Cfa rules

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  1. Theyellowfellow

    Theyellowfellow Member

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    Am I allowed to listen to music on an MP3 and have a friend pace me for the mile during the Cfa?
     
  2. FalconsRock

    FalconsRock Parent

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    No on the friend pacing you. Someone can yell encouragement, but they cannot run with you. I am not sure about the music.

    You cannot do anything that will give you an unfair advantage, like wearing spikes on your shoes or a pacing partner.

    YellowFellow, this is your second test right? Hopefully you have been working hard to improve your scores. You have to do this on your own and I have faith in you. Your mindset can help or hurt, so be determined and push on. You got this!
     
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  3. frenzymando

    frenzymando Banned

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    The CFA instructions state that:

    "The test administrator will:

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    Not permit pacing by another person"

    So if your friend is a person(a human being), s/he cannot pace you. There is no rule regarding pacing by a non-human being, but my guess(and I'm not qualified to make this guess so if you want an official ruling on this I can't give you one) is that they don't want anything pacing you even though they only mention pacing by another person.

    The instructions also state:
    "Any item that gives a candidate an unfair


    advantage is not permitted during the CFA."



    http://www.usma.edu/admissions/shared documents/cfa_instructions.pdf
     
  4. frenzymando

    frenzymando Banned

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    Also, here's a tip. On the shuttle run only the best of your 2 times is recorded. You should know approximately how fast you can run the shuttle run. If the fastest you have ever run it is an 8.5, and you get an 8.5 on your first try on the CFA, on the 2nd run you don't have to go all out. You could "run" it in 20 seconds and only the 8.5 would be written on the sheet. When I took mine I got .1 off of my best time ever on the first trial, and the 2nd one I slipped trying to turn and got about 4 seconds slower, but it didn't matter since only the first trial was recorded.
     
  5. FalconsRock

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    Frenzy, I think if one were to run the CFA mile with their dog pulling them along by the leash would not be acceptable either.

    YellowFellow, just get it done and do your best by yourself like every other candidate that takes the test.
     
  6. frenzymando

    frenzymando Banned

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    Having a dog pulling him along by a leash would undoubtedly be cheating. The rules specifically state:

    "Monitor the candidate to make sure he/she does not:

    Receive physical help during the event (pushed,


    pulled, picked up, or carried)."

    However, the rules do not mention pacing by a non-human being, only pacing by a person is mentioned. It also states:

    "Any item that gives a candidate an unfair


    advantage is not permitted during the CFA."

    However, animals are not items. So really there is absolutely no mention of pacing by (a) animal(s). Based on the information available, I don't think that either of us can say with any certainty that it is against the rules or not. That being said, I agree with you in that I don't think you are supposed to have an animal pace you, but I lack the knowledge to definitively say that is true.

    There are quite a few parts of the CFA instructions that seem oddly worded to me. My favorite part is in the mile run instructions where it says:
    "Monitor the candidate to make sure he/she does not:
    Leave the designated running course for any reason."
    I can't even imagine someone deciding to leave the CFA during the middle of the mile run :rolleyes: I don't see how doing so would be advantageous at all. If you left and came back your time would be absolutely dismal.
     
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  7. Stealth_81

    Stealth_81 Super Moderator Moderator Founding Member

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    I'm pretty sure that is included so that the runner doesn't leave the course to the inside of the track, thus shortening their distance. Leaving the course means deviating from the intended path of the run.

    Stealth_81
     
  8. FalconsRock

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    :p
    Frenzy, my comment was a feeble attempt at satire, not intended to be taken seriously. :p But, I am positive that running/pacing yourself with a dog (off leash) is not allowed, especially if the dog or other animal is a well conditioned runner. Perhaps we could set up one of those mechanical rabbits that the greyhounds chase with the goal of catching it at the end of the mile. It may improve your time, however, it might give the tester an unfair advantage.:)
     
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    Motivation...
     
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    Gokings, I just about fell out of my chair. That is too funny.:yllol:
     
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    AROTC-dad Just a dad

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    Thanks, Falcon....I just can't quite tell if the runner in the photo is wearing headphones.....;)
     
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  12. civic29

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    I suggest no headphones, just focus on the run and use a watch to keep pace.
     
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