Best ROTC Detachments?

I wouldn't just throw all the SMC's in there at the top. If you're measuring success based on ldac performance, they're not rockstars (of the 5 in my platoon, none got E's, Top 5, or Recondo)* . Cadets at State U do just as well.


*I also wouldn't use LDAC as the ultimate measure of success for ROTC.
 
Fly Williams

I selected this school because it was the #1 ROTC unit in the nation.

Proud alum

Isnt' Austin Peay the college that had the basketball player named Fly Williams? I believe they chanted "The Fly is open, let's go Peay!" during the games.
 
Also, Jcleppe, it is interesting hearing your son had such high turnover rates with his PMS. Our BN had about the same turnover rate, but I recall that being fairly uncommon in discussions with other cadets.

PMSs can also be extended for 1-2 years. My PMS got extended for 4 years total.
 
Wheaton College is #1.

But really, it depends on what you're looking for in a school.

I would also add in advice about host schools. Personally, I would argue that doing ROTC at a host school makes everything easier and better. It's easier to get to PT, the DoD civilians know the school well, and often more cadets from the school in the Btn.

Personally, I was looking at some other Christian schools (Biola, Westmont, SPU etc) and found Wheaton was unique in that they were a host institution at a Christian school.


PS-I too had 3 PMSs. The one in the middle got offered Btn Command so he left early.
 
If you're going to do ROTC definitely research. If the school you want to go to has been ranked as a good program, that's great. If not, it's not a huge deal. After you apply, visit the school and meet with the ROTC cadre. Find out info from them personally. Choose the place that is best for you and gives a crap about their ROTC program (some schools could care less about it). And finally, the Duke Battalion at James Madison University is the best.
 
Isnt' Austin Peay the college that had the basketball player named Fly Williams? I believe they chanted "The Fly is open, let's go Peay!" during the games.

I don't remember that, but we would play Morehead State and say things like:

"If you want Morehead, let's go Peay!"

and...

"Show us your Peayness!"

Just college students keeping it classy. Fun times...
 
Of course, the question that is more important than "What is the best ROTC Battalion?" is "What is the best College for me?"

As someone who works in higher education, I laugh at institutions all competing to be at the top of USNR's rankings because all the parents want their children to go to these schools. And here we are debating the same question with regards to ROTC Battalions...

Sigh...

And the worst part of it is that these judgements are made on statistical numbers that may have absolutely nothing to do with the main purpose of a school or battalion - to improve ME (the student/cadet) as a person, scholar, athlete, leader.

Just because a school/battalion graduates more Rhodes Scholars, DMGs, etc. doesn't make it a better school. They may very well start with better prepared freshmen or weed out the less successful from their statistics.

And what the schools/battalions don't provide you is a measure of their inputs and equivalent measures of those same inputs as outputs. An example might be SAT scores in and the same student's GRE's out. And that would be a very narrow measure of value add (as we call it in the business), but one that is very easily measured and compared across institutions.

And even if you compare 1300 SATs coming into 2 different institutions, that measurement may be meaningless to a student coming in with a 1500 or a 1100. Many schools add more value to different segments of their student populations than others. Students who struggle because they are at the bottom of their incoming classes may have less value add during their studies than those who are in the middle. And those at the top, may do extremely well if they get the extra attention or may slack off if the institution doesn't offer that level of personalization.

What this lead me to tell folks is to find out what the experience of students/cadets who are similiar to YOUR student/cadet. Do they thrive at this institution or do they get lost in the shuffle? A cadet who might be considered "low speed" at a top institution may not get the opportunities to learn the s/he may get a a school where s/he is closer to the norm.

We often get caught up in the statistics available when making many of life's most important decisions (where to live, where to work, etc) because it is easy to justify those decisions when talking to our peers. And if that is what brings you satisfaction, then be happy with it. Those of us who have looked (often with little success) for better information to make these decisions have a different life view. We measure our success on whether our student/cadet is happy and finds a space where they can be productive - at least they are working hard. Is it the best? I don't think we have data to prove the answer one way or the other, but I find the observation of activity (getting the most out of one's day) more important than the observation of result (scores/grades) as a measure of success.

Getting off my soap box again...
 
Great post goaliedad. It should run twice a year (Sept/March) in each newspaper across the nation.
 
+1

You bring up a very valid point about having a battalion full of studs. Even the Olympic Dream Team had bench players. Someone has to be bottom third, even at stud battalions.
 
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