Class of 2015 - Mailbox Stalkers Club

Yes, the major is looked at TWA.

Contact the det and inform them of this decision. I would do it now in the spring, and in person.

There is a reason why. Some dets are huge with 200-300 cadets. This informs them now, not in mid-Sept when they ask for the ROTC nom. They will write a rec for that nom, in large dets, CC's rarely can place a name with a face 2 weeks in. Your child needs that connection. Hard to write a great rec if they are blind sided in mid-Sept and it is due by Oct 1.

If you contact them now, they will be aware of your child, and will be able to give a stronger rec. Double edge sword here, make sure they shine. That means batting their PFA out of the ball park, a 88 PFA will not due, 97+ is where you want them to be. Use the summer to train.

Additionally the reason why to inform them now, is that the CC also will be looking at C200 and 300's for SFT and AFSC. It is not as if once you get there you never meet another ROTC board. You do! You meet it as a C200 for SFT. You meet it as a 300 for AFSC. The CC also may have cadets trying for IS scholarships, that also require recs. This is on top of selecting cadets for jobs within the det., and semester reviews/counseling which is a part of their file for the SFT and AFSC.

As you can see, even if your DS was the only cadet asking for an ROTC nom to the AFA, they have many, many more recs to write regarding other cadets. Everyone of those cadets get signed off by a commander. The commander also meets with the POC Cadet Commander in the review process. Start the multiplication process of 200, and you can see it is A LOT of paperwork for a Commander.

Again, the CC will appreciate knowing that he will be needing him for support come next yr now, compared to mid-Sept.
 
Pima, what I meant to say is....the college he will be entering for the first time this fall has ROTC and I was asking if he should ask to join or not, since he will have heavy class load and and his GPA is not 4.0. Will being a member of ROTC or not be a major factor in being considered for USAFA, or will they be more interested in his grades. If he does join the ROTC, he would definitely tell them up front he has reapplied for the Academy this year.

PS - the Admissions Office told him 30% of the incoming USAFA class traditionally are students already in post high school college, so that is good news.
 
Tailwind Angel said:
My understanding from the USAFA counselor is YES, it is looked on very favorably if you reapply the 2nd time. It shows determination, perserverance (sp?) and a true desire to attend the academy. My son is definitely reapplying after his recent TWE (qualified but no more slots).

I have a question.............the college is thinking of attending as Plan B has ROTC. He is going to have a heavy engineering class load. Is ROTC a major factor in looking at the candidate, or are the grades more important? Advice?
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I can't speak from an admissions standpoint, but what I can say is it will give you a good idea of what's coming, and I can imagine it will give you a slight upper hand at least the first few weeks (I already know how uniforms work, marching, general customs and courtesies), and it will give you a general idea of whether or not this is something you want to do.

Grades are ALWAYS more important, but if he'd have difficulty managing ROTC and classes...well the academy won't be any easier...:rolleyes:
 
Great info Pima and thanks! We had planned on checking in now with the CC via email, but after reading your post I think it might be best to call and schedule a meeting in person. Could you give me a link for some of the nomenclature? I'm up to speed on academies, but not ROTC. (i.e. SFT & AFSC)
 
Joining ROTC allows him the ability to compete for another nom...ROTC.

Re: engineering, and your child, my question is did he apply for AFROTC scholarship?

If not why? If so did he get one?

The AFA loves repeat candidates, statistically they actually have a higher % of acceptance than the hs candidate.

I am with ima-gina-tion.

He has yet to actually experience ROTC. Sorry, and no offense, but JROTC is not on the level of ROTC at college.

Being in ROTC in college is a time management issue. ROTC gets his feet wet, and probably just the toes compared to the AFA.

People tend to forget that the AFA is an engineering college on par with Ivies, plus they have it harder than any ROTC cadet.

AFA to ROTC is like ROTC to JROTC. Big difference.

You may believe that it is a hard engineering course load, but have you looked at the AFA C4C required classes? On top of their course load, they also have to sit at attention during meals, reciting menus and current events. ROTC doesn't require that, and if you fear the engineering program is too tough combined with ROTC, than ima-gina-tion is correct, the AFA won't be easier.
 
Jonana said:
Well, it was a TWE for my DS. Science-reasoning scores not competitive enough. So, our sincere congrats to everyone. May God bless your path and strengthen your heart to Him. We will be going for it again!
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Well, if the score wasn't high enough, that means that you are in the running for one of the prep schools! Keep your eyes out for that! =D
 
jwalsh1 said:
Well, if the score wasn't high enough, that means that you are in the running for one of the prep schools! Keep your eyes out for that! =D
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To be considered for one of the prep schools, do you have to fill out the Falcon Scholarship app? Is it to late to do that? Will they send out USAFA Prep letters out later?
 
GiuseppeVerde said:
To be considered for one of the prep schools, do you have to fill out the Falcon Scholarship app? Is it to late to do that? Will they send out USAFA Prep letters out later?
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My understanding is that you are automatically considered for Prep or Falcon. There is no additional app. The selections are made by admissions.
 
GiuseppeVerde said:
To be considered for one of the prep schools, do you have to fill out the Falcon Scholarship app? Is it to late to do that? Will they send out USAFA Prep letters out later?
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I'm not going to pretend to know the answers to those questions. My application process, being on active duty status, was quite different from yours. :confused:
 
Ok I see. Thanks for the info.. I hope I get one of those, still praying... There haven't been too many NY appts at all on the forum- maybe I still have a chance...
 
