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cbv15

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I have recieved congressional nomination for ohio, I am almost done with my application to USNA but was just wondering how I am looking.
I have a
  1. 4.2 gpa
  2. 5 on AP bio
  3. 5 on AP Gov
  4. currently in 4 AP classes
  5. 11 time varsity athlete
  6. 2 time xc captain
  7. 1 time swim team captain
  8. 2 time xc regional qualifier
  9. 1 time swim district qualifier
  10. 34 ACT
  11. selected for boys state(cancelled due to covid)
  12. National honor society member
  13. various other club memberships
  14. youth group leader
Also any advice on my admissions essay? Thanks.
 
You look great to me.

Chancing involves other variables we don’t know. Competition for instance.
 
cbv15 said:
I have recieved congressional nomination for ohio, I am almost done with my application to USNA but was just wondering how I am looking.
I have a
  1. 4.2 gpa
  2. 5 on AP bio
  3. 5 on AP Gov
  4. currently in 4 AP classes
  5. 11 time varsity athlete
  6. 2 time xc captain
  7. 1 time swim team captain
  8. 2 time xc regional qualifier
  9. 1 time swim district qualifier
  10. 34 ACT
  11. selected for boys state(cancelled due to covid)
  12. National honor society member
  13. various other club memberships
  14. youth group leader
Also any advice on my admissions essay? Thanks.
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Your stats are similar to my son's and he just got a LOA yesterday. Get that app in asap!!
 
You look very strong. Regarding essays: tell a story about yourself, you experiences, hardships (if any), lessons learned. Don't cover a a-lot that is already in the application (SATs, GPA etc.)-you have already told the that. Remember many applicants have very similar qualifications to yours...so perhaps talk about what makes you unique and a good fit for the Academy/service. Work on it a lot. Get 3 or 4 good reviewers to offer advise. Good luck!
 
rickdunnjr said:
You look very strong. Regarding essays: tell a story about yourself, you experiences, hardships (if any), lessons learned. Don't cover a a-lot that is already in the application (SATs, GPA etc.)-you have already told the that. Remember many applicants have very similar qualifications to yours...so perhaps talk about what makes you unique and a good fit for the Academy/service. Work on it a lot. Get 3 or 4 good reviewers to offer advise. Good luck!
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would it be okay if you could look over the broad jist of it? I am not the most comfortable having someone I know look at it haha
 
With a strong resume like you have, surely there are some people you can get to review your essay. Persistence is a a good quality to have.
 
cbv15 said:
would it be okay if you could look over the broad jist of it? I am not the most comfortable having someone I know look at it haha
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Application essays are, by definition, rather personal and specific. Which is why you should have yours reviewed by someone who knows you well, whether a relative or friend or teacher or counselor. They know you well enough to have a BS meter that will go off when something doesn’t sound right, genuine, authentic. A stranger on SAF can only give you general, generic feedback. And general, generic essays usually don’t get the job done for college admissions.
 
usna1985 said:
You look great. A lot of folks that appear similar on paper are appointed. A lot with similar credentials are turned down. Read the sticky on “what are my chances” for more info.
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Truer words.

DS has similar stats, but I keep warning him to keep doing what he can to keep increasing his chances that is in his control and to keep plugging away with Plan B (which luckily he is happy with, but really wants USNA). He is officially in what I refer to as the "black box", where from hereon is out of his control, other than staying fit and out of trouble, and see if his profile meets the needs of USNA and is more attractive than others in our District, State, and other nomination sources to USNA.

Keep up the great work and keep at it. Stats look great and good luck!!
 
Gauging your acceptance chances on 14 data points is a pretty futile effort. We could make a spreadsheet of every candidate with these generic categories and find 100s and 100s of candidates with these data points. We could talk about the dozens of candidates with stats less than yours that got in and dozens with better stats that did not get in. What we do not know: competition in your area, your school profile, your LORs, your teacher evals, your BGO interview, your CFA scores. These are the intangibles that none of us know and what would make you stand out amongst other qualified candidates. USNA does not select on data points alone, they look at the whole candidate. Have you put your best application forward? If the answer is yes, then at this point, solidify your alternate plans, keep working out, say your prayers (if that is something you do), hope for the best. Good luck.
 
glj104 said:
It honestly depends on your specific slate.
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^^^ This

It really does come down to who you go up against in your district. How big is it? Does your congressperson rank his/ her slate? If they do then USNA will most likely take the top person regardless assuming they are 3q. I think my DS got fairly lucky that he "only" had to go up against something like a dozen applicants that wanted USNA as their first choice in our district. If you are stronger than most of them (and it sounds like you may be), you may be really going up against 5 or 6 candidates, and those are pretty good odds. Noms from a Senator are great if they don't rank their slate, but are you in the top 2 in your state if they do? A bit harder. Your stats are great, and I am sure you will commission regardless.
 
