Air Force secretary announces bold moves to boost women, minorities

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  1. sheriff3

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    http://www.airforcetimes.com/story/...moves-to-boost-women-and-minorities/24365719/

    • Reserve Officer Training Corps Rated Height Screening Initiative. Current pilot candidates must meet the standard of a standing height of 64 to 77 inches, and sitting height of 34 to 40 inches. Waivers are currently only available to Air Force Academy cadets, but James would expand waiver opportunities to ROTC cadets. "We estimate that approximately 900 women will now have the opportunity to more easily compete to be a pilot and to be able to get access to that waiver process over the next five years," James said.
     
  2. Pima

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    I am not understanding this because DSs female friend that commissioned with him via AFROTC got that waiver 2 years ago. She was told that she would have to track non-ejection seats (heavies).
     
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    This is confusing because just like Pima I have heard of this waiver already existing.
     
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    Pima, is it possible she only got a waiver to be a pilot in a non ejection seat airframe? The way I read the caption is in the near future any height challanged pilot will be able to get a waiver for any airframe with or without ejection seats.
     
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    I doubt that is the issue. I don't know of anyone getting a waiver for sitting height because G forbid they have to pull the handle it can result in as broken back at the very least, and death at the worst. There are guys that know this and slouch for their sitting height. It is in part about the canopy blowing away and the seat at the same time....think Goose from Top Gun.

    I will leave it to others to answer, but I am not sure if this is just an AF thing, but it might also be an FAA FC1 issue.

    I also find the numbers funky. @2200 are right now class of 2016. They state that 25% are women. If you do the math than that would be 550 women. On top of that the rated board for 2016 had less than 900 slots, 390 went pilot.
     
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    Class of 2016 has no where near 2200. They only gave out 1590 EA's to that class last year and with attrition rates they are probably down to about 1500.
     
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    Sorry, I was thinking 2015, not 16. Either way still, the idea that they are saying it opens it up for 900 females that otherwise would not be eligible just doesn't add up to me. If 25% in ROTC are female, that means maybe there are 900 female POCS totally. I am sure not all females need a waiver, nor does every female want to fly.

    I get it if they are saying 900 in AFROTC (100-400), but than that is also playing fast and loose with the numbers because they still need to get selected for SFT before they can even apply for the rated board.

    Just out of curiosity, can't recall, but I thought sitting height was done at the FC1 physical after being selected for UPT. Is that right?
     
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    Sitting height is done at your DODMERB as a AS200.
     
  9. Pima

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    My DS was scholarship so he must have had that done back in HS. His 200 physical was just a 15 minute (shots, eyes and ears) for SFT.

    Anyhoo, back on topic, there have been female ROTC cadets in the past that were given waivers for UPT back in 2012.
     

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