You are new to the forum, so I will say it. You don't apply for Falcon or prep. They decide who gets it. The traditional recipient has a low SAT/ACT and a strong gpa.

It is a unique candidate. Poor CFA won't get you that opportunity. No EC will not get you that opportunity.

This exists from an academic perspective to get them on par with incoming cadets.

You will not see a 2100 SAT candidate with a 3.7 gpa offered prep. It was not created to be the runner up for AFA candidates from their WCS. In other words if this yr 1150 are offered apptmts., the cadet that was scored as 1151 may not be offered prep.

It really is 2 separate issues. Jwalsh saying that if the WCS wasn't high enough and it places you in the prep is incorrect. Again, prep is really for the PAR issue of the WCS.
 
Pima said:
You are new to the forum, so I will say it. You don't apply for Falcon or prep. They decide who gets it. The traditional recipient has a low SAT/ACT and a strong gpa.

It is a unique candidate. Poor CFA won't get you that opportunity. No EC will not get you that opportunity.

This exists from an academic perspective to get them on par with incoming cadets.

You will not see a 2100 SAT candidate with a 3.7 gpa offered prep. It was not created to be the runner up for AFA candidates from their WCS. In other words if this yr 1150 are offered apptmts., the cadet that was scored as 1151 may not be offered prep.

It really is 2 separate issues. Jwalsh saying that if the WCS wasn't high enough and it places you in the prep is incorrect. Again, prep is really for the PAR issue of the WCS.
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That is where I stand I think.. I have a 1790 overall SAT and a 3.6 GPA. My CFA is great and I have a ton of EC'S, including volunteer work as well as other programs outside of school, not to mention work experience...
 
AL Appointments

Greetings again. I'm from AL-05 despite what my name implies. I stopped by Rep Brooks office in Huntsville today and inquired about appointments from his district. Rep. Parker Griffith would have nominated these students.

The very helpful lady told me Rep. Brooks made four phone calls for AFA appointments off of the slate of Rep. Griffith. Apparently none of these appointees have posted their names in the 2015 appointment thread.

Germanican Kid - I know you were wondering about this. Sorry to be the bearer of disappointing news, but, if it is any consolation, my child is in the same boat.
 
Pima said:
You are new to the forum, so I will say it. You don't apply for Falcon or prep. They decide who gets it. The traditional recipient has a low SAT/ACT and a strong gpa.

It is a unique candidate. Poor CFA won't get you that opportunity. No EC will not get you that opportunity.

This exists from an academic perspective to get them on par with incoming cadets.

You will not see a 2100 SAT candidate with a 3.7 gpa offered prep. It was not created to be the runner up for AFA candidates from their WCS. In other words if this yr 1150 are offered apptmts., the cadet that was scored as 1151 may not be offered prep.

It really is 2 separate issues. Jwalsh saying that if the WCS wasn't high enough and it places you in the prep is incorrect. Again, prep is really for the PAR issue of the WCS.
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When I said they were in the running for prep school, I said that based off the comment of "Science-reasoning scores not competitive enough." The test scores were low, therefore they should be a candidate for the prep. Sorry if my wording in my comment was ambiguous, but I did include the quote.
 
giuseppeverde said:
I have a 1790 overall SAT and a 3.6 GPA.
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Rude, but here's my question with a 1790 would you have applied to Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Princeton, Penn, MIT (HYSSPM)?

Did you research the AFA to see their selection rate is on par with them?

Were you hoping for the Prep or Foundation scholarship and not a direct AFA admit?

I hope candidates for 16 understand the AFA is:
1. An engineering school
2. Avg SAT for M/V are close to 1400.
 
AFAApplicant said:
Your welcome Vamom. I would say the same for myself as well. I anticipate finishing my new application before summer is over. Hopefully your DS and I will be attending USAFA as a part of the class of 2016 :)
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And hopefully my DD will be joining you both! Yes, I get to do this yet again, 3rd year in a row. DS is at USNA, VVCFF will be at USAFA...hopefully DD will be fortuneate enough to end up and one or the other!

My heart goes out to the recent TWE families, but I'm so proud of all these kids and I'm looking foward to seeing how their future progresses, so I'm happy ya'll will be sticking around the forum this year!

This thread is Made of Win :thumb:
 
Mom of USAFA Candidate 2015

Good morning all! I just checked our mailbox and NO BFE, NO TWE, nothing nada zip... We are in Southern California and I am just wondering what is taking so long!!! Did anyone else from So. Cal hear?!

Anyway, no call from the MOC, no change in the status online (Candidate, Complete), same old same-o... And the praying and waiting continues, I hope not for much longer!:confused:

Also, DS called the counselor at USAFA yesterday and all she said was to wait for the mail for him. She did not want to give him any information, just to wait for it in the mail...:confused:

Does this mean that he is in the "qualified but no vacancy" group?:frown:

To Tailwind Angel and VAMOM, you guys inspire me every day!!! Thank you for all your posts!:thumb::yllol::shake::shake:
 
Prep vs. college applicants

Not sure if this has been discussed yet -
Is a prep school applicant more likely to get an appointment than a regular college applicant?

My DS wouldn't qualify for prep school - GPA & test scores are too high. I understand that both preps & college applicants have a better chance at an appointment than high school applicants since it shows a more mature commitment to serving in the military, however, just wondering if the prep school has an 'in' with the academy that a regular college applicant wouldn't have.

Flieger, CC, Pima - can you weigh in on this please?

Thank you!
 
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