Any chance I could get an AFROTC scholarship?

You need to find a way to highlight leadership. Yes, internships count.

PAR is not only stats driven, but also school profile. With such a small graduating class they are going to look at how many go Ivy, go4 yr, 2 yr, tech or nothing. Your rank is going to matter to see how competitive you school is when it comes to looking at your PAR.

Once in ROTC they don't give one fig if you are on scholarship or not on scholarship. They care about your performance as an AFROTC cadet. HS is HS, what you accomplished there is left back there.

You will be disadvantaged being non-tech, but if you carry a 3.2+ you should be fine...understand that as a HS student even with 8 APs, college is not HS. You can't begin to imagine that as a freshman that first semester is a big adjustment and many times grades take the hit. Living away from home, exposed to many activities, and freedom will be a factor. You can swear up and down the telephone pole that it won't be you, but I can tell you, statistically almost every kid has an adjustment issue that 1st semester, it would be abnormal if at sometime you didn't have an adjustment issue.

ROTC is not just about lead labs, it has mandated volunteer hours, plus you will have an ROTC job. Again the reason why they want to see "ECs", because they know ROTC is an EC that will require time. You will also be required to be up at O dark thirty for PT, and as you move up ranks it will be O dark because you will have meetings to attend to prior to PT. DS has to be up at 4:30 to be at the school for a 5:30 briefing, and is done at 7:30...that is before he attends any classes. As an FCC he writes performance reviews for his cadets. That is on top of writing essays for his classes. He is also in AAS and a leader there, so that chews up more time, plus has a GF. Starting to see now why they look for kids that have ECs outside the classroom?

The lack of a job or athletics that require weekly hours outside the classroom hurts. No offense, but you are unproven in the time management arena.

How many hours do you practice at school after school for orchestra, or is orchestra a class you take as an elective? There is a difference. Does you orchestra compete in districts or state? If so place it in your resume.

There is no consensus about SFT for 2014 (2016 class), and anyone who says they can give an opinion is insane. The economy is a driving force, plus, nobody knows how many will DOR as freshman. There are just too many variables to say whether it will be 40, 50 or 60%. However, the rule of thumb is AFROTC has never sent 100% to SFT, or at least not in the last yrs. It is their weed out point. The best you can probably hope for is a 65-70%.

Nobody enters ROTC saying I am not going to give 100%. However, 100% to you may be 75% to them. Visit the college and talk to the det. ROTC units have a personality on its own. You may love the college, but hate the unit. The cadet that is most successful and happiest is the one that matriculated to a college where they enjoyed both ROTC and academics.

I admire your initiative about the GSA, but still you have not stated anything for your resume on what you have done and how your actions have made an impact.

Start fighting for yourself. This is not the time to be meek or bashful. This is the time to take pride and boast/brag about yourself. The military is filled with Alpha personalities.
 
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The only thing I would say is he is incorrect about engineers only taking 1 semester. Scholarship recipients for AFROTC must take 12 credits in foreign language. It is an AFROTC requirement.
Non-tech AF HSSP scholarship recipients must take 12 credits of foreign language. Tech majors (engineering) are not required to take 12 credits.
 
Thanks for the clarification...I assumed and we know what that means....all scholarship recipients must take 12.

Question here...what about non-scholarship, does the AF require foreign language, or can they test out?
 
Almost everyone in each class goes Ivy or another prestigious school. My school does not rank.

Yeah, I understand that. For times, I do every day an hour of guitar, an hour of piano, an hour of orchestra practice/rehearsal (not a school class, it is after school). Then once or twice a week I do 1.5-2 hours of hospital volunteering (3-4 total for the week) and 2 hours a week tutoring. Our orchestra has competed twice and will be going on its second tour next March. Then for the weeks I have musicals, 2-4 hours a week and 6 hours every day for tech week.

I definitely understand the concern there -- thanks for pointing that out. I'll try to highlight that in my resume, because I spend 3 hours a day or more after school on my ECs. If I'm able to start homework by 8pm, it's a good day. I simply have not had time for sports since orchestra and musical rehearsals + my volunteering schedule is during sports rehearsals.

I'll go in-depth as to everything I've done with GSA on my resume. Thanks for the advice.
 
We don't have any titles in the orchestra, but all of the "club leader duties" (the forms, the scheduling, etc) have been given to me.

I was very soft-spoken in freshman year, but through starting and maintaining a GSA in an unsupportive environment, and connecting it with local GSAs, I feel I have learned a lot about leadership.

I had an internship over the summer. I don't know if that counts as job experience.

am the designated orchestra leader, but I've not been given a title for that, and don't feel comfortable giving myself one.

regarding being uncomfortable claiming a title.... I understand, but if you don't toot your own horn no one else will. Whether it counts or not, you should empasize it and claim the "title". Maybe say Orchestra 'leader' instead of Orchestra 'Leader'.

