's just how it is.

    LOA's are typically used EARLY in the cycle to grab those individuals that, after all their paperwork, evaluations, interviews, etc...etc...are complete, have attained a "weighted composite score" above what the AFA has deemed will be the cutoff for a "non pilot qualified" candidate.

    What we as ALO's are taught/told/reinforced is: "get your candidates to ensure their package is complete EARLY EARLY EARLY...then they can meet the first board...and ALL subsequent boards." Reasoning? If the first board meets in say, late September...and says: "We'll select 30 LOA's this board..." and there's only 100 FULLY QUALIFIED applicants with scores in the "right range" what do you think happens? LOA's are issued.

    Now...3 months later...those folks might or might NOT have gotten an LOA...as the majority of the candidates get their packages done, and the scores start to mount...it can get harder to even get appointed! However once an LOA or an appointment is issued, barring anything "oopsie" by the candidate, their offer is ALWAYS honored.

    So...bottom line: DO NOT CONCERN YOURSELF WITH GETTING AN LOA...

    Simply get the appointment...LOA's are just...eh.

    The certificate awarded to you by your VERY PROUD ALO in front of your friends, family, and school...that's what you want!

    Just my 34 cents worth.

    Steve
    USAFA ALO
    AFA '83
     
  11. Christcorp

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    Excellent description. LOA are basically just the academy's version of "Early Admissions" that ALL COLLEGES DO. There's a few additional rules and such, but the concept is basically the same. Colleges take early applications and run them through an early acceptance process. They've been offering acceptances for many years now. Same with the academy. They know what the average in EVERY category is going to be for those who get accepted each year. I.e. The incoming class of 2013 is going to have very similar gpa, ACT/SAT, EC, etc... as the class of 2012, 2011, 2010, etc... But they can tell those that are considerably above those averages.

    Just like any college, the academies want you to commit early. The sooner they can get a person to commit, the more excited that person will be and more of a chance they will accept the school. That's exactly what the other colleges did/do when putting out early acceptance letters. They are trying to get you really excited in the fall of your senior year in the hopes that you will sign and register with their school.

    Realize however that the ONLY thing you as a candidate can do towards an LOA, is to have your application 100% as soon as possible. And I'm NOT TALKING about by November. I'm talking about having it 100% complete by the first part of September. If you think back hard enough, you might remember an email/form/letter/etc... when you were first being notified about your online application. It mentioned being considered early if the APPLICATION WAS COMPLETED WITHIN 45 DAYS!!!! Yes, that is very difficult. Not impossible. Complete doesn't include the Nomination and DODMRB waivers. But those are the applications that get looked at first. If they are high above the averages based on years of data, and the academy wants you, they will offer an LOA. Unless of course you already have a presidential or other nomination. Then an LOA isn't required. They will offer you the appointment directly.

    LOA's are for many reasons. But mainly those that are very early in the application process; has a total score that based on history will put them in the top percentage whether they look now, 2 months from now, or wait until March. There are a few LOA that will be given out throughout until March, but those are very specialized.. The majority are given out in the fall and only include a couple hundred. There's a lot of different people applying to the academy. Not just the typical high school student in their senior year. There's college students; Prior enlisted military; ROTC students; students living overseas; students from U.S. Territories (puerto rico, virgin islands, guam, etc...); medical turnbacks from last year; etc.... Then, take the auto-principle nominees that each rep has (When applicable and eligible); and the process gets very interesting. I.e. 2 candidates from the same district. Both walk on water. Only one can get a principle nom. But the academy REALLY wants both. Give them an LOA to give the MOC the ability to get both in. LOA are small in number but is a powerful tool for the academy to get the best of the best and used as an early admissions tool.

    Remember; there are few things you as an applicant can do to increase your chances of an LOA. Get your application finished before September. The next thing you can do is to be the top percentage academically and in all other areas. I.e. the top 1% in your class; not the top 10%. Varsity letter 2-3 sports, not city league sports. All AP/IB classes, not just a couple classes a year. I'm not say that these are the only people who get LOA. They aren't. I'm talking about what YOU THE APPLICANT can do to increase your odds of being offered an LOA. Best of luck. Mike....
     
  12. 13ryan13

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    Haha nice
     
  13. flieger83

    flieger83 Super Moderator Moderator

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    Christcorp is dead on accurate here!

    We ALO's received our first notification of "4060's" (that's the ALO evaluation of a candidate) in late June/early July! That meant candidates had already been identified. No, nobody had nominations, DODMERB physicals, etc.

    What it meant was that some folks had already started their process and were completing it EARLY! And a complete package, minus the nomination/DODMERB portion, by the end of July...guess who meets the first board?
     

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