CFA

Sorry to bring this post up again but I just was wondering if I could do the shuttle run barefoot? I just ran it barefoot in the grass and figured out I'm a lot quicker w/o shoes. It might have something to do with my turn because I am flat footed so w/o my shoes I have more contact with the ground and slip a lot less. I know I can't use cleats, but of barefoot is an option for the Shuttle run then I definitely want to do it that way. In the packet it says that any item that gives the candidate an unfair advantage isn't permitted but it never says anything about not using shoes.
Jest, I think you had better plan on keeping your shoes on and just suck it up and take the test. 5 tenths or 6 tenths of a second on your shuttle run is not going to break you unless you are incredibly slow, and in that case, you need to work harder. The CFA is a timed test and there is only so much time between events. Are you really going to remove your shoes, then put them back on for a 7 to 8 second run? Enough of the whining, just take the test and be done! :muscles2:
5 or 6 tenths is absolutely huge.... That's like saying 20 or 25 sit ups will not break you. Vince Wilfork runs the 40 yard dash in 5.08 seconds and Dez Bryant runs it in 4.53(.55 faster). Here is the difference between a 5.08 and 5 tenths faster.



OP, you said that you are doing the CFA in a gym. Does the gym have a basketball court? You could put hair spray on the soles of basketball shoes and do the shuttle run in there. Hair spray gives basketball shoes really good traction on basketball courts.
 
Falcon you are probably right. The only reason I asked was because no shoes changed a 9.3 (below average) shuttle to an 8.9(which is the average). I just don't want to be below average in anything because I know this process is too competitive to slack off on any portion. I have been working plenty, believe me. Just the other day I managed to throw over 80ft on bball throw for the first time compared to my 75 I threw at AFASS and I've spent the last few days studying for the act and sat (college semester finally finished so I only get three weeks to focus on them). But yeah I wasn't planning on swapping shoes on and off that would be pointless. I could do bball throw, pullups, shuttle, pushup, and sit-ups w/o shoes then I would put them on for the mile. Or not cuz a 5:20 mile isn't too difficult even if I am barefoot lol
 
Frenzy yeah most of my CFA will be in a gym with a bball court. And I never knew hairspray could help traction I'll definitely try that. U think it works on Nike free runs as well as it does on bball shoes because I don't own bball shoes (just running shoes like UA Speedform Apollo and I am definitely not doing a shuttle in those)
 
Hair spray? Oh please.

Why don't we just attach a large stick to your arm and stick the basketball in it so you get maximum distance?

Just do the shuttle run, in shoes or not (if you want to waste your 60 seconds between sections).

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So, you possible leaders of the US Air Force want to hair spray your shoes. Now, let's just extrapolate that out a bit, shall we? You are, say, a maintenance officer, and want your avionics to work well, but instead of doing the needed repairs, you cover a crack in the wire in gum - "This works great!" Is this what we want of our officers? One who can't get the job done unless s/he is barefooted, or hair-sprayed, in or not in cleats? Come on, kids. Pass the CFA on your own skill and merit, not by tweaking. Next thing you know, you'll be winning football games by deflating the ball.

Please, while I understand the desire to max out your CFA and to use all legal options to do so, your best option is really to practice EVERY SINGLE DAY, and to do your absolute best, and forget the shoe-changing, hair spraying, etc.
 
Frenzy yeah most of my CFA will be in a gym with a bball court. And I never knew hairspray could help traction I'll definitely try that. U think it works on Nike free runs as well as it does on bball shoes because I don't own bball shoes (just running shoes like UA Speedform Apollo and I am definitely not doing a shuttle in those)
I'm not sure if it would work on non-basketball shoes, but I'm guessing it would. The hairspray makes it sticky. Put some on the soles of the shoes and then wait for it to dry and you will get better traction on hardwood floor. You may need to check with someone to make sure adding traction to your shoes isn't against the rules. If you get a brand new pair of basketball shoes, they will have great traction without the hairspray.

So, you possible leaders of the US Air Force want to hair spray your shoes.
I would like possible leaders of the US Air Force to do things in the most effective and efficient manner, yes. I would also like possible leaders of the US Air Force to be open-minded, innovative people.
? You are, say, a maintenance officer, and want your avionics to work well, but instead of doing the needed repairs, you cover a crack in the wire in gum - "This works great!"
Your example is irrelevant to the situation at hand. A better example would be a maintenance officer wants his avionics to work well and he figures out he can repair them 10% faster by eating carrots, so he eats carrots. By using the carrots the maintenance officer is improving efficiency and by using hair spray the OP is improving efficiency. In your example the maintenance officer is doing something that could have serious repercussions. There are no repercussions to the OP putting hair spray on his shoes provided that he makes sure it is permitted.
Is this what we want of our officers? One who can't get the job done unless s/he is barefooted, or hair-sprayed, in or not in cleats? Come on, kids. Pass the CFA on your own skill and merit, not by tweaking.
Alright, I guess I should ask my football coach if we can play the first game of the season with tennis shoes instead of cleats so that we can win on our "own skill and merit, not by tweaking."

If you have ever watched a professional basketball game, when a player is about to check into the game he or she steps on this pad with their shoes. This is a sticky pad. It makes their shoes sticky so they don't slide all over the court. Hair spray does the exact same thing except it's a lot cheaper to get than one of the sticky pads. Spit and sweat does the same thing too(if you watch lower level basketball a lot of players will lick their hands and white them on the soles of their shoes or put sweat on the bottom on their shoes).

The OP is unfortunate in that he doesn't have a track to run the shuttle run on. Ideally, the shuttle run would be ran on a track. One gets great traction on tracks. I am fortunate enough to have a track to run the shuttle run on. Should I offer to run it on asphalt instead so that I can "Pass the CFA on your own skill and merit, not by tweaking"?

