Could this impact my chances at an LOA?

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  1. gramal

    gramal Member

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    My file is totally complete, except for the "Academic Information" to be filled out by my guidance counselor (they have my transcripts).

    Does anyone know exactly what this academic information is, and does its absence preclude a candidate from receiving an LOA? What if I got it filled out just before the September 1st LOA date that people on this forum were discussing in another thread?

    Thank you!
     
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  2. USMA2016

    USMA2016 Appointee - Class of 2016

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    I would lean towards yes on this one. You might still be eligible for an LOA since the minimum requirements are class rank, transcripts, and SAT/ACT scores but you might not be competitive for one since the school form probably verifies things and adds points to your WCS. Just a shot in the dark though there. Best bet for you is to just get that form filled out ASAP regardless of whether or not it matters for an LoA!
     
  3. GoArmyBeatNavy

    GoArmyBeatNavy Member

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    Have you read the instruction booklet that is on your portal. I have seen elsewhere here where people say it has good info. I recommend reading that to see what the form is. I believe you need to input a counselor's email and West Point will email the counselor giving them access to an online document to fill out. Not sure though. Good luck.

    I would think a form called "Academic Information" would be important for a conditional offer of admission (which an LOA is) to one of the top colleges in the country, but that might just be my mid-30s brain's craziness :biggrin:
     
  4. hawk

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    From memory, I recall that the academic info form had stats that would be used to weight your class rank, gpa, etc. If you are just waiting on that I'd sure see if you could get your counselor to submit it. It's normally info they have at hand.

    But it could also be validating your EC's or both.
     
  5. me1fan

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    I received a call from a West Point Admissions person and they said that I qualified for an LOA and that all I needed to do was submit my Transcript and make sure it had my class rank, GPA, and classes I took or am going to take. I'm assuming that this is important or else they wouldn't be calling me to turn it in. But regardless of its importance, the faster you get your app done, the faster you'll get to hear from them. Good Luck!
     
  6. USMA2016

    USMA2016 Appointee - Class of 2016

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    Wow, that's great! You must have some stellar standardized test scores or ECs or something!
     
  7. scoutpilot

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    Or here's a thought...forget about an LOA. You will likely not receive one, and they are not that important overall.
     
  8. buff81

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    The 'Request for Academic Information' is the request for your school to send WP your transcripts. Yes - this piece of info is important for LOA consideration. When you say -"they have my transcripts' - who is 'they'.
     
  9. gramal

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    "They" refers to the people in the West Point admissions department.

    There is a separate line where it states that they received my six semesters of high school transcripts, so the guidance counselor information must be something different.
     
  10. hawk

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    I'm pretty sure the guidance counselor form has the core stats about the school which allows admissions to "weight" the individual stats. (But may be confusing this across the academies)

    Things like:
    - school competitiveness (% who go to college, % to ivy league, etc)
    - Class size
    - Demographics
    - Number of AP & Honor's classes offered
    - GPA calculation approach, etc

    This is the norm for admissions to other schools as well for the guidance counselor forms. Without this info your class rank, GPA, and even transcript cannot be fully evaluated.

    Ex: You took 2 AP classes. To understand that, they need to know if the school only offered 2-3, or if they offered 15. Same for class rank, GPA, etc.

    My understanding is that until this info is in, your transcript & GPA is indicative, but cannot fully evaluated. Certainly not to the applicant's advantage if they were at a competitive school, etc.
     
  11. buff81

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    I'm confused then.
    Which part of your portal has a red check that has not turned to green?

    If it is the 'Request For Academic Information' then that is the request for your school to send your transcripts. If underneath that it says, '6 Number of High School Transcripts (semesters) received' then the 'Request for Academic Information' check should be green. Since you say that it says they have received 6 transcripts, then that icon should be green.

    If you are talking about the verification of your ECs by a school official, then that is part of the 'Candidate Activities Record (CAR)'. That section has 2 parts:
    1) you fill out the contact info of the school official that verifies what you say you did
    2) you fill out the form listing your ECs
    If that icon ('Candidate Activities Record (CAR)') is still red, then WP is waiting for that official to send in their verification.
     
  12. br1ankim24

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    The same thing happened to me this past summer. I sent my transcripts in, but my counselor did not fill out the Request for Academic Information. On my portal, it shows that 6 semesters were received, but there was a Red X next to R-A-I. After I reminded my counselor to fill the form out, there was a green checkmark next to it.
     

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