Chances for AFROTC scholarship

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  1. euroforce

    euroforce New Member

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    I am about to go to my senior year and have also decided to join the AFROTC in college. I am also considering to apply for a type-7 scholarship. However, I don't know if it is worth a shot because I don't even qualify for any of the 3 types. Below is my information:

    Unweighted GPA: 3.46 (downwards trend sadly)
    ACT: 27
    Honors: Algebra 2 Honors, Geometry Honors
    AP classes: AP Biology and AP Physics. Will be taking AP Government, AP, Literature, AP German, and AP Calculus AB next year.
    Extracurricular: Varsity Swim and Dive, JV Water Polo, active NHS member, and officer in the political club.

    I am currently looking towards to attending the University of Washington (Seattle).
    What I am most worried about is my GPA and ACT score. I will be retaking the ACT the coming September and studying my butt off to get at least a 30 this time. However, my GPA is something I cannot change and it seems that the minimum for a type-7 (the lowest of the 3) is a 3.77. My GPA used to be a 3.7 in freshmen year but it has been going down ever since. This makes me regret taking honors and APs but nothing can change that now.

    Should I still go for a type-7 or not even bother because I under qualify? I really need help deciding this. If I don't make it then plan B is to go enlisted.
     
  2. WorkforJesus

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    My sister won a type-7 scholarship for 2015. She had similar ACT scores but a better GPA. I would try your best to get your GPA up but your extracurriculars look good! Just make sure you kill the interview when you get to it! Keep up the hard work!
     
  3. Pima

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    2 things regarding the scholarship:

    1. You have 0 chance if you do not try. The worst thing that happens is they say, thank you but at this time we are unable....
    2. Your CGPA and course rigor/curriculum will not be taken into account for your Senior year. They only review through your junior year. (Sorry WorkforJesus, but he can't do squat regarding his cgpa right now regarding the scholarship). The only thing that they will allow to be updated is your SAT/ACT scores.
    ~ Remember they use only the best sitting. They do not superscore.
    ~~ They also will not take into account any ECs for your senior year.. It really is only the ACT/SAT that they will allow to change.
    ~~~ This is one of the big differences between A/NROTC and AFROTC. They allow senior year everything. They also superscore.

    As far as enlisting, what is the reason? Is it because financially you cannot afford college without the AFROTC scholarship? Is your intention to do the GI Bill eventually?

    Have you thought about going to your local CC for 2 years and than transferring to the 4 yr? In our state if you attend the CC for 2 years, maintain a 3.2 you have automatic acceptance to any IS college. Many of the CC students go xtown to the host unit, thus they are in AFROTC from the get go.
    ~ You can than reapply as a freshman for an ICSP and if selected transfer the following year as a sophomore.

    Additionally if you need the scholarship to attend, the scholarship it is what you call 2+2. It is guaranteed for only 2 years, if not selected for SFT they will probably disenroll you.

    If your plan B is still enlisting, as soon as possible look into tuition assistance (TA)

    Finally, if you can get a 30 you will be sitting better, However, remember that 80-85% of all scholarships go to tech majors (STEM), so your major is going to be a huge factor in this equation. Do not try to game it by saying I am going civil engineering and if you decide next fall you want to become a govt major, expect them to say NO you can't change the major and keep the scholarship.
    ~ I would also look into if they are offering a specialty career scholarship. This is a risk. For example, a couple of years ago they said if you are willing to promise to go CSO or ABM, you could also get a scholarship. However, that is a huge risk because you have locked yourself into a career field very early on.
     
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  4. euroforce

    euroforce New Member

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    Pima-
    Regarding the major, that is no problem for me. I plan to major in Aerospace Engineering and will not change that.
    The reason why plan B is enlisting is a bit off topic but I essentially got disowned by my parents and they're kicking me out after I graduate. They're really angry about my GPA. Therefore, I can't go to a CC since I won't have any financial support whatsoever and no home to return. But the GI Bill does sound appealing.
    Anyways, thanks for letting me know about their selection method. It did demoralize me somewhat when you revealed how they don't regard my senior year but I'd rather know the truth then live a lie.
     