People are usually their own worst enemy/critic when it comes to claiming certain skills. If you felt you're a/the leader, claim it.... and then explain it. I expect you could get your leadership qualities across in an interview with no problems (or not). But if you don't claim it on the application they won't know about it at the boards.

Just my 2 cents worth, That won't even buy you a cup of coffee.
 
Thanks for the clarification...I assumed and we know what that means....all scholarship recipients must take 12.

Question here...what about non-scholarship, does the AF require foreign language, or can they test out?

Aglages is correct.

Non-scholarship cadets dont have to take foreign languages as of now. Neither do technical scholarship cadets. ONLY non-tech scholarship students. Im sure the AF would love to have everyone learn foreign languages, but there simply isnt enough room in the academic schedules of tech majors. If you told the engineering cadets at my Det that they had to take a foreign language, they'd probably laugh and cry at the same time.
 
ONLY non-tech scholarship students.
A little clarification. Only non-tech HSSP scholarship cadets have to take 12 credits of a foreign language. Evidently "back" when the AF was giving in-college scholarships, those non-tech cadets that received those scholarships did not need to fulfill the language requirement.
 
As I stated earlier it is always good to check out the AFA forum because sometimes they have info that impacts AFROTC candidates which is unknown on the ROTC forums.
Romad said:
Question: I was told by a AFROTC Regional Admissions Officer that the top 75 non-selectees for the USAFA this year would be offered a full ride ROTC scholarship due the slot crunch. Is this true?
flieger said:
This was NOT mentioned at all. We did have an ROTC "official" there...he said they'd be as tough as everyone else. They have been "slashed" in scholarship funding (like all the military) and he said they'd "probably" focus more on the "already in school, in the program" scholarships, than they would "directly out of high school." He said they're still getting hurt badly by students given a "full ride, Type 1" scholarship...they come to school, get in the unit...and in 1 year or less, they leave.

So according to an ALO, ROTC is saying that they will be hitting the HSSP this yr and looking at the IS as a way to get the numbers back in line. Good news for cadets in AFROTC, not so good for HS kids.

Romad's AFROTC RAO should send shivers up an AFROTC only candidate's spine if it is true. 75 Type 1's are a lot of scholarships to place aside for the candidates that get a TWE from the AFA when Type 1 makes up only 5% of the scholarships. Granted most of the AFA candidates would probably win a scholarship anyway, but I am not sure all of them would win a Type 1.

Remember they are really intending to hit the AFA hard this yr, harder than even last yr, so many of them will be going to throw their hat in the ring for the scholarships.

The way the AFROTC scholarship works is they can accepted it, and wait until they hear from the AFA before they throw it back. Traditionally most will not find out about the TWE until after the last board meets, so AFROTC will assume they are going AFROTC and the pot of money will not increase in time to offer more scholarships.

Obviously there is no consensus out there, except that there will be less money to spread around.
 
FWIW - it appears that the AF has changed the foreign language requirements for the 2016 non-tech HSSP scholarship cadets. Instead of 12 credits of foreign language it is now (emphasis is mine):
"For all awarded non-technical scholarships cadets will successfully complete either 4 semesters of a single foreign language, or 24 hours of math and physical science before they graduate/commission.
http://afrotc.com/scholarships/high-school/schools-and-majors/
The old policy allowed a student to spread their credits over more than one language. Now it seems as though two years of the same language is required and may amount to substantially more than 12 credits. I would think that after two years of a foreign language that you would be able to graduate with at least a minor in that language.
 
^ I assume the two years are the same as at my DD's semester based school:

Year 1, 4 units Fall, 4 units Spring
Year 2, 3 units Fall, 3 units Spring

14 Units/Hours
 
PIMA said:
He said they're [AFROTC] still getting hurt badly by students given a "full ride, Type 1" scholarship...they come to school, get in the unit...and in 1 year or less, they leave".
which might explain why Army ROTC used the "3 Yr. Advanced Designee Scholarship" to the great degree it did with the Privates this past Winter/Spring.
 
^ I assume the two years are the same as at my DD's semester based school..
14 Units/Hours
My daughter took two 6 week semesters of Spanish (one after the other) over the Summer and each was worth 5 credits. Total 10. Evidently some programs are more difficult than others.
 
That will be interesting for some cadets. I know at our DS's school they really try to keep the language classes small and upper level classes reserved for those majoring/minoring in it. DS was closed out of his so he had to take a different language for his 4th class, was flat out told that he was not minoring or majoring in it, so take a different language.

I agree I bet many will walk out with a foreign language minor or at least core, I believe core requires at his school 15 credits.

For cadets that will also slow their path down and will make it near impossible to graduate early even if they test out because they will need not only those classes in college, but also whatever is required for their intended major and that can be hard to schedule both at an accelerated pace on top of ROTC labs.
 
I did, in fact, receive an AFROTC scholarship to major in Russian.

Just thought I'd post my result for future scholarship candidates who peruse old threads. I remember browsing through them a few months ago and wishing I knew the outcomes!
 
Congrats! Thanks for the update. It's always nice to hear the outcome.
 
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