Much has been written about “competitive” districts. Certainly there are many: Northern Virginia, NY/NJ, much of North Carolina, Georgia and Texas. But it’s important to remember that it only takes one candidate with credentials greater than yours to make your district competitive. Given that each MOC has typically one “open” spot per year per SA, just one superior candidate is all it takes to make your district competitive.

In the end, there’s nothing you can do about your district: You live where you live, your competition is your competition. Focus on what you control and let the rest take care of itself.
 
Everything already said...hopefully you get that the pieces that aren’t your resume are so very, very important to an appointment offer. The intangibles pointed out already.

Something to keep in mind, is also that your package, therefore, can can be more/less competitive next time. You would have a bump of having a year of proven college under your belt to add to it ....but you application this year may not be the slate winner, and would be a slate winner a different cycle. You just never know how you fit within your slate of candidates, assuming you received a nomination and are on the slate.

+1 to everyone else. And the realization that your competitiveness can also, therefore, be more or less competitive from year to year. Even with the Exact. Same. Resume. You do your absolute best. It’s all you can do, and no one can even gauge your chances.
 
Looks pretty impressive. In your essay, try to find a uniqueness about yourself that the review board hasn't seen 100's of times. For instance, our son had his own cow herd that he managed & financed. He had responsibilities with that after school, after ball practice and every weekend.
 
navydad17 said:
Looks pretty impressive. In your essay, try to find a uniqueness about yourself that the review board hasn't seen 100's of times. For instance, our son had his own cow herd that he managed & financed. He had responsibilities with that after school, after ball practice and every weekend.
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Great example of a "unique story"!
 
cbv15 said:
I have recieved congressional nomination for ohio, I am almost done with my application to USNA but was just wondering how I am looking.
I have a
  1. 4.2 gpa
  2. 5 on AP bio
  3. 5 on AP Gov
  4. currently in 4 AP classes
  5. 11 time varsity athlete
  6. 2 time xc captain
  7. 1 time swim team captain
  8. 2 time xc regional qualifier
  9. 1 time swim district qualifier
  10. 34 ACT
  11. selected for boys state(cancelled due to covid)
  12. National honor society member
  13. various other club memberships
  14. youth group leader
Also any advice on my admissions essay? Thanks.
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make your essay unique to you - if you read it and say to yourself how many others could write the same thing and the answer is more than 1 then try again........you can do it!!! your resume is very strong!!! Good luck!
 
Do admission boards review and issue appointments for candidates by state or on an individual basis?
 
Usually, they review by MOC slate. They select a "winner" of each slate (the most qualified candidate on the slate) and the others then go to the National Pool. Keep in mind that, as a general rule, candidates compete among those on their MOC slate(s). However, factored into that are candidates with other nom sources, such as Presidential, or child of disabled vet. Thus, if the slate "winner" also has a Pres nom, USNA has to decide against which source to charge that appointee (MOC or President). That's how multiple candidates from the same slate can receive appointments.

Note the above is a very generalized summary of the process. In reality, it's more complex.
 
usna1985 said:
Usually, they review by MOC slate. They select a "winner" of each slate (the most qualified candidate on the slate) and the others then go to the National Pool. Keep in mind that, as a general rule, candidates compete among those on their MOC slate(s). However, factored into that are candidates with other nom sources, such as Presidential, or child of disabled vet. Thus, if the slate "winner" also has a Pres nom, USNA has to decide against which source to charge that appointee (MOC or President). That's how multiple candidates from the same slate can receive appointments.

Note the above is a very generalized summary of the process. In reality, it's more complex.
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Also ...

It is a continuous (Nov thru June waitlist) Scoring, Sorting, and Offer-of-Appointment optimization model.

It is Not a Batch Mode (e.g, EA/ED, Regular Decision Jan 15, etc) model.
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