Competitve Nomination

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Do people that are awarded a competitive nomination tend to receive appointments later than others due to the academy having to actually pick from the 10 or so candidate slate? I would assume they would start by accepting people with LOAs and principal nominations then work there way to picking from candidate slates. Thank you
 
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Do people that are awarded a competitive nomination tend to receive appointments later than others due to the academy having to actually pick from the 10 or so candidate slate? I would assume they would start by accepting people with LOAs and principal nominations then work there way to picking from candidate slates. Thank you
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The early-cycle LOAs tend to have conditions, such as completing DoDMERB successfully, obtaining a nom, passing CFA. They can receive their offers of appointment at any time in the cycle.

DoDMERB issues can be active well into the spring and even run close to report dates. That can hold things up.

If you look at the appointment threads, past and present, you can see the general trends relating to types of noms. Feb-Mar, the slates start resolving, and there are a pile of them. Don’t forget the SA can go back and choose other fully qualified applicants off a slate, and those appointments are charged to nom authorities they manage, not the MOC.

Principal nominees still have to be fully qualified. Now multiply that by all the slates that might have used the principal nominee method.

College re-applicants start showing up, as their first semester performance is evaluated. SA prep schools and scholarship prep schools start appearing in the spring.

And yes, while the service-connected noms are not in and of themselves competitive, as everyone who is eligible, is given one, there is fierce competition for the limited number of appointments that can be charged to, say, the JROTC/ROTC nom. That is a national competition among everyone who applied with that nom - likely to be more than 9 other people. They must also of course be fully qualified. On a MOC slate of 10, assuming all 10 are fully qualified (medical/DoDMERB, physical/CFA, academic/all other evaluated factors), one candidate’s appointment will be charged to the elected official. Others may receive offers of appointment as noted above or also have earned other noms and may receive an offer based on one of those.

I posted a photo the other day of a Star Trek 3D chess set. Class-building proceeds in a dynamic matrix fashion rather than linear, in a very unique and organic pattern, each year. There is no way of predicting whether a certain type of appointment will appear early in the cycle, or later, and regardless of when the candidate submitted their application. There are general trends but plenty of outliers.
 
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Capt. MJ,

May I please receive your guidance on this?

On 01 Feb, Senator Ben Cardin wrote to me and said this:

I have been informed by Representative Anthony Brown that you received a nomination from him. Congratulations on your success.

Competition for a nomination to a service academy is intense. This year I received over 450 applications and am limited to 10 per academy. You were an excellent candidate and were also chosen by my Academy Review Board to receive a nomination, however, because you have already received one and only one is required for consideration for admission, I have deferred to Representative Anthony Brown.

You should hear from the U.S. Naval Academy shortly regarding your nomination. Please remember that offers of appointment are only made by the academy.

Is the Naval Academy supposed to be notified that I would have received another nomination if it weren't for House of Rep. Anthony Brown's nom? I would only assume so since he states that I should hear from the Academy itself. Also, is it true that most applicants in Maryland can only receive one congressional nomination since it is so competitive?
 
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The Naval Academy is notified of nominations. Not people who they would have been nominated. I think he meant you would hear from the Academy about the MOC nomination.
 
It isn’t that Maryland applicants can only receive one nomination…it’s that the Representatives and Senators in Maryland choose to do it that way. The Senators wait until all of the Rep nominations are complete before giving theirs.
 
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Spartan01 said:
Capt. MJ,

May I please receive your guidance on this?

On 01 Feb, Senator Ben Cardin wrote to me and said this:

I have been informed by Representative Anthony Brown that you received a nomination from him. Congratulations on your success.

Competition for a nomination to a service academy is intense. This year I received over 450 applications and am limited to 10 per academy. You were an excellent candidate and were also chosen by my Academy Review Board to receive a nomination, however, because you have already received one and only one is required for consideration for admission, I have deferred to Representative Anthony Brown.

You should hear from the U.S. Naval Academy shortly regarding your nomination. Please remember that offers of appointment are only made by the academy.

Is the Naval Academy supposed to be notified that I would have received another nomination if it weren't for House of Rep. Anthony Brown's nom? I would only assume so since he states that I should hear from the Academy itself. Also, is it true that most applicants in Maryland can only receive one congressional nomination since it is so competitive?
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Same thing happened to me with Senator Schumer
 
Capt MJ said:
The early-cycle LOAs tend to have conditions, such as completing DoDMERB successfully, obtaining a nom, passing CFA. They can receive their offers of appointment at any time in the cycle.

DoDMERB issues can be active well into the spring and even run close to report dates. That can hold things up.

If you look at the appointment threads, past and present, you can see the general trends relating to types of noms. Feb-Mar, the slates start resolving, and there are a pile of them. Don’t forget the SA can go back and choose other fully qualified applicants off a slate, and those appointments are charged to nom authorities they manage, not the MOC.

Principal nominees still have to be fully qualified. Now multiply that by all the slates that might have used the principal nominee method.

College re-applicants start showing up, as their first semester performance is evaluated. SA prep schools and scholarship prep schools start appearing in the spring.

And yes, while the service-connected noms are not in and of themselves competitive, as everyone who is eligible, is given one, there is fierce competition for the limited number of appointments that can be charged to, say, the JROTC/ROTC nom. That is a national competition among everyone who applied with that nom - likely to be more than 9 other people. They must also of course be fully qualified. On a MOC slate of 10, assuming all 10 are fully qualified (medical/DoDMERB, physical/CFA, academic/all other evaluated factors), one candidate’s appointment will be charged to the elected official. Others may receive offers of appointment as noted above or also have earned other noms and may receive an offer based on one of those.

I posted a photo the other day of a Star Trek 3D chess set. Class-building proceeds in a dynamic matrix fashion rather than linear, in a very unique and organic pattern, each year. There is no way of predicting whether a certain type of appointment will appear early in the cycle, or later, and regardless of when the candidate submitted their application. There are general trends but plenty of outliers.
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Thank you for this in-depth answer!!
 
BigJake2000 said:
It isn’t that Maryland applicants can only receive one nomination…it’s that the Representatives and Senators in Maryland choose to do it that way. The Senators wait until all of the Rep nominations are complete before giving theirs.
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My DD received same letter from one of our Senators. He deferred to her congressman's nomination. By not double or triple nominating candidates the State can send in more candidates. Clever math. Since congressmen/women are restricted to candidates in their districts but senators are not, by not double/triple nominating the State will have 20 more candidates in the USNA pool.
 
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