alternate nomination?

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  1. mom in fl

    mom in fl Member

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    One of our Senators selected 10 nominees for USAFA, and DS was one of 10
    "alternate nominees" in the case that a nomination becomes available through cancellation or disqualification. Does this ever come into play? Another unknown is where he falls on the alternate list. Curious and hopeful!
     
  2. mom in fl

    mom in fl Member

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    Any idea how many Presidential nominations are given to each SA each year? I know only 100 appointments can be made from the Pres. Nominations, but I wondered how big the pool is.
    Also, if one SA uses your Presidential nomination to give an appointment, can another SA also use your Presidential nom. to offer an appointment?
     
  3. Pima

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    It does occur that candidates will be picked from the alt. because the principal may decide to attend another SA. Hence, the nom is available for alts. Sometimes the alts are placed in rank or assigned competitive where the WCS will determine.

    Presidentials vary SA to SA and yr to yr. I have seen posts where they have said for their SA the prior yr had over 900 while another had close to 600.

    Presidential noms can be used for each SA, so it is possible to be appointed to different SAs using that source. You submit a separate Presidential for each SA. SA's do not talk to each other when they appoint. They are their own entity.

    Think about it if your MOC places you on the slates for 2 different SA's. You would theoretically be eligible for 2 apptmts from that one MOC.
     
  4. flieger83

    flieger83 Super Moderator Moderator

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    A couple of questions.

    When you say DS was one of 10 "alternate nominees" do you mean the letter said:

    a. I am pleased to nominate you as on of my alternates?
    b. At this time I have no nominations for you BUT you are on MY alternate list...

    I ask because they are VERY different.

    If DS received a nomination as an "alternate" that's still a nomination and the process is now ALIVE and KICKING!!! :thumb: If, on the other hand, DS didn't receive a nomination, but simply a letter saying "you're on MY alternate list..." then you're in a "holding pattern" hoping for a nomination.

    If the latter is the case, I would take it to mean that 10 nominee's have been named but your DS is in the "next best 10" and they're going to watch and wait. Each year candidates are "DQ'd" for various reasons. MOST, not all, it varies, MOC's will "take back" a nomination from a candidate who is DQ'd and is not eligible for a waiver. The SA will notify the MOC that this is the case and then the MOC will normally contact the candidate and be very honest with them: "...we can't get you a waiver so we're going to take your nomination and nominate one of your peers, we hope you understand, etc..."

    At least, that's how I've seen it work.

    Steve
    USAFA ALO
    USAFA '83
     
  5. MemberLG

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    My take is it depends on your Senator's nomination policy.

    One my senators have a policy of no double nomination. So he did the similiar thing to as have 20 ranked names for 10 nominations. Initially, first ten will be considered to have nomination. If one of the top 10 kids get a nomination from her Congressman, the senator will pull his nomination from this girl and give the nomination to #11 kid.

    The key is your Senator's nomination policy, your DS' chance for nomination increases if there is a no double nomination policy. I would think kids that are top 10 should be very good so they have good chances of getting nomination from their Congressman. If we are just relying on disqualfication or withdraw, not good.
     
  6. honor66

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    My DS has an alternate nomination from our Congressman. He has an LOA and was told he would not be the principal. But I ask the rep if "alternate" is considered a solid nomination. She told me "yes".

    On his online application it shows the nomination from the Congressman. So if you have an alternate nomination, it should show on his online app.
     
  7. AF6872

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    A Nomination is a Nomination. A LOA is a good step up even without a principal. It is my understanding that if they are not nominated as a principal (few and far between these days) they go into the "pool" and the Service Academy makes the determination? One Nomination and Appointment may be "charged" to each MOC each year (space available) but the other nominations are open for appointment. We never knew if our Mid was "charged" or not. Our Senators ask that if you are appointed by one you withdraw your application for the second Senatorial interview. You still have the possibility of a nominartion from your Congressional Representative.
     

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