AFROTC & NROTC Question

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  1. Farm Kid

    Farm Kid Member

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    Just two quick questions:

    1. How many AFROTC scholarships are normally given out annually? Is it a set number or just however many they think is necessary? I ask because I've just been accepted to ERAU in Daytona Beach. Problem is, there is a good chance that without a very good scholarship I won't be able to go because of price of tuition, and I want an idea of what I'm up against in my competition for AFROTC scholarship.

    2. Is it just me, or does the online application for NROTC not work? I have issues as to when the website says it will send me a confirmation email for my login name and password, but I never get anything. Know anybody I can contact to resolve this issue? Please let me know.

    Thanks for the help!
     
  2. kinnem

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    It's however many the budget allows which may be less than necessary, but never more.

    I had issues with the site last year which were different than yours. Turns out they were browser related. Try using a different browser. Maybe FireFox or Safari (assuming you're using IE)
     
  3. Pima

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    kinnem is correct the budget dictates the amount awarded.

    The thing you need to realize they also can change the % for Types. Yrs past it has been 5% for Type1, 20% for 2 and 75% for 7.

    What would occur most likely is if you get a 4 yr 7, you would have to convert to a 3 yr 2 since tuition is 29K. Even than you would only get 18K.

    Type 1 would be the only type that would cover the entire cost for 4 yrs.

    If you troll around here there are several places where they state the stats for AFROTC Types. Off the top of my head I believe it is 1460 for a 1. AFROTC does not superscore, it is the best sitting. I believe type 7 is @1300+, just can't recall.

    Contact ERAU AFROTC det and ask if they offer perks to contracted cadets, such as if you get a 2, they may allow free room and board, which would be a large amount and once you reduce FAFSA loans, you would be at @ 5K out of pocket for that current yr.

    Some schools also offer special scholarships for ROTC cadets. They vary school to school and you can't assume that what one school does every school does.

    Good luck
     
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    Check your spam folder to make sure that your email program's filter is not marking the emails as spam.

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  5. bpanter94

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    Farm Kid,
    Like Pima said, the AFROTC Type 1 scholarships are only about 5% of the total scholarships awarded. The ROO at the university that I am interested in told me that only a little over 900 AFROTC HSSP scholarships were awarded by the boards last year, and should be about the same this year. So if you do the math, that would be approximately 45 Type 1's nationally. Most of the 45 will go to Tech majors. The AFROTC Website states that the average ACT scores for the Type 1 last year was 31.75 with an average uwgpa of 3.88. So yes, these scholarships are extremely competitve. AROTC or NROTC might be a better option for the school your interested in if available. Good luck!
     
  6. Pima

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    NROTC IMPO is more competitive than AFROTC for high demanded colleges, mainly due to the fact that AFROTC awards the scholarship type to the candidate and they can take it anywhere they accept AFROTC. Whereas, NROTC is tied to the unit, and the scholarship is awarded to a specific school/s.

    Remember as an ROTC candidate it is not like an SA candidate. It is not geographically centric. It is awarded from a national perspective.

    AFROTC will not care what college you want to attend if it is on their list. IVY or IS they don't care. They will not care if you are from ND or CA. They will care about your intended major.

    One last thing to place in the equation, SA candidates typically will apply to AFROTC as plan B. The reverse is not true for ROCT candidates applying to any SA.

    AFA usually has about 10K candidates open packets with them.

    Do the math, if 900 are awarded, and 45 are Type 1, you now can see just getting any scholarship is the minority. Getting a Type 1 is rare.

    Apply for it, but at the same time start working on other options regarding how to pay for college. Talk to the FA office. Talk to the det.


    The board is meeting now, your definitive answer may be given within the next 2 weeks. Your answer may also be re-boarded.

    Additionally, talk to ERAU about % that go SFT, and % that are on scholarship
    that go SFT.

    If you get any scholarship, come your soph yr, attending SFT is a make or break. Your scholarship can be revoked if you do not attend/complete SFT. You have stated that you could not afford ERAU without the scholarship. What will you do if you are carrying a 3.1 gpa, but not selected for SFT and lose the scholarship as a jr and sr in college?

    Last yr the national avg was @55% for SFT, and scholarship does not play into the equation for that board. Approx. 1 in 2 were cut.
     
  7. Packer

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    You must plan to succeed. Do not dismiss the opportunity because you are afraid you will fail. If you want to go to ERAU and believe you can succeed there then ifyou get the chance go and give it your best shot.

    In life failures and unexpected changes will occur. When they do you make adjustments and continue on. If you do not get SFT at ERAU and you can not afford to go there without the scholarship you transfer to someplace you can afford. There are lots of places to study aeronautical engineering and get a good education that are more affordable than ERAU.
     
