After Service?

Discussion in 'Life After the Academy' started by acemaverick, Jun 10, 2011.

  1. acemaverick

    acemaverick Member

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    Are Academy grads highly sought after? After my service, my dream was to become a Walt Disney Imagineer and was wondering if they are looked highly upon. Of course, I want my first priority is to serve as that has also been a dream of mine to become a pilot as well. But I was just wondering how well Academy grads do after they fulfill their service. In terms of jobs, continuing their education and anything else. Thanks!
     
  2. Pima

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    They are highly sought after, but understand the demand usually comes from companies that are connected to your career field. I am not sure Disney has much need for a pilot. If you get UPT, you will owe 10 yrs and that starts after being winged, which takes a yr. In essence, 11 yrs total. That is a long time away from the Imagineer field. Thus, it is probably not likely Disney will be pounding down your door. Whereas, it is likely that Boeing will be due to your experience as a pilot for the military.

    It also will be important to get your Masters in the military to be competitive in the civilian market. There are 2 ways to do this.
    1. Fight for a slot right out of the SA, this is where you defer your UPT commitment, but realize that you will extend your commitment time even longer.
    2. Go at night using the TA program and it will run concurrent with any other commitment.

    Either way, you should just understand that the civilian world is very competitive and work experience is going to be a player in the equation. Additionally, understand by the time you go this route, salary is going to matter, and if you are going into a career where you have no experience the salary level may be too low for you to even contemplate.

    Most military fliers either go into management or become busdrivers in the sky. The longer you stay in the military and gain experience will determine what management level you will enter at. Do not expect to be a SR mgr for a Fortune 500 if you 5 and dive, those spots are usually held for O5+ that have military leadership/command experience.

    The same is true for airlines, they are going to look at ratings and hours. If they have 1 spot and 2 candidates. The person with more hours is going to be viewed more favorably.
     
  3. LineInTheSand

    LineInTheSand USCGA 2006

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    I'll let you know. I had an interview a week ago, two yesterday, and two next week. If any of them offer me a job I'll consider it a success! We shall see.
     
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    Bruno: Any thoughts on how VMI grads fair relative to SA or State U ROTC grads if they enter the civilian market after their initial commitment?
     
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    They do very well- especially if you stay in the mid-atlantic region where there is a strong Alumni connection and strong name recognition. (For example: If you want to be a Civil Engineer in Virgina or Maryland- I believe that VMI is per capita the best program to get hired from whether you went on AD or not. VDOT is practically an alumni chapter all to itself, and similarly there are a ton of very highly successful lawyers in the region who got their undergraduate degree from the I. Frankly it seems like every major Law firm in VA has a VMI alum as one of it's managing partners. That might be a bit of an exaggeration but not that much ) Beyond that- my sense is that you will be primarily marketing your Junior Officer military experience with an Oh BTW- I got my undergraduate degree at VMI.
     
  7. Pima

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    Bruno, no disrespect, BUT, this is exactly what I said:

    I did not say officers.

    I am not trying to start a fight. The OP stated they wanted to fly and afterward become an Imagineer for Disney. I stated, Disney is going to look at your resume, and 10 yrs of flying is not going to match their requirements for that career field.

    Let's also remember this OP wants to fly.
    5 and dive is not an option. Their first chance to dive will be @ 11 yrs. They will not be a newly minted O3 when they leave, they will be an O4, if they don't take the bonus. Additionally an O4 pilot is making 845 bucks a month on top of base pay, before the 125K bonus that they got back yrs ago and will run out at the 14 yr marker, which now holds them to 14 yrs. I am not up to date when the bonus now occurs, but the last I knew it was at 7/8 yr. 50% up front, 50% annually over the next 7 yrs.

    Thus, again, my reply was not from the traditional officer who can leave at 5 for SA, 4 for ROTC, but pilot.

    I agree with you if the OP did not have flying on the table. However, they do have it on the table which is why I go back to my original post.

    If you have 11 yrs in. and want to go corporate, you need to get that Masters. If you are a flier, you probably will turn to the dark side and work for a defense contractor or the govt., if not busdriver in the sky, because you now have a decade in a specialized field that comes with real world experience, something colleges can't teach, and you are highly sought after.

    I know this post seems antagonistic to you, but I just want to make sure it is clear I was responding from the perspective of flying, and that is 10 yrs+ UPT. I am 1000% with you if it is a non-rated officer.
     
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