CFA- Interesting experience

Discussion in 'Air Force Academy - USAFA' started by academania, Sep 23, 2009.

  1. academania

    academania USAFA Cadet

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    Hey everyone,

    So I took my CFA today and just submitted my results by phone to my assigned admissions officer. When I got done with the test I was pretty dissappointed because although I had maxed a few categories, I was below average for two. In fact my mile run was more than a minute over the average. So I called my admissions officer to get an opinion and advice on retesting. He input my scores right there just to get an idea and told me that I got a decent score because my maxes in other categories pulled me up. He advised me to submit them and I did. So it seems that if you are lacking in one category, if you can max in a few others, it shouldn't be that big of a deal. Of course, you should ALWAYS strive to meet or exceed the averages, but I think if anything it's a sign that you shouldn't stress too much about the CFA (like I was :shake:) Just my two cents... Hope this helps. Good luck to all other candidates this year!
     
  2. riroka

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    what were your scores? I did mine today and did well in 2 areas and not so well in 2 areas. I am considering retesting.
     
  3. academania

    academania USAFA Cadet

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    My scores were:

    BBall Throw: 47 (Ouch...)
    Pull-Ups: 11
    Shuttle Run: 7.9
    Sit Ups: 95
    Push Ups: 62
    One Mile Run: 7:57 (Ouch again...)

    According to the admissions councilor this balanced out to an alright score. Riroka, I would check out the averages to see how you compare and then give your admissions councilor a call. They see a lot of different CFA's so I'm sure they can give you an idea of whether scores are ready to be submitted or if they really need a retake. Calling admissions really helped for me. Of course, you can also take from the abundance of VERY knowledgeable people on this forum. Good luck!
     
  4. flyersboy114

    flyersboy114 USAFA Cadet

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    they might make you retake it because your run time was high. they made me retake mine and I brought it down a minute after I retook it. Just warning you. Also the basketball score is really low so they might make you retake it because of that
     
  5. academania

    academania USAFA Cadet

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    I sure hope they don't have me retake it... I don't think the admissions officer would have told me to submit it if he didn't think it was good enough. I know that the mile and the basketball scores are low. I've seen what the averages are and I myself thought it would be a retake for sure. But I'm going to trust that the fact the admissions officer told me to submit it is a sign that I hopefully won't have to retake it.
     
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    best

     
  7. Pima

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    Viktory...fyi you did not link correctly, so I am not sure what you meant to link.

    The admissions director does not know what points you will receive for the WCS. Many times they ask for it again because of the score, but the packet is very strong. As it has been said before the AFA is unique regarding the CFA since the altitude is a factor. I think if you are in other sports, their fear would be quelled, if not that is when they get nervous.

    Next, remember although that is your regional, they also have thousands of other candidates. The reason your ALO exists is to broach them with questions like this. Do not jump over their cranium. I can understand calling them if you were asked to re-take it, or if you did not belong to these boards where you can see what others are submitting and you can see how you stack.

    I am not trying to read into this or create doubts for you, but let me give you a scenario...you call the RD and ask them here's my scores...you are the 7th kid that day, while they are busy trying to get their "real job" (they are there for you, but again go back to jumping over the ALO). The RD could just state something like this...

    "I suggest that if that is your best scores you can get you should submit them".

    You hear only ..."should submit them", without ever hearing the key word "if"

    The RD's real job is to put completed packets together from their assigned region and letter, and to follow them throw from submission to board to apptment, including noms and Dodmerb waivers...their job is not to make a decision on the score of the CFA and how it will effect your WCS, that is the boards.

    I know that sounds incredibly harsh, and that is why I say don't submit until you have maxed to your ability.

    I do happen to agree that your BBall throw is incredibly low, especially since the max is 100. Your run is also going to give you a low score since you are close to 8 minutes. I can be 100% wrong, but I thought the AF requirement is a 7:30 min mile max. You have a good pull up, sit up and shuttle score, with a max in sit ups, hopefully they will overcome the other lower scores.

    Now that I have written a novella, throw it in the circular filing cabinet because I also do not sit on the board and do not know your packet, thus I can be completely off the mark.
     
  8. academania

    academania USAFA Cadet

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    Well now it feels like I have been mislead. Because I made it clear that I didn't want those scores to hurt me and that I knew that the mile and the basketball throw were particularly low. He didn't say "I suggest that if that is your best scores you can get you should submit them." He actually said, "Give me those scores and I will use them because I think they are decent." Now, why would he knowingly take scores that I had serious doubts about? Perhaps I did make the wrong decision by calling admissions. If so, there's nothing I can do about it now and if they're bad scores than maybe I'm not getting in. Now it just makes me feel doubtful and confused, because I thought that the admissions officer wouldn't take the scores unless they were good enough... Not feeling to happy right now.
     
  9. Pima

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    Look don't doubt yourself. you could have such an amazing packet that the CFA is not an issue. They will not make the decision for re-taking, the board will. All the RD does is process, they are not the be all end all, they are not the board nor ALOs, typically, however they have been there for quite a while, so they know the historical scores. You had some great scores that offset the weak ones. Don't go down the road that it is over, it isn't, at least not until I-day 2010. You need to trust him.

    FYI, from now on when in doubt call or email your ALO. I say this because he has direct knowledge of the scores from your area and he can rack and stack you better. For example, RD's have an area, plus letters (i.e. A-M), they have no clue about your entire area, where your ALO does, since they have your district.
     
  10. flyersboy114

    flyersboy114 USAFA Cadet

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    hey dude look dont sweat it. If its not good enough they will let you retake it. If they do then that is awesome because then you have the opportunity to boost your packet score. I had to retake it, and look where I am now. I improved in every event. Trust me if its low they will let you retake it. If not then you are probably fine.
     
  11. academania

    academania USAFA Cadet

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    Thanks guys, my nerves are definitely more calm now. All I can do now is sit back and hope for the best. I appreciate everyone's advice; it really helps.
     
  12. flyersboy114

    flyersboy114 USAFA Cadet

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    np bro, now just sit back and enjoy the ride
     

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