Army ROTC PFT score

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  1. iwanttogototexasa&m

    iwanttogototexasa&m New Member

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    I believe they havent released how they grade the PFT score but if they have someone please direct me to where I can find it. I just wanted your opinion on my score and what you guys think I might get

    Push ups: 80

    Sit ups: 40

    Mile: 8:25

    I know my mile time is really bad and I would fail the APFT if it stays that bad but for the PFT will my push up score help balance out my bad mile time?
     
  2. AJC

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    Each area has a minimum.
    If you are thinking a good area balances out a bad think again.
     
  3. Jcleppe

    Jcleppe Member

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    I think the OP is asking about the PFT given for the AROTC Scholarship application. Granted there are minimums for each section of the APFT but there are no set minimums for the PFT.

    OP,
    Your run time, while slow, won't kill you on the PFT but it won't be a big plus either. I am assuming you are male since to mention that you would not pass the run section of the APFT. What you need to now is start working hard on your run time so when you start ROTC you're able to pass the APFT or at least be very close on your first try. You won't find any scoring models for the PFT so if these are the scores you submitted then you'll just have to wait and see what happens.
     
  4. AggieWill

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    Howdy! I don't have the exact numbers, but for the PFT the max pushup/situp numbers are in the 50's. The max 1 mile is 6:30. You get 50 points for each item you max, full credit is 150. The scoring scale slides down as you score less than max. there are lots of ways to improve your run (many online resources will teach you) but they ALL involve running a lot....get to it Aggie!
     
  5. iwanttogototexasa&m

    iwanttogototexasa&m New Member

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    I am running out of time to make it on the first board. Do you think I should retake and wait for the second board or submit this and get on the first board?
     
  6. EDelahanty

    EDelahanty Member

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    If you did 80 push-ups in one minute, then you weren't doing them right.
     
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  7. Superior rocks

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    According to Lt. Colonel Robert Kirkland's The Insider's Guide to the Army ROTC Scholarship for High Schoolers, the Army ROTC PFT test is worth 150-points. Based upon your results, you scored 102 points (50+40+12=102).
     
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  8. Padre101

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    Not to criticize, but if you submit an 80 push up score and have only 40 curl ups and a 8:25 run, they will question the technique of your pushups.

    I recommend redoing the test if possible. You still have over 2 weeks.
     
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  9. bfhsj

    bfhsj 4-Year AROTC Scholarship Recipient

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    Could you please share how many points the guide says a 7:00 or 7:30 mile would get? I'm very curious and haven't found numbers anywhere.
     
  10. Superior rocks

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    Again, according to Lt. Colonel Robert Kirkland's The Insider's Guide to the Army ROTC Scholarship for High Schoolers, a 7:00 minute will net you 40-points and a 7:30 mile will net you 30-pints.
     
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  11. AggieWill

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    Both OP and bfhsj,
    There's a subtle hint here, but I'll go ahead and lay it out - you should take a little time, get your hands on the book referenced here (or one similar, there are 4 or 5 on the market), and figure out how you stack up on the Whole Person Score. Another very enlightening resource is the blog run by @clarksonarmy https://goldenknightbattalion.wordpress.com/ there is at least 1 very good post explaining the WPS.

    Use these resources, see how you score, and you can make a rational choice on 1st, 2d or 3d board. While you don't know the WPSs from the competition, you can ID the areas you control and are not maxing, then you can determine what it takes to improve significantly. If you're close to max, or can't really make major improvements, then get the application in asap, you have nothing to lose.
     
  12. Dckc88

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    As usual @AggieWill is making a very good point. Figuring out where you stand is a good call, but if you need help to feel confident in your assessment, there is another step your can take. If you need help deciding when to get your application in, get a hold of a ROO at one of your top schools. Every applicant is different, but rushing for the first board isn't always the right thing. I have shared before, but my daughter was sitting in your shoes a year ago thinking she should apply for the first board. When asking the advice of several different ROO's she was told while she was a competitive candidate, she wasn't a first board candidate. Great advice, and honest. Waiting for the second board meant she would have time to work on her PT score and her ACT, so she took it. In her case she was awarded a scholarship 3rd board meaning it was probably a good thing she waited and got her application as strong as she could before submitting for the second board. There is not a wrong answer, but the ROOs know what type of candidates come to their schools, having input from one or more could help you be more confident in your decision.
     
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  13. bfhsj

    bfhsj 4-Year AROTC Scholarship Recipient

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    Just ordered the book on Amazon :)

    Could someone please clarify why it would be beneficial to wait for the 2nd/3rd boards? Is it only if you need to improve PFA and SAT/ACT scores? I was under the impression that the difference between the scholarship boards is similar to the difference between early action and regular decision for colleges; the earlier you get in your application the better chance you have of getting a scholarship.

    My interview is complete, I am very happy with my SAT and doubt it can go up at all, I am happy with all my essays, my survey portion is complete, I don't think my extracurriculars will change at this point, and I'm about to take my PFA and don't think I would do better (besides maybe 5-10 points) on it in a few months from now. Am I correct in thinking it would likely be best to submit my application for the first board?

    Thank you so much.
     
  14. Padre101

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    And while someone answers these questions, can someone explain when DODMERBs comes into play in the AROTC application process? Thank you.
     
  15. Dckc88

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    The early board gives the least amount of scholarships, typically the number thrown around is about 300. That is out of 2500 plus total. The majority of the scholarships are given the 2nd and 3rd boards. The main reason for waiting would be to get max points on an interview, for example if an ACT/SAT would be under the max points (1100 SAT/24 ACT), then an applicant would want to wait to do their interview until after the scores from the October test came back. If all you are waiting on is your PFT score, the you can always try to take it again right before the deadline and submit it.
     
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  16. Dckc88

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    For ROTC, if a scholarship is awarded, then you will be scheduled for your DODMERB exam.
     
  17. bfhsj

    bfhsj 4-Year AROTC Scholarship Recipient

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    Ah that makes sense, thank you.

    Are all 300 of those scholarships from the first board 4-year?

    Also, is it possible to submit a higher PFT score after being boarded by the first board?
     
  18. Dckc88

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    No, each applicant can only be boarded once, then you stay on the list through the future boards if not awarded a scholarship. You can submit test score or transcripts but I am not sure how much that impacts the score. Hopefully there are those more knowledgable that will chime in.

    Yes the first board tend to be 4 year, 2nd board is still a good chunk of 4 year but a lot of 3 year and 3rd board is primarily 3 year. My daughter received a 3 year last board last year and chose a school that gave 4 year room and board scholarships to all ROTC national scholarship recipients, even 3 year.
     
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  19. AJC

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    The Norwich class of 2020 has 65 AROTC scholarships, 16 of which are 4 year.
    The ROO indicated that the trend will be towards more 3 year.
    The first year (non-scholarship) is considered a "validation" year.
     
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    I lurk here daily. This thread has been extremely enlightening to me.
     
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