  5. Pima

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    Okay...time to go to your GC at HS, or the CC financial aid officer (community college) if the folks are forcing you into emancipation, than you might also be eligible things like the Pell Grant, Subsidized and unsubsibidized Stafford Loans.

    It is now up to you to do the true leg work. Folks say you are on your own at 18. You are guaranteed even at the CC level 5500 a year in student loans. 6500 sophomore. 7500 junior and senior year.
    ~ Mom and Dad kick you out July. You have a PT job, and move in 3 other people (1 bdrm). Your salary now makes you eligible for Pell Grant (no payback).
    ~~ Again FAFSA needs to be done January 1st.
    ~~~ Colleges will also give FA. You might have to do work study, but they will deduct the bill for that.
    ~ Live near a military base? apply for their scholarships. typically they range between 500-1000. It will at least cover some books.

    It is up to you now.

    Do I feel you are lock solid for an AFROTC scholarship? NO. Do I ever say to any poster they are lock solid? No.

    I will say to you I have fears. Your ACT.
    27 composite is a composite.
    ~ If you have a 30 M, and 24 E, that E is going to kill you.
    ~~ USAFA states that is the min. for E.
    ~ 27 across the board is different.

    I get you want U Washington.

    1. Have you talked to their Swim/Dive coach to see if they can recruit you?
    2. What is your safety?
    ~ UMiami was our DS's safety. (We lived in NC). They gave him 100,000 merit.
    3. Contact the closest AFROTC unit that you have on your slate. Talk to them for guidance.
    ~~ Recruiters want you to enlist. ROTC units want you to join them. Their point of views can be 180 degrees.

    Do you have what posters call "DIVERSITY"?
    ~ Diversity is not only race or sex, but it can also be socio-economic.


    This path, be it ROTC scholarship or college admission is not black or white. It is every shade of grey.

    Use Naviance (google it). Talk to the GC. Talk to the recruiters. Talk to admissions of the easiest safety with AFROTC.
    ~ 10 will get you 20 you probably can do college on your own time, without the folks.

    The question is how badly do you want to be an AF officer?
    ~ Is it UW or enlistment? Or are you willing to go OOS with no cost?
    ~ Are you willing to spend hours on the net researching every safety college?
     
  6. Pima

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    This is meant with the utmost kindness, but how much research have you done regarding course curriculum for your top college choices as an Aerospace Engineer?
     
  7. euroforce

    euroforce New Member

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    For 4 years.
     
  8. euroforce

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    The question is how badly do you want to be an AF officer?
    ~ Is it UW or enlistment? Or are you willing to go OOS with no cost?
    ~ Are you willing to spend hours on the net researching every safety college?[/QUOTE]

    If I didn't want to be an Air Force officer, then I wouldn't even consider plan B.
     
  9. Pima

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    Plan B enlistment is an insanely hard path.

    You have researched this for 4 years?

    If so I am going to be Janie Raincloud right now.
    Anyone that knows anything about the process knows they look at the rigor. You would have done just as much harm by taking standards if the the school offered honors and AP from a school profile and ranking perspective.

    Taking honors and APs helped you more than it hurt.
     
  10. euroforce

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    Yes and competitive colleges prefer you to have As in Honors and APs, not the 'B in AP = A in regular'. I have spoke with my school councilor and she confirmed it.
     
  11. Akrogan

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    I'll be honest...I got an AFROTC scholarship for engineering and realized how difficult it is and decided to leave that field/realized I had no passion for it.

    However, the AF is fantastic in that you can easily switch between any different tech major. I switched to something called digital media. Basically like a lower level CS degree combined with Internet/technology design. The degree generally only requires college algebra. It's something to look into if you want a technical curriculum with less math. However there IS a lot of programming (all my classes are based around it), so don't do this if you don't like that either.
     

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