Class 2028 Waitlist
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I was only able to catch the last 5 minutes (time zone mix up). I would also appreciate it if someone could summarize the main points that were covered.
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Capt Fredie opened the meeting tonight stating specifically that waitlisted applicants for the Class of ‘28 will be authorized to apply EA for the Class of ‘29.
In addition to what’s mentioned above, on the call, they said candidates on the waitlist will be waiting until at least May 1, most likely, and could be as late as June 15. As they have candidates decline their appointments by the May 1 deadline, that will open up a certain amount of spots to be filled. They will fill the spots by what needs they have. There is no rank order on the waitlist.
They also suggested moving forward with your Plan B option, such as putting a deposit down, which may not be refundable, but that way the candidate still has another viable option, because there is no way of knowing how many candidates will be taken from the waitlist.
They also suggested moving forward with your Plan B option, such as putting a deposit down, which may not be refundable, but that way the candidate still has another viable option, because there is no way of knowing how many candidates will be taken from the waitlist.
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Thank you.
Did Capt Freddie provide any statistics or counts?
Did Capt Freddie provide any statistics or counts?
Thank you! I appreciate you sharing this. Best wishes.
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No, as there are too many variables year-to-year to provide any relevant statistical analysis.
Roughly 2000 applicants for 285 seats in the class.
Did they mention how many waitlist sports they gave out this year? And how many CGAS waitlist spots?
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Didn’t pay attention to CGAS questions as my son isn’t on the CGAS or prep school path due to his Plan B already set in motion (NROTC NSI Block 2 boat space already secured).
I believe 85
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I'm not sure if this is how it is every year, but this year CGA allowed applicants who were waitlisted the previous cycle to re-apply in EA. I couldn't apply in EA because I was just outright rejected last year so I had to apply RA.
That being said, every single prep applicant I know that applied EA was bumped to RA anyways. Whether it was because CGA wanted to see how their first semester transcript at the prep school turned out or because there was something missing from their application, none of the re-applicants I know got a decision in EA. Some got in during RA and some got waitlisted.
The yield rate looks like about 80%. I expect the final yield rate is lower. Don’t give up!
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Couple of random thoughts on the waitlist:
-USCG is short members overall and in a bit of a recruiting crisis like the other armed services, they need folks.
-Retention numbers have fallen slightly mainly due to the good economy and plenty of civilian opportunities, again they need folks. Not sure what the retention rate of USCGA grads is at the 5 year mark, but they do have many options in the current economy.
-First year of a new Superintendent so he could see things differently with regard to waitlist and yield, unknown variable.
-There are always some DORs (Drop on Request) during swab summer and some injuries that cannot be rehabbed in time so they expect loses to the class - how they compensate for that is a balancing act. Some still pending DOBMER medical waivers will be denied and that will create a few slots if they want to fill them.
-I hear they don't rank the waitlist, but look for certain missing parts so to speak. For example, if they are low Electrical Engineering majors, they may go to those kids first. Or it they have no one yet from the Dakotas, and there is one on the waitlist, that may be the ticket. No one really knows.
-I don't think athletics will be much of a differentiator, they have had their pick of athletes from EA and RA, plus they already have current rising 3/c, 2/c, and 1/c to fill the teams. My guess is if they had to have you for their team, you would have been admitted in EA or RA.
-When you talk to some Ensigns, they say some of the large cutters WMSL are almost over-staffed. While others on medium and small boats are under-staffed. There were very few land jobs this year, and flight stayed about the same at billet night meaning the fleet needs afloat still drive the staffing and recruiting.
-Kids change their mind, and do so quickly and often. What seemed like the perfect college in October may be different in April. Someone may fall in love at Senior Prom. Just on probability alone, some of the current admitted kids will drop USCGA and choose other schools.
Finally, from USCGAs side of this, they have a target number in total admits, majors admitted, etc., the waitlist gives them a small group of qualified applicants to pick from at will to fill a need. As time runs short, it is reasonable to assume if they pull from the wait list they will look for kids on the waitlist who are 100% ready to go as they don't have time for extended medical opinions or back and forth with doctors on waivers or for kids to get in shape for Swab summer that submitted a low PFE score, etc. If you have a better PFE score or recently got a medical waiver approved, I would email that to your AO and make 100% sure they know about it, and they know you are fully qualified and ready to go on short notice.
Good luck!
-USCG is short members overall and in a bit of a recruiting crisis like the other armed services, they need folks.
-Retention numbers have fallen slightly mainly due to the good economy and plenty of civilian opportunities, again they need folks. Not sure what the retention rate of USCGA grads is at the 5 year mark, but they do have many options in the current economy.
-First year of a new Superintendent so he could see things differently with regard to waitlist and yield, unknown variable.
-There are always some DORs (Drop on Request) during swab summer and some injuries that cannot be rehabbed in time so they expect loses to the class - how they compensate for that is a balancing act. Some still pending DOBMER medical waivers will be denied and that will create a few slots if they want to fill them.
-I hear they don't rank the waitlist, but look for certain missing parts so to speak. For example, if they are low Electrical Engineering majors, they may go to those kids first. Or it they have no one yet from the Dakotas, and there is one on the waitlist, that may be the ticket. No one really knows.
-I don't think athletics will be much of a differentiator, they have had their pick of athletes from EA and RA, plus they already have current rising 3/c, 2/c, and 1/c to fill the teams. My guess is if they had to have you for their team, you would have been admitted in EA or RA.
-When you talk to some Ensigns, they say some of the large cutters WMSL are almost over-staffed. While others on medium and small boats are under-staffed. There were very few land jobs this year, and flight stayed about the same at billet night meaning the fleet needs afloat still drive the staffing and recruiting.
-Kids change their mind, and do so quickly and often. What seemed like the perfect college in October may be different in April. Someone may fall in love at Senior Prom. Just on probability alone, some of the current admitted kids will drop USCGA and choose other schools.
Finally, from USCGAs side of this, they have a target number in total admits, majors admitted, etc., the waitlist gives them a small group of qualified applicants to pick from at will to fill a need. As time runs short, it is reasonable to assume if they pull from the wait list they will look for kids on the waitlist who are 100% ready to go as they don't have time for extended medical opinions or back and forth with doctors on waivers or for kids to get in shape for Swab summer that submitted a low PFE score, etc. If you have a better PFE score or recently got a medical waiver approved, I would email that to your AO and make 100% sure they know about it, and they know you are fully qualified and ready to go on short notice.
Good luck!
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Not sure what you mean by RA list? RA appointees have been notified throughout the last month or so. The summary of the class (number of applicants, number of appointments, demographics, etc.) is usually provided to the incoming swab families at Day 1.
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There’s not really a list. Kids are getting notified for full appointments, CGAS appointments, waitlist and rejections simultaneously. What people communicate on this forum is a relatively small subset of all those things.
Thanks 27BearDad, it makes me feel that is I still have a chance for CSPI. Still not hear back from recruiter or email. Congrats to all to class 2028. I hope someone trying for CSPI has any news of when they will release or send out the results.
What is CSPI?