College Dilemma

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  1. jimbob

    jimbob Member

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    I got a TWE last year. And everything is complete now for a month or so. My college schedule is as follows...

    Calculus 1
    Chemistry 1
    American Government
    College Compostion
    Military Science and Leadership

    Totaling to 18 credit hours. I play ice hockey competitively (7 days a week) and was an ice hockey recruit. I'm not sure if I should stay in this classes or drop one...

    Thanks! :biggrin:
     
  2. usna1985

    usna1985 USNA Alumnus

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    Schedule looks good. Do your very best to get As in Calc and Chem. Your ECAs, sports, etc. are not nearly as important as your grades in those courses.

    You COULD drop one class. However, as a plebe at USNA you'll take 16/17 hours per semester with all of the military duties. Thus, 18 hrs at a civilian college isn't exactly overload. If you can handle it, I'd stick with what you have.
     
  3. catie2012

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    Also just a question, you were an ice hockey recruit but didn't get in?? Do not all recruited athletes get in?

    Good luck for 2016!
     
  4. usna1985

    usna1985 USNA Alumnus

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    Short answer: No.
     
  5. jimbob

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    Not when ice hockey is a CLUB :mad: playing junior ice hockey along with college now! :shake:
     
  6. catie2012

    catie2012 New Member

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    Ahhh gotchya jim. That's awesome though, keep up the hard work!! usna1985, what are some reasons why recruits wouldn't get in? Not passing medical or not getting a nom? I'm a recruited crew athlete so that's why I'm wondering haha. thank you!
     
  7. wiscyellowjacket

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    This kind of mindset is what makes some varsity athletes not as popular among their peers here. Just becasue you are a varsity athlete does NOT make you special or above a normal MIDN. :thumbdown: Do not expect preferential treatment as a plebe just because you can row.
     
  8. Whistle Pig

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    au contraire ... while none of it is a cake walk, many teams w/ recruited athletes do receive differentiation, often noted and resented by the mass of the Brigade. And while many, likely most, do not reflect the elitism and arrogance suggested here and exhibited on most campuses, many of those strive and succeed in overcoming the collective negative stygma nurtured by a relative few. When practice and the games are over, they must return to their Company.

    Some fail to get in because they are deemed either unable or unwilling to compete in the bigger game of academics and commissioning. Others fail to pass muster because they can't pass muster. Some never get 3Qed, despite handicapping, and others not a nomination. Many are medically DQed or fail to pass the CFA. Ask why some many non-recruited athletes fail to gain an offer of appointment and the myriad of answers will give you yours.

    btw, do you think there are not recruited athletes, many, who fail to be admitted to Penn State or Texas or Alabama or Miami? Well, ok, maybe not Alabama and Miami. They might be a mighty stretch ...
     
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  9. usna1985

    usna1985 USNA Alumnus

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    Lots of reasons. The main one is that there lots of non-recruited athletes who are better qualified than recruited athletes.

    I'm not naive enough to believe that being a recruited athlete makes no difference in the admissions process. However, other factors also make a difference -- great grades, leadership, SATs, ECAs, CFA scores, strong recommendations, etc. That's why it's a Whole Person Multiple.

    Almost everyone at USNA is an athlete. And there are lots of recruited athletes among the candidates. There just aren't spots for all of them. I personally have had more than one recruited athlete (with other great qualifications) be turned down.

    One request . . . please let's not turn this legitimate question into a debate on whether recruited athletes are more or less "qualified" than non-recruits. Such a debate only serves to inflame passions and never turns out to be productive.
     
  10. wiscyellowjacket

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    What I mean is that they are still held to the same standards (rooms, proknowledge, and academics) as a normal mid. The varsity athletes in my company have to work more efficiently with time management to stay on top of everything. :thumb: And yes, they do have more "perks" than i have, but they also are away from the company alot and that shows in other catagories like rankings etc.
     
  11. Northstream

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    Recruiting

    Also remember, once they are in, some athletes choose to give up varsity sports, there is no scholarship to lose. Youngsters have matured and sometimes
    re-prioritize.
     
  12. Whistle Pig

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    Can you expand on this? Not sure of the point you're attempting to make?
     
  13. usna1985

    usna1985 USNA Alumnus

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    In my day, some recruited athletes decided after their first, or second, or third year that they no longer wanted to participate in varsity sports. They wanted more time for sports, wanted more free time, etc.

    I wouldn't say this was a huge number but it also wasn't uncommon.
     
  14. Northstream

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    Selection Order

    Some mids forgo continued varsity participation to pursue a higher class rank. They may feel varsity sports impinges on their GPA and company participation. There are only 24 hours in a day, time is very scarce for a mid. Almost all graduate, who can say how many missed a flight slot because they did not have enough study time to get the GPA they needed?

    I have talked to several grads who have 2nd thoughts about the time spent and the benefits gained from varsity level sports. USNA does not offer sports scholarships, mids can quit baseball, football, ect , and continue on to a great,perhaps better, navy career. Balance and prioritization of long term goals are the key. IMO:thumb:
     
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    usna1985 USNA Alumnus

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    Conversely, many varsity athletes finish among the top graduates. It's a balance of available time, sports, academics, ECAs, and other things on which you want to spend time. Each mid must decide for him/herself based on his/her personal situation.

    I saw a number of varsity athletes give up the sport 1/C year. Some did so b/c of the toll of injuries. Some wanted their WEs free. Some lost interest in the sport. And, of course, many continued for all four years.
     
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    differentiation??
     

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