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Discussion in 'Naval Academy - USNA' started by crair70, Aug 11, 2011.

  1. crair70

    crair70 New Member

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    Wondering if there is a confirmed date for when the first admissions board meets? I have read Aug 26, Sept 1...?? Any BGO's out there in with inside scoop? Also wondering the status on CVW this fall? Will they still be offering this program and are there dates scheduled?
     
  2. center56

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    Just curious if anyone knew the anwser to Crair's question. Can any of the BGO's weigh in on this one?
     
  3. futuremid

    futuremid New Member

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    pretty sure it's the end of August
     
  4. Pippip

    Pippip New Member

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    I was reading through the USNA catalog (not looking for the answer) but found this:
    "The Naval Academy uses a “rolling admissions”, selection process. The Admissions Board begins meeting in September and evaluates applications as they are completed by candidates"

    Not really specific but at least its something.
     
  5. usna1985

    usna1985 Super Moderator Staff Member

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    In all seriousness, does it really matter whether it's next week or first week of September? They can't review every completed record the first week. And, the overwhelming majority of appointments won't go out until early 2012.
     
  6. Memphis9489

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    This is why there is an advantage in completing your application requirements as early as possible. You want your hat in the ring as soon as possible before the candidate pool starts getting HUGE.

    Do you want your credentials compared to 300 other candidates or 10,000?
     
  7. futuremid

    futuremid New Member

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    Ok. Please help me understand! People keep saying that if you turn your app in early, there's better chances of getting in? How does this happen? Isn't the standard the same whether you turn your app in during September January?
     
  8. Memphis9489

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    Of course, there are always minimum standards, but what is considered worthy of an appointment is always relative to those with whom you are competing. Every time the Admission Board meets they will decide to give appointments/LOAs to some that were under consideration. And the only ones being considered are those whose application has reached a point that qualifies them for consideration.

    Let's assume you have your application ready for consideration for the Board's first meeting.

    (I'm just making up these numbers - but you get the point)

    1st meeting: 300 applications are being considered.
    2nd meeting: 1000 applications are being considered.
    3rd meeting: 1600 applications are being considered.

    And so on ...

    These are accumulative. The 300 applications in the first meeting will be considered again during the 2nd meeting. Although, there are always some that are summarily rejected.

    If your application is ready at the first meeting, your application may look quite impressive when compared to the other 299 applicants. They may have you earmarked for an appointment.

    But if your application comes in on their 3rd meeting, you are now competing against a much larger pool. Maybe more impressive candidates have entered the fray and now your application is not so impressive anymore.

    Ideally, you want your application considered in every meeting.

    Having said that, nonetheless, the cream still rises to the top no matter when it comes in. But for some with less impressive credentials, getting it in early may be just the little advantage they needed.

    Your goal shouldn't be to rush through your application process just to get considered for the first meeting. Your goal should be to put together the best application possible. If you do that, you'll get fair consideration.

    One candidate in our area got a phone call 2 days before I-Day and asked if he was still interested. He accepted. He had to rapidly withdraw from Auburn and get ready to make the trip to Annapolis. He was a reapplication, by the way.
     
  9. usna1985

    usna1985 Super Moderator Staff Member

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    The above is generally true. USNA can "defer" a decision on whether a candidate is scholastically qualified. Thus, if you get your packet in early and it's not an "obvious" (measured by Board standards) thumbs up or thumbs down, they may pass and wait to see more files before they render a decision. You (and the BGO) won't know whether this happened or not.

    I have seen files completed as late as Jan. 31 result in an appt. However, I do agree that, all things being equal, earlier is better.
     
  10. 1964BGO

    1964BGO Moderator Staff Member

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    For years I have participated in the Buckeye Boys State college fair, and following the event an admissions officer from MIT has spoken to the young men. One of his strongest recommendations is that they get their admissions packet completed as soon as possible as their odds of being accepted is greater. This is exactly what we are trying to get across here... get your packet completed and keep it updated going forward. It is good information, straight from the Admissions Office of USNA! The mechanics of how it works really is not as important as the fact that it does work - in favor of those who just get it done. Best wishes to all who pay heed, and lots of luck to those who decide to reinvent the wheel.
     
  11. tripleplay

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    I went to an admission's information session my DS was invited to last week at the USNA. We were told the first board would meet Sept. 8th. He is reapplying so he won't be considered until Jan. Even if you get your packet completed earlier I would not start stalking the mailman for a while, it is hard on the mental health. DS got TWE on April 1st.
    Tomorrow I will be heading down for the New Cadet parade at VA Tech., his plan B.
    He is excited so that is all that really matters.
     
  12. Ohmanjt

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    How does this play out for college applicants?

    From what you are saying, this means that any college applicants will not be considered until there is already a large pool of applicants. It seems unfair that we are not considered until January whereas applicants coming out of high school can already be appointed in October or November. Does USNA do anything (reserve a certain amount of spots for college applicants or something similar) to ensure that college applicants are on a more level playing field with high school applicants? If not, admissions are currently heavily skewed in the favor of students coming out of high school.
     
  13. usna1985

    usna1985 Super Moderator Staff Member

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    The reason USNA waits to make a decision on college applicants is that it wants to see first semester college grades.

    Understand that MOST offers of appointment go out in Feb. and March, after the MOC slates are due. The number of "true" college applicants is relatively small compared to the overall total. Last year, I had two college students reapply. One was accepted, one was not.

    They don't "save" places per se. However, USNA typically expects to admit college students and factors the timing into the overall equation.
     
  14. babblinbrooke44

    babblinbrooke44 New Member

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    What all has to be submitted to be reviewed by the admissions board? do all the recommendations, medical, and BGO interview have to be received to be considered?
     
  15. nuensis

    nuensis USNA 2016

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    Everything on the Candidate Information System under "Required Application Documents" plus SAT/ACT and BGO interview. Medical, nomination, and CFA do not have be submitted yet for it to be reviewed.
     
  16. Mongo

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    Very very few exceptions to not having the CFA completed prior to going before the board. The only situation I have ever seen or heard about is early extremely exceptional LOAs.
     
  17. Mongo

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    I didn't realize that MIT required MOC nominations and that their selection process was mandated by Federal law. The next time an admissions individual makes a plea for early submittal, ask them why. The sole reason is to somewhat alleviate their heavy workload during the holiday period. To indicate a changed probability of admissions is to either not understand the system or an implication that Admissions is not doing their job properly.

    Bottom line. Don't rush an application such that anything other than your absolute best is submitted.
     
  18. Whistle Pig

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    Let's simplify this little discussion.

    EXPEDITIOUSNESS and QUALITY is not EITHER/OR, but rather BOTH/AND, always deferring to doing one's best @ the expense of doing it a bit later but w/in the deadlines. It's that simple.

    Do your best ASAP. For benefit of the candidate and the CGO.:thumb:
     
  19. vjb16

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    What if you have everything but the BGO interview? I have my CFA, medical, an all required documents turned in, just not the BGO (my BGO was actually changed 3 times, and my latest one took a while to reply to emails -- mine's now scheduled for Sep. 10th).

    I also went to NASS, so they have a interview/evaluation from that. I know they consider that when looking at apps, so could it stand in the place (temporarily) of a BGO interview and qualify me for the first board meeting?
     

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