  8. Pima

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    Packer,

    I brought up SFT for a reason, many candidates believe that once they have the AFROTC scholarship in hand they will commission into the AF.

    4 yrs ago when our DS received his scholarship from AFROTC we did not read the fine print...SFT. DS is a non-tech major, and attending a Public college OOS where it costs @40K a yr. Even with merit from the school, and scholarship, we are paying out of pocket for the difference for housing and other items. (He lives off campus due to the school not having enough on campus housing) If he was not selected to go to SFT, it would have been an issue financially for us to make up that tuition. We didn't have 100K in our mutuals to pay for him alone, especially since we had a DD going to college that same yr as his SFT. It would have been a burden. We would have done everything to keep him there, but it would have been hard paying 65K a yr for 2 yrs.

    I get where you are coming from. I believe both of us have the same intentions of saying strive for it, but have a back up plan, and understand you will not be the 1st or the last to change courses mid-stream.

    I am saying to him, that if the only way you can afford to attend ERAU is tied to an AFROTC scholarship, understand that it may be an additional burden emotionally and mentally. He can do it, without a doubt, our kid did.

    I wish that someone would have told us back in 07 SFT was the make or break point when we went through the process. Luckily for us and our DS it worked out, but I would be lieing to all of you if I didn't say we were on pins and needles for that SFT board. Between the scholarship, SFT and rated boards he has endured. The SFT was the hardest. No scholarship, he would have been fine because he had merit from colleges, he just would not have attended his college. Rated board, he was okay because he had his plan B for non-rated. SFT meant an impact in every aspect...attending his college and commissioning. It was the make or break for him serving in the AF in any position as an officer.

    That is my position. I hope for the best for every AFROTC candidate/cadet, but I know that @45% will get the worst. I do not believe by stating this fact they will be too afraid to succeed. I believe by stating it they will succeed, they now know more facts and will be motivated to not think the 2.8 gpa min for AFROTC scholarship at college is a guarantee. If they do not, at least it was not due to not having all the facts when they entered.
     
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  9. Packer

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    Agree!
    Know the facts but don't be afraid to try. You may always regret it if you don't try.

    I am a little more hard nosed on the financial end of things. If you can't afford it go some place more affordable. I don't want to hear all of my friends are here or but I like it here from college age adults. Suck it up you will make more friends and if you give it a chance probably find someplace else that you like and can afford.
     
  10. Pima

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    I agree. That has been my point. If the only way you can afford ERAU is with an AFROTC scholarship, understand in 2 yrs from now when you have best buds at ERAU, but because you were not selected for SFT, you lost the scholarship and now must transfer... life will be painful from a triple emotional hit.

    No SFT
    No AF commissioning
    Not able to pay for college.

    I think this is also true for all college bound parents. If the only way you can afford that school is tied to merit look into the merit regs.

    For our DS 3.0 is required for his college merit scholarship. They allow AFROTC scholarships concurrent. AFROTC is 2.8. had he maintained the min of the AFROTC program he would lose his merit from the school. It would have been an issue. He understood that the hook was on him academically if he wanted to stay there for 4 yrs than he had to maintain a higher gpa than AFROTC, and as a non-tech major he needed to have a higher gpa than tech.
     
  11. dunninla

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    The issue:

    "can I pay for this college without the scholarship"

    applies to all the ROTCs, just differently.

    In Army or Navy ROTC:

    - 4 or 3 Yr AD Scholarship: fail APFT, or become injured/discover a medical condition that makes commissioning impossible -- Out of ROTC, no more $$

    Of course for all three, if a mid/cadet simply decides they don't want to commission at all, and drop the program, again no scholly $$, no monthly $$, and if they are too far into it, must repay past tuition paid by the military.

    I do think though that the attrition rate for Scholarship cadets/mids in AROTC/NROTC is probably under 20%, whereas the 45% for AFROTC is really a scary number.
     
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  12. bpanter94

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    Farm Kid,
    Like you, I have been accepted to a college that I will need some assistance to attend. Although, unlike you I am committed to serving in one branch of the military, the Air Force. Mainly for legacy reasons, my father was prior Air Force and I have a small Air Force Base in my hometown. I am hoping for any type of scholarship from AFROTC (Type 1, 2, or 7) and will feel truly blessed with any scholarship assistance. I am keeping my fingers crossed for the both of us!
     
  13. twin_14

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    He's right, the IE one didnt work for me either, as long as you either Mozilla (which I use) or another one it should work. If it says you don't have the security for it, just follow the steps and it will work from there! Good luck! =]
     

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