China Publishes Paper on Hypothetical Attack on America

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  1. Chockstock

    Chockstock "Forever One Team"

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/21/world/asia/21grid.html?ref=world

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    These kinds of news articles makes me feel even more hostile to a country that is supposedly supposed to be working with us to overcome global warming and the global financial crisis. Im pretty offended by this and view it as a direct threat against our country. This and the numerous hacking attempts into our digital information in cyberspace, the most recent involving Google last month. Why China would even let a paper like this baffles me and like I said, the only way I can see this is as an open threat against the US.

    The only good thing that would come out of this is that our men and women working in national defense would (or should) doublecheck to make sure the pinpointed weak spots in our country are covered.
     
  2. Bullet

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    Interesting article, chockstock.

    But rather than get all excited and upset by the fact that China has the audacity to actually make theoretical plans to attack us in ways that would hurt us, you should be saying "so what?".

    Yeah, it can kind of get you angry and frustrated with China's actions. We're supposed to be working for common solutions on a lot of things. But remember, we view them as potential enemies, just like they view us as the same. And if you think we haven't already studied them to the Nth degree, trying to discover THEIR weaknesses in order to possibly exploit them in a confrontation? Well, sorry to burst your bubble, but we are just as guilty as them when it comes to "knowing thy enemy" (perhaps not as brazen about it as to actually publish our plans in a science article. Geesh!). It's just the smart thing to do, and assuming your enemy is dumber than you usually just leads to a nasty shock when you discover the foolishness of your arrogance.

    BTW, China knows we plan for possible attacks against THEM as well.

    Welcome to the 21st reality; either we feel it is worth it to get into a whole new Cold War with them, or we decide it's just not worth it. There ARE some strategic issues I believe we'd actually go toe-to-toe with them over, but they haven't reached the levels yet that would require us to make the Pacific Rim America's new "Armed Fortress" like we did in Europe for 40+ years.
     
  3. Maximus

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    I too wonder why the Chinese allow articles like that to get out. Anti-Chinese sentiment is starting to permeate around the Country as we dip more into resession and watch our core businesses ship over to China. Maybe there is ulterior motive afoot?

    BTW, China is not working with us on a Global Warming solution, they want us to commit to things like cap and tax or the Kyoto treaty which will destroy our economy while they go unfettered as the worlds largest polluter. They are also helping the US Financial crisis by flooding our market with cheap crap while they cap their yen suppressing the dollar.
     
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    This is the real news and question...it's been known for sometime that China doesn't like us even though we trade with them, and, as has been said, nations in any kind of tension with each other for anything set up hypothetical plans of attack on both sides. This is just a fact of warfare and strategy.
     
  5. Maximus

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    I realize China doesn't like us and they know we don't trust them but, to rattle the cage this blatantly doesn't make sense....on the surface. I'm sure there's more to it.
     
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    Read "One Second After" for a take on a variant of this idea....
     
  7. Chockstock

    Chockstock "Forever One Team"

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    I admire your level-headedness in the face of something of chief concern to American national security. If thats what the academies train young men and women to do, I'm more than grateful and happy to be extended an opportunity to attend an SA!

    I agree and understand why any rival states or enemy states would carefully scrutinize each other. What simply got under my skin was the fact that China would have the audacity to allow something like this to publish. Like you said, we can definitely bet America studies China as closely as they do us, but I don't recall whenever the US disclosed information like this that is clearly meant to agitate and annoy the other.

    Point being, China's act is poisonous to our "frenemy" relationship we have with them. As I mentioned before, when the planet faces problems of epic proportions, this is clearly the wrong direction to be taking as one of the twin engines of the world.
     
  8. osdad

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    Rather than get all worked up over an academic paper, for sure ask what counter measures are being implemented to preclude such an attack. But we also need to address the 1000's of miles of unprotected electrical lines that spiderweb across this country - that are vulnerable to any idiot with access to dynamite.

    Risk is probability times consequence.
     
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    USNA has a Chinese Major and I think they may recognize the future problem.
     
  10. Bullet

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    Your right, we don't post theoretical articles about how to fight them. We DO however sell a LOT of military hardware to Taiwan.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6100C720100201

    You'd have to wonder, what we would think if they declared Puerto Rico (pretty much our undeclared 51st state) under their protection and started selling them massive amounts of firepower? It's not exactly that, but that is how they view it.

    Old saying: it takes two to tango. We've being dancing back and forth with them for a while now. You don't really think we keep all those forces in Korea and Japan tp protect Korea, do you?

    Not that I agree or support China in its actions. But I do understand that EVERYTHING we do on the international stage has intentions and consequences. Something you will learn as you progress as a leader and officer. The unfortunate thing about being a military officer is we don't MAKE those international policies or decisions. We are there to deal with the consequences.

    Reminds me of another old saying: "Ours is not to reason why. Ours is just to do and die..."

    But it doesn't stop you from giving those who make the decisions honest and sound advise about those decisions BEFORE you have to deal with the consequences. Some of you may actually have the opportunity to do that in your career. THAT is why you always need to see and study all sides of an issue....
     

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