Please, while I understand the desire to max out your CFA and to use all legal options to do so, your best option is really to practice EVERY SINGLE DAY, and to do your absolute best, and forget the shoe-changing, hair spraying, etc.
That simply isn't true. The OP's best option is to practice every single day AND use all legal options that can increase his score.
 
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There is no "ideally" here. Most applicants I've done the cfa for have done it in a gym. They are already there for the basketball, pull-ups, sit-ups, etc. the only thing we went to the track for was the run.

Yes, a boxer or wrestler can take ex lax and puke their guts out prior to weigh in to make weight. The point is, the cfa is designed to test the fitness of the individual. Not their shoes or their ability to think outside the box.

As for the cfa, it's generally a pass or fail event. Will 5/10th of a second improve their overall cfa score? The tester can determine if the individual had a problem sliding and fell down. And that extra 5/10th of a second isn't going to make up for anything if they can't throw a basketball more than 50 feet from a kneeling position or can't do the minimum number of sit-ups, pull-ups, or push-ups. For more than 50 years, and more than 50,000 cadets, individuals have been able to meet the standards for acceptance into the Air Force academy. And they haven't had to use hair spray, stick-um, gymnastic high bar grips, or anything else to do their tests. Matter of fact, most applicants have a good sports background and need very little practice doing the cfa.
 
I've always found the best litmus test for most things is to ask yourself "Would I do this if they were watching"? So, would you spray hair spray on your shoes if those on the board deciding if you would get into the Academy were watching? I know if it were me the answer would be no.

Just because something isn't "technically" illegal, doesn't make them morally correct. I'm pretty sure that 99.9 percent of those who took the CFA test never used hair spray nor any other "Stickums" to try to gain a little advantage on the shuttle run. My DS (Along with many other candidates) ran his in the gym with his gym shoes and did just fine. What would be next, helium underwear to help with the pull ups? :bounce1:

The difference between an average shuttle run as opposed to one slightly below average is not going to affect the overall WCS very much. It is 1/5th of the CFA and I think the CFA is 10 percent of the WCS. I agree with CC and Fencersmother. Forget the hair spray. Practice, practice and practice some more and then go give it your best effort.
 
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Fencer I see what you are saying but imagine my situation: I can only practice out in the country where no gym floor, no rubber (or even asphalt) track is available, and the only surface to practice on is grass. Now I can say that practicing the shuttle is frustrating when you slip and slide on every pivot and can only manage a 9.3 with normal running shoes. This number has not improved any for the past two weeks that I have practiced ceremoniously (i even started using speed drills and extra resistance training to increase top end speed). I've only had the chance to do a legit shuttle once at the academy on their rubber track and there was no chance to redo because the amount of people who still had to test. When I read your post I felt as if I were being accused of cheating. I appreciate the criticism, but it was a bit unnecessary especially since using hairspray was just a suggestion. Also, could using hairspray really be cheating? Why would a track runner use running spikes? Or a football player use cleats? They are just trying to maximize performance. In the end, the hairspray doesn't improve my footwork or increase my stride rate, all it does is keep me from slipping. It's not like I'm doping or something (shoutout to those Kenyan marathoners) and I'm pretty sure the shuttle run can't really measure the candidates skill if they slip and bust their tail on every turn and lose a few tenths a of a second. I imagine that my situation will change once I start practicing on a real gym floor when school starts and I can run through a few practice CFAs with my proctor but as for now I'm just trying to figure out what will help my trash shuttle run.

I probably will stick with doing the shuttle barefoot because running shoes aren't made for quick turns anyways. I'd have better contact with the ground with my sweaty flat feet in comparison to running shoes lol
 
Fencer I see what you are saying but imagine my situation: I can only practice out in the country where no gym floor, no rubber (or even asphalt) track is available, and the only surface to practice on is grass. Now I can say that practicing the shuttle is frustrating when you slip and slide on every pivot and can only manage a 9.3 with normal running shoes. This number has not improved any for the past two weeks that I have practiced ceremoniously (i even started using speed drills and extra resistance training to increase top end speed). I've only had the chance to do a legit shuttle once at the academy on their rubber track and there was no chance to redo because the amount of people who still had to test. When I read your post I felt as if I were being accused of cheating. I appreciate the criticism, but it was a bit unnecessary especially since using hairspray was just a suggestion. Also, could using hairspray really be cheating? Why would a track runner use running spikes? Or a football player use cleats? They are just trying to maximize performance. In the end, the hairspray doesn't improve my footwork or increase my stride rate, all it does is keep me from slipping. It's not like I'm doping or something (shoutout to those Kenyan marathoners) and I'm pretty sure the shuttle run can't really measure the candidates skill if they slip and bust their tail on every turn and lose a few tenths a of a second. I imagine that my situation will change once I start practicing on a real gym floor when school starts and I can run through a few practice CFAs with my proctor but as for now I'm just trying to figure out what will help my trash shuttle run.

I probably will stick with doing the shuttle barefoot because running shoes aren't made for quick turns anyways. I'd have better contact with the ground with my sweaty flat feet in comparison to running shoes lol
You should ask someone if putting the hairspray on the shoes to add traction is cheating. It could be. If they say it is, get a new pair of basketball shoes and don't wear them outside until the day of the CFA. They will have as good, if not better, traction than worn out running shoes with hair spray. Spit and sweat work just as well as hairspray too, they just don't last as long. But that wouldn't be an issue because the shuttle run is very short. Cleaning your shoes could also give them better traction. I had a pair of shoes with horrible traction and I cleaned the soles off and the traction got much better. I think it was because dust and dirt was covering the soles of the shoes